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Donald Trump has announced he will run for president in 2028 during a rambling speech to the Washington press corps.
Trump was speaking at the White House Correspondents’ Association Dinner when he appeared to make the announcement.
I won three times, now I’m gonna do it again,” he said, while putting on a cap that read “Trump 2028″.
“I’m gonna do it again. It should be easy.”
He went on to add that he won in 2020 but the election was rigged.
The 80-year-old was met with a smattering of applause, but even he did not seem excited by the moment.
Over the dead body of every patriot that stands for the Constitution, which reads in pertinent part:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
-22nd Amendment
*Edit: Here’s the video of his announcement:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xyzWui2OX2I&t=2s&pp=2AECkAIB
He seem like he’s just joking to you?
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Don’t forget that he is only president NOW because we are already ignoring the constitution. Don’t act like breaking a different amendment is any different. We already lost our constitution and rule of law when we stopped enforcing them.
14th amendment - Section 3
“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”
He engaged in insurrection, Congress never voted to remove it, he is holding office NOW despite our constitution stating quite clearly he is ineligible.
Illegitimate president.
You can bullshit around the insurrection label, but the term limit is pretty cut and dry. Not going to stop them, but the ramp is how we got here.
Is it though? I’ve already seen arguments like “It only means two CONSECUTIVE terms” and other such bs arguments.
The thing is, if no one enforces a law then you have no law. You can write a rule on a piece of paper, but if you don’t follow it what does it actually mean?
Even without the consecutive terms bit that’s obvious nonsense there is a legitimate legal question that could potentially be used and legal. It’s not a new theory floated for Pedonald, it’s been an unsettled question since the passage of the 22nd Amendment. 22nd Amendment’s relevant bit is
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
By the most narrow, strict reading of the text it only prevents election, if they can find a way to become President without being elected such, there’s a reasonable read that 22 doesn’t trigger. 12th Amendment contains the text
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
Does ineligibility to be elected trigger the ineligible to the office clause? Could he run as VP with a loyal puppet who immediately steps down? Main legal opinion is “probably not”, but there’s enough wiggle room there that I wouldn’t trust the current corrupt Supreme Court not to side with him.
Exactly. Two big things at play with all this.
A. Legal loopholes and bizarre interpretations of wording. We see it every day, lawyers and politicians and the elites find the craziest ways to dodge the laws that bind your or I.
B. He ALREADY violates COUNTLESS laws and the constitution and the amendments and none of those are being enforced. He violated the 14th by inciting and enabling an insurrection, no consequences. He has committed treason with foreign powers, no consequences. He stole government documents and had them at his damn resort, no consequences. He committed election interference and fraud, no consequences. He diddled little children, no consequences. He’s committed non-stop grifts and scams and frauds with his status of PUBLIC OFFICE as president for personal gain at the expense of the country, no consequences. And no one even wants to read this far, but the list keeps going. Not a single REAL consequence yet, he’s captured all 3 branches of the government and has loyalists everywhere that are stopping any real actions against him, just like a classic mob crime boss.
So if laws can be dodged or interpreted differently and if the laws we do have simple aren’t being enforced then there literally is nothing preventing him from continuing on, and he can make up whatever scenario he wants to pacify his brain-dead-followers into believing it’s the “right thing to do”.
Hell, he could just say “the libs are trying to come get ya! I need to stay president to stop em!” And 77mil people would fall in line. Ugh.
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You make good points.
Yeah, the Supreme Court finding that the President was exempt from that wording really shows you the hoops they are willing to jump through to take over the government.
I’m horrified but also morbidly curious to see what bullshit they’ll be coming up with next to let Trump continue to rule.
They can just declare “a term” to mean 10 years. Or say “the law means two CONSECUTIVE terms is the limit” or whatever they want.
If no one stops them or holds them accountable or enforces the law or constitution then what’s the point of having any laws?
Not that laws have ever been fairly enforced, but come on…
The supreme court is on his side
His underlings and toadies are on his side.
And that’s why they need to be abolished. It was obviously a bad idea, let’s try something else.
Im curious what the alternative to an ultimate judicial authority might look like?
The court should be made up of a rotating panel of judges, made up of judges from the district courts, or lower courts in general, so the judges themselves are also subject to the court’s rulings, rather than a few permanent power-hungry narcissists imperiously sitting above us all with no accountability.
Each judge must be part of the Supreme Court for a year or two at a time, call it a “detail,” then they go back to their normal job as a judge.
That actually seems pretty practical.
Ok, yeah, this sounds reasonable to me.
This is still describing an ultimate judicial authority (aka, a “Supreme court”) just one with an alternative formulation of the conditions for which one serves on the court.
