• samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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    WTF are we doing here?

    Repeating the same goddamn mistakes again. This is what Americans supporting Trump want, all “undesirables” to be murdered. This is what tens of millions of us are.

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      “eat the rich” and “grab the guillotine” can be seen as having the same vibe (“all “undesirables” to be murdered”). Maybe violence shouldn’t be the answer for either side, or maybe it is the answer for one side. I’m not going to advocate for it here, but I will say, we are a larger crowd… maybe don’t fuck with us?

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        There is a world of difference between evil people doing violence to innocent people who just want to live their lives, and doing violence to those evil people in order to protect the innocent

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          Yes. But people are people. Just like not all us poors are innocent, not all them richs are evil. “eat the rich”, for example, sets a presence of blanketed violence that we will never be able to escape. Preemptively killing someone because they might do evil isn’t really any difference in end result to where we are now. The “undesirables”, as they’ve been stated earlier, are not all innocent, and the USA government is kicking all of them out, because some of them might be evil (same as killing all the rich, because some of them are evil). I’m all for protecting the innocent, but the cost for doing so cannot be to kill other innocents. I don’t have answers, only criticisms, which is one reason I never got into politics. And, in case it wasn’t clear, these concentration camps they’re proposing are abysmal, evil, and likely illegal (like that ever stopped them before).

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            I don’t think you understand that quote. “Eat the rich” is part of the full quote, “when the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich”. It’s not about killing rich people, it’s about class struggle and avoiding the situation where the wealthy have accumulated so much that the people are starving. In other words, it’s a warning to the rich not to take so much that they are the only food left.

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              It is 100% about killing rich people. Also why guillotines are talked about in the context. I don’t know why you are trying to spin it any other way.

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              No I understand the origins. But I also have witnessed it used on here as a call to arms. I’m not referring to the origins, with which I fully agree but, rather, to what it has become as of late; it’s current colloquial use.

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                You really think “eat the rich” is too strong of a response to the rich literally building death camps and making snide jokes about feeding all of the brown people to the alligators? People saying “eat the rich” are crossing too big of a line in this situation?

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                so in the face of stripping human rights from vulnerable people, you willfully side with the fascists doing said human rights violations. I am from Germany and we went through our history thouroughly in school and I can guarantee you one thing: Any person that advocated for the Nazi cause, were part of the Nazis (even mere infantery cannonfodder), or silenced critiquers were tried in the Nürnberg (Nuremberg) trials as fully guilty. So when the MAGA craze settles, and people look at this situation with a 20 20 vision, I hope you are aware at what you are promoting here. The Hague is there for a reason and any sane person in the western world is just waiting for the trials to begin.

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            You can’t be a good person and be a billionaire. The simple fact that you have that much money means you’re taking more than your share. No one is creating a billion dollars worth of work.

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            That’s how the french revolution went. Not a great outcome in the short term for most people involved. Violence, no matter how justified, has a tentency to spin out of control.

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    if Nazi Germany was around today, this is the type of shit SS officiers would post on their social media, just to be clear. They are all powerhungry violators of human rights and should ALL be trialed accordingly

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    Seriously though, . . . wtf happened to her? She went from complete unknown to bitch-splattered hellcunt in a few months. russian kompromat? Meth? Drinky Pete Hegseth’s vodka shot diet?

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    Daily reminder to all ICE agents. By signing up for ICE, you have signed yourself up for a lifetime of fear and criminal liability. There are Nazi concentration camp guards that were tried for their crimes in their 90s. There is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. Your names are recorded; your deeds are known. And you will face justice for your crimes. And do not count on a blanket pardon saving you. Crimes against humanity are violations of international law that cannot be pardoned.

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    Second Amendment

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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    What for me about the new concentration camp was that it would have 1000 inmates but cost 500 million a year to run.

    Like wtf? You could buy them all a fucking house each for that. Every year. But hey, fuck food stamps right.

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    Everybody is comparing this to nazis, I dont recall Nazi politicians competing for private prison industry backing in campaigns.

    What she is doing here is vying for support from specific moneyed interests groups.

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    And they’re not big on paperwork.

    What a simple, unassuming sentence filled with pure evil. Telegraphing that she is fully in favor of concentration camps and genocide

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      Bet you dollars to cents she goes to a church and considers herself a Christian. Let’s not forget that whole “wwjd” bullshit doesn’t forbid beating a mother fucker.

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    Imagine bragging about more prisons in your state. Like that’s your fucking platform? How does that enrich the citizen’s lives?

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    Can anyone contextualise this for outsiders? I know trump used to talk about draining the swamp, but who is she hinting at throwing to the gators?

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    Jesus would be ashamed.

    Matthew 25:32

    32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

    34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

    37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

    40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

    41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

    44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

    45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

    James 2

    6 But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? 7 Are they not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of him to whom you belong?

    8 If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right.

    15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

    18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds.

    Acts 2

    32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all

    34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.

    Matthew 24

    24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

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      Save your strength for something more constructive. The hypocrisy is part of their ideology, because they don’t actually believe in words. They believe in power, words is just a plaything. You will get no gotcha moment out of these people.

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      Literally nobody cares. That’s why we’re here. It’s ALWAYS where christianity goes because christianity is an evil ideology that uses the concept of “righteousness” as a basis for division and ultimately genocide. It cannot do anything else.