• dkc@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I keep seeing