Original guy seemed to imply just getting rid of it as a concept entirely.
Here’s what I think. There should be 11 of them, and on an 11 year cycle they should be directly elected by the people 1 per year, 11 year term, 1 term limit. They should be selected from a pool that is made up of high level judges in the country, and the members of that pool who decide to run for the position need to pass some sort of test by an independent board of constitutional scholars.
As the Supreme Court makes rulings, rulings that allow or affirm a right or action should be set in stone and no longer challengeable unless the entire panel of 11 judges unanimously decide that the issue needs to be reheard.
Something like this anyway, I’m sure there is more to consider but this is the general idea that I think would work.
That sounds interesting, especially your view on rulings being unchallengeable. Full disclosure im Canadian so our system has differences.
To me, the root cause of that tension really stems from what I view as an inappropriate use of the judicial as law writers. It’s politically convenient for elected officials to use the cover of some rulings to allow ambiguity to persist in the law.
I think the ultimate cause of this in the US system is the general consensus (which by my read is not the intention of the law) that your constitution is immutable. Rulings on constitutionality are especially important because your constitution is amended so infrequently.
But with any rulings, I think that they should actually be MORE ephemeral, not less, based on the amount of dissent between judges. If a ruling is 5-4, there is a strong argument that the underlying law is unclear. This type of split I think is better resolved by the demand that legislators update or amend the law to add clarity. Judges, as interpreters of the law, are useful in function as a type of “quality check”. A 5-4 ruling, I would argue, amounts to the judicial writing law in the absence of clarity.
A 9-0 ruling? Law is fine. 8-1, probably still pretty good.
Even on a 9-0, there is nothing STOPPING the legislative branch from re-writing law. It is thiers to write and rewrite.
I just think tight splits should trigger some mechanism which demands a law-based resolution to clear up the underlying ambiguity within a specified time frame.
I get why legislators were happy to avoid touching law about things like abortion and let SC rulings be thier cover… they’re elected. It is convenient and safe. But they’re not really doing thier jobs.
Anyhow, that’s my 0.02
Something more horizontal.
Jury duty, but for the judges too?
I hope not, I’m pretty convinced that jury duty is a bad idea because average citizens are very easily misled by legal professionals.
Objection! Average citizens are easily misled by anything that moves or sparkles or jingles or…, hell, even rocks.
it’s a stark reminder that the constitution is not immutable. amendments are changes, and they may seem “hard to do” but with this regime and supreme court, they won’t stop until they pretend they did this legally. remember: nazis were legal.
Yeah but what mechanism could they possibly use to change term limits or mute article 5 of the Constitution (2/3 to call, 3/4 to ratify)?
The Supreme Could could declare it a political question, and/or is not self enforcing and would require an act of Congress to Implement.
This is a view that a majority subscribed to in Trump V Anderson regarding the 14th amendment.
“You’ve made your ruling, let’s see you enforce it”
From that website…
wtf? plz, no. That idea needs to be shot down right now.
I seriously doubt that Hunter Biden is even remotely interested
He’s said he’s not.
granted, he can’t be worse than the asshole we currently have, but, like. that’s a very, very low standard. Positively subterranean.
Highly subterranean, that bar is in actual hell
You thinking what I’m thinking? First mole person president.
America will only vote for a moleMAN.
(Hans Moleman 2028)
Anyone who isnt backed by an organization hellbent on executing LGBT+, stripping away the rights of women and bringing back slavery for anyone not white is better.
Lemmy can fuck off with the purity crusade already. Its old hat.
Like real talk.
I would be a better president than trump. But I would still be a terrible president.
You can fuck off with that “you’ll take a bad candidate and like it or else” bullshit. It’s a hat older than lemmy.
Why does he look like Micheal Scott in that photo? Lol
Which “minor update,” to the voting machines, will help him win the next election.
They absolutely hacked the election, you can tell by the projection of Biden hacking the machines then all the suddenly they’re radio silent on this election.
It’s official. He’s going for the Putin-esque “democracy”…a dictatorship where you beat the crap out of people at the polls for voting opposition.
No way he wins again unless he cheats
Pretty sure cheating is the plan. The only way he does business.
You mean like how he cheated this time and won? Yeah he’s gonna get a third term, cause who’s gonna stop him?
They already said Putin-esque.
Good Lord. If trump looked any more like roadkill, he’d have to fight to keep RFK Jr from trying to eat him. He looks like absolute dogshit. I didn’t think it was possible for somebody to look worse than Steve Bannon, and to be fair it’s really fucking close, but trump does manage to look like a slightly worse, bloated corpse here.
But he’s also a shitty president and a shitty person. Fuck trump. I can’t wait to open my bottle of bourbon when it happens.
