Context: Admiral Patrick replied and included this gem:

And might I add that not one person complained until db0 went internet Karen with his hissy fit because I took his toy away from him.

“Not one person complained about my explicitly obfuscated blacklists! Damn internet Karens making a big deal!”

  • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
    119·
    9 days ago

    Making a blacklist for your frontend is one thing.

    Not telling users about it is an entirely different, more fucked up thing.

    Purposefully disguising block as technical difficulties instead of deliberate blocks is yet another level of different and more fucked up.

    A blacklist that users are informed of and therefore (presumably) consent to when using the software, I could understand. I still don’t entirely agree with it, but I understand.

    But each of the additional levels of fucked-up-ness turn it from understandable to despicable. Absolutely fuck that dev in every which way.

    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      441·
      9 days ago

      And the statement that it wasn’t encrypted, just compressed, is an entirely antagonistic reframing.

      There were multiple block lists. Some right in the open, and one that was stored as a monolithic .dat (I assume the one he called “compressed”).

      The end result is that the second list was obfuscated from not only end-users, but also “admins” hosting it, and developers attempting to work on the project.

      The compression decision only holds if all of the filter lists were compressed and this decision was clearly documented.

      Plus the circumstantial evidence that the “enable toxic mode” option did not in fact disable the filtering that relied on the .dat file.

      I can’t even say that I’m in theory against his openly stated goals of making the fediverse more approachable to normies. But this is not the way to implement it, and it’s not the way to react when called out about it.

      • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
        21·
        9 days ago

        I can’t even say that I’m in theory against his openly stated goals of making the fediverse more approachable to normies.

        If you want something approachable for normies, Facebook is right there.

        IMO, the fediverse should be weird and stay weird. It doesn’t need to grow huge, it doesn’t need to become a normie website or a household name.

        • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          7·
          9 days ago

          I’m more than OK with weird. I love weird. I’m even ok with strong political opinions that I don’t always agree with. I’m fine with Lemmy staying small in the hopes it never ends up becoming an eternal September situation.

          Those aren’t the issue.The problem is the violent rhetoric combined with the intense and constant bad-jacketing. Constant jumping to bad conclusions about other users and arguing against those straw men instead of trying for good faith.

          At least you only jumped to the conclusion that I wanted Lemmy to stop being weird and grow unsustainably popular. I was honestly expecting someone to call me a corporate stooge or that I’m just a butthurt MAGA chud upset that Lemmy leans left-wing, then tell me to kill myself.

          • Barbarian@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            5·
            9 days ago

            I was honestly expecting someone to call me a corporate stooge or that I’m just a butthurt MAGA chud upset that Lemmy leans left-wing, then tell me to kill myself.

            Well, I don’t want you to feel disappointed, so here goes: you’re a person who likes money and you’re just upset that my virtue signalling is of higher fidelity! You should go get a coin and put it on your shoulder, so you get alarmed by the sudden clattering when you forget it’s there and it hits the floor!

            Is that enough vitriol for you?

    • fartographer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      8 days ago

      Yeah, but seeing myself on line 1208 of the super-secret banned list made me feel far more dangerous and badass than I deserve. I feel like I’m barely a decent person, but I’m still working on it; apparently, that makes me a radical.

  • bdonvr@thelemmy.clubEnglish
    86·
    9 days ago

    not one person complained until db0 went internet Karen with his hissy fit because I took his toy away from him.

    Lmao because nobody knew until db0 pointed it out. Do you really think the community at large would’ve taken it well if they had known?

    I don’t mean this ironically but this person needs to touch grass. Go offline. Disengage.

  • Tippy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    861·
    9 days ago

    Admiral used Blahaj as an example of a “terrorist” instance in their rant.

    This confirms they are just another garden variety fascist trying to sanitize the world around them because they’re too fragile to adapt, and in their psychosis they think everyone else will support their obviously broken mindset.

    Yo admiral fash, if you’re here with us go ahead and add me to your walmart brand palantir system. I stand with LGBTQIA, and rest assured I’d have some violence for you for silencing their voices.

  • aGlassDarkly@piefed.zipEnglish
    66·
    9 days ago

    This has been hands-down some of the best drama I’ve seen on the Fediverse. I assume there’s some sick part of my brain that just loves it when someone doubles down on a bad decision.

  • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    54·
    9 days ago

    If all that talk of “tesseract is more than a client, it’s an experience that sands off the rough edges of the fediverse” was true wouldn’t that be prominently featured in the readme and UI? All this “toxic mode” and “extremists” buzzwords make it seem like you’re protecting users, but many users of Lemmy are here exactly because of those “rough edges”, fleeing from the sanitized, censored, unfree mainstream websites. Not because we’re terrorists, but because we believe that saying “billionaires should be hanged” shouldn’t be disallowed. Fuck facebookifying my experience by showing boomer memes and hiding real talk.

    and the remaining 20% just garden-variety spammers and toxic people who scare the normies away.

    Oh man, I’d rather have a list of normies that make the internet slop

  • RedSeries (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    50·
    9 days ago

    That post from the creator reads like a 4chan chud who escaped containment and is mad about their stinky diaper. Honestly, having read some of their little hissy fit about being caught, fuck that friendless asshole.

  • Kaul@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    491·
    9 days ago

    “Enable Toxic Mode”… lmfao!

    My discussions since joining Lemmy & dbzer0 specifically are so much higher quality than when I used Reddit. People aren’t calling each other stupid, and real discussions seem to be had from both sides of different topics. Maybe the instance I’m in is just well-moderated but I can’t see how this community could be considered toxic or put on a blacklist by anyone other than those who are ignorant and judge books by their covers.

    Some scary words for Patrick (cover your eyes): Anarchy! Transgender! Leftist! LGBT! Equality!

    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      9 days ago

      You might have missed the troubles, a period when squid was still active and being anti Zionist could and would get you banned across whole instances where pointing out that Joe Biden was clearly losing in their race to be president would result in a several week ban for some of the most important and critical members of the community. The petty authoritarianism really can’t be dismissed, and it’s probably the most important issue facing the project currently.

    • mirshafie@europe.pubEnglish
      7·
      9 days ago

      I call people on reddit stupid all the time, but that’s because there are genuinely a lot of stupid people on reddit who appear to be ignorant of their predicament. Unfortunately I only have so much time in a day so the vast majority of stupid redditors carry on blissfully unaware.

    • abc@suppo.fiEnglish
      11·
      7 days ago

      People aren’t calling each other stupid

      Uhh, what? Did you even read the comments on this very post?

      Consider the possibility that you’re in a bubble made out of titanium when you’re here.

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zipEnglish
    46·
    9 days ago

    Hmm,

    "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/fediverse_vs_disinfo",
"https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/flippanarchy",
"https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/gestapo_usa",
"https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/leftymemes",
"https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/libjerk",
"https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/politicalmemes",
"https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/politics",

  • amio@lemmy.worldEnglish
    461·
    9 days ago

    lmfao, that (linked) post. Read four words and almost fell backwards off my chair due to the sheer concentrated dipshittery, it’s like taking a firehose to the face.

  • Sanctus@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    441·
    9 days ago

    That post max crash out. Homie included a way to turn it off like a company hiding the cancel subscription options and expected everyone to love it. Like bro if you want to filter everything out thats what your block list is for. Also, he plainly did not mention why it was obfuscated to such a degree and acted like it showed you everything.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
          101·
          8 days ago

          It does raise the question of what’s left once you’re done scouring out all the shit you don’t like.

          I occasionally visit in incognito to see what I’m missing. And I’ll admit… mostly bad memes and reactionary hot takes. But I’m blocking maybe a dozen channels and twenty odd users. This block list goes into the 3k range.

          • ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zipEnglish
            8·
            8 days ago

            In my experience, once you get rid of all the people who are willing to voice a unique opinion, the people who are left are the ones make superficial one-liner puns. One of the great things about Lemmy is it’s usually a discussion, not just an upvote race like Reddit is.

          • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            8 days ago

            yeah, when i started using lemmy i started blocking every chungus i disagreed with. then i realized i’m a pretty big chungus myself on a bad day, and there’s like a hundred of us who use this regularly. if i block someone who’s just having a bad day that’s diminishes the experience here, but if i block someone who’s always having a bad day (i’m not naming names, but there are a few) it improves the experience.

            i think i might have fifty users total blocked (mostly bots and trolls i hope), and i’ve added maybe ten in the last year. 3k is just stupid.

  • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    39·
    9 days ago

    Wow what a cock. He thinks I fit in the category of being a “violent extremist?” Seriously? All I ever do is advocate for peacefully voting assholes out of office. Fuck this guy and his quiet censorship. May he always find a pebble in his shoe.

  • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    32·
    9 days ago

    There’s a really good reason why the fediverse is designed with public mod logs, and I imagine the motivation for creating these tools for blocking/hiding/burying content on the frontend is to get around the accountability that public moderation logs enable.

    I imagine that is also why some of the first communities AP blocked were mod abuse forums.

    As ever, scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.