RFK: Oh look!, I need to remove his penis for later. … wait, where is the penis? I should be here somewhere!
Can we finally skip to the part where we arrest him?!
That part will never happen. No matter what - he’s getting away with it. He’s too old to face any real consequences.
What we need to ensure is that responsibility doesn’t end with him. We need a new round of Nuremberg trials and his cronies and enablers need to be held to account.
No mercy. Those in the military who executed illegal orders should be court-martialed and executed.
You son of a bitch, I’m in
At this point we take small victories like him leaving office after his term and never coming back again
2016, Obama was president: Trump thinks that there were no problems with the elections.
2018, Trump was president: Trump doubts the legitimacy of the midterm elections
2020, Trump was president: Trump thinks that the elections were rigged.
2022, Biden was president: Trump has no complaints about the elections and calls it a “great night”.
2024, Biden was president: Trump does not doubt the legitimacy of the elections.
2026, Trump is president: Trump thinks that the midterm elections are going to be rigged.
I think that I am starting to see a pattern forming.
To be fairer to Pedonald than might be reasonable, he did question the 2016 results. Both before the election as a “if I lose it must have been rigged, because that would make me sad”, and after as a “I totally won the popular vote too, and every single state, but those fake votes made it look like I didn’t.”
It is a common issue. The person who is loudly making the accusations is the often responsible for the crime. I have seen this several times at restaurants and in retail. The person pointing fingers is often the culprit.
Trump absolutely thinks there were over 3 million illegal votes in 2016 and the reason he didn’t win the popular vote. While president he didn’t demand or even mention having an investigation into what would have been the largest democratic voting fraud case in world history. There should have been thousands of arrests to pull off 3+ million illegal votes.
Only two outcomes.
- He made it up on the spot because he hates to lose anything.
- He was right but also extremely incompetent in not calling for an investigation and there were somehow no whistle blowers nor any evidence at all and he almost never talks about it later.
And I’m sure NOW the military will stand up, right? After all, their job is to defend the constitution not the fucker in office. Right???
Thank GOD he’s NOT messing with the Amendment that LETS ME MURDER CHILDREN so I can FULLY Support this!
-LITERALLY Republicans!
Israeli Settlers aren’t the only people who can shoot up a school with the government’s blessing
If I could trust the system to actually enforce the Constitution, I’d say bring it on. The 22nd amendment never prohibits running when you’re ineligible to be elected. I’d actually love to see him run, “win”, and then have to watch his opponent get sworn in because he’s not eligible.
IF I could actually trust that the Constitution would be enforced.
Wait, that’s illegal
Oh damn its illegal?
Clearly the God Emperor would never do anything illegal.
Everything before this was fine, but I have to draw the line somewhere! /s
Horus on the other hand
According to the supreme everything he does is legal now
You think he’s joking. You’re about to find that things are different now.
Okay, in context this headline and, really, the entire article seem pretty batshit. Trump did not announce a re-election bid. He told a string of awful scripted jokes that concluded with his dumb hat.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/24/white-house-correspondents-dinner-trump-washington
The speech included a handful of scripted jokes, one at the expense of Robert F Kennedy Jr, his health secretary who he quipped had personally run over the cow that became the evening’s “very delicious beef tenderloin”. Kennedy has championed the health benefits of beef tallow and animal protein.
Trump also mocked the weight of Chris Christie, the former New Jersey governor, and Jerry Nadler, the New York congressman, imagining the two wrestling over a piece of cheesecake. He ridiculed the appearance of his critics, including Bruce Springsteen who he said “looks like hell” and took aim at CNN’s Kaitlan Collins, who had been honored earlier for her White House coverage, saying she does not smile enough. Trump said he “hated” Adam Schiff, a Democratic California senator, and one of his most prominent congressional critics, while mocking the size of his head and neck.
At one point, after a joke about term limits fell flat, Trump broke the fourth wall, asking the audience whether anyone understood “this whole freakin stupid speech that they wrote”.
Trump ended his remarks with a joke that landed awkwardly, declaring that he planned to run and win a fourth election – a reference both to his false claim he won the 2020 election and to his repeated suggestion that he could seek a third term, despite the constitution’s two-term limit.
It’s always a “joke” until it isn’t. This is textbook gas lighting, and its a documented tactic from him and abusers like him.
I think the reason no one’s reporting it is that it just isn’t a story. Trump makes comments like this all the time. There’s a difference between him making them and him actually announcing a re-election bid, which is the claim in the headline and article. Why would he even announce at the White House Correspondents Dinner while he’s bombing on stage? It just makes no sense. This reporting is bad.
If you listen carefully, you will find he never jokes. Testing the waters at least.
Sure. I mean, in this context it’s probably more trolling than that. Why test the waters in a room full of people who despise you? But that’s completely immaterial to whether this story is true. If the headline was “Trump indicates for the nth time he really wants a third term”, that would at least be defensible. It says that he has announced a re-election bid. He has not.
To the people downvoting, the point is that the headline is misleading. No one is saying that Trump’s statements are ok
For example, these previous incidents were not announcements either. It’s a BAD thing that he keeps making statements like this, jokes or not, but there’s still a difference between announcing a re-election bid and testing the water with “jokes”.
Jan 2025
Trump jokes about running for a third term in speech to House Republicans
It’s not the first time the president has publicly mused about seeking another four years in the White House, which would be barred by the Constitution.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-trump-has-said-about-pursuing-a-third-term/
Dec 2025
The comments came after he told NBC in March that he was “not joking” about seeking another term in office, after repeatedly publicly musing about the possibility. He also said at the time that despite the constitutional limitations, “there are methods which you could do it.”
Yes, you are technically right about that. But it doesn’t change the more important point.
About Trump? I doubt we have any disagreement about that. Not about who he is, what he is, what he wants, or how he behaves.
The only question I’m really asking here is: why is the reporting from this single Australian news organization so wildly out of step with every other news organization on the planet?
A common excuse of abusers and gas lighters is that they “were only joking”.
I don’t disagree with you.
But that has no bearing on whether this story is true. The claim is that he has “announced a re-election bid.” He hasn’t. And you know this – your recent comments are about him cloaking his intent or desire in feigned humour. I don’t disagree that he’s doing that. But, he does not need to do that if he has actually announced a re-election bid.
your recent comments are about him cloaking his intent or desire in feigned humour. I don’t disagree that he’s doing that. But, he does not need to do that if he has actually announced a re-election bid.
I think he (on a subconscious level) knows this would basically sign his death warrant if he officially did it cold turkey like you say would show it was real. That’s probably why he did it like this: to ease his way into doing it.
To use a relevant metaphor: raping children right away doesn’t work. They’re dry and scared. You gotta lube up first. This was him opening the lube bottle.
Jesus, dude.
Which makes it no different than his recent comments:
Donald Trump Fuels Third-Term Speculation After Saying He’d Like To Be ‘Next President’ (yesterday)
Donald Trump Mocked Over Word Flub After Joking About Running for Third Term as President (July 22)
Trump blends economic message with third-term tease in Pa. (June 23)
Also, that’s a gross metaphor.
Which makes it no different than his recent comments
So the gas lighting has been going on for a bit?
Also, that’s a gross metaphor.
Gross? We literally have someone who actually did that stuff sitting in the oval right this second. So, if anything, its a presidential metaphor.
Honestly it’s just textbook odd Trump ramblings. To say it’s gaslighting suggests some level of thought goes into what he says. He just not that smart.
He isn’t and neither is Bannon but their strategy has always been to desensitize the population.
They both mentioned the third term multiple times but amongst a thousand other flood the zone bullshit it just went through. When they officially announce it nobody will be surprised and 24h later there’ll be some other scandal like trump shitting his pants again.
It’s like a never ending stream of shit that keeps people in a state of outrage but never quite enough to not go to work and protest.
None of it is particularly smart and it’s all extremely obvious but it works.
This look like he’s not serious?
I guess it makes sense that the people who could never understand his sense of humor in the first place are having even more trouble with it now that his mental decline has really degraded his ability to deliver it semi-competently.
But if you think he’s seriously announcing his bid for reelection at the WH correspondents’ dinner you are just choosing to believe what you want to believe. He’s a narcissist, if he was doing this earnestly he would want rapturous applause. He would do it at the biggest rally he could muster.
I can’t see anything on YouTube. Is this just the video version of the OP?
Yes
ok I wasn’t doubting that he said it…
There was little laughter in the room as the president’s speech took on a harder edge. Not many people chuckled when he compared the “really beat-up faces” of UFC fighters with those of Bette Midler, Jane Fonda and Bruce Springsteen.
Mr. Trump seemed to realize he was losing the room. After a joke he told about the gerontocracy on Capitol Hill bombed, he said: “That was actually the only thing I thought was good in this whole fricking stupid speech. It was the only good one, and that went down with not exactly great laughter.”
He threw his arms up in exasperation and people started to laugh again.
As his speech reached its conclusion, he pulled out a hat and with a theatrical flourish plopped it on his head. It said, “Trump 2028.” Some clapped. Others laughed. Most of the reporters just stared straight ahead.
More disrespectful to the US than anyone ever thought a self-described American could be. Attributing election rigging by others, while rigging the election himself, ambiguously in reality and in dark, threatening humour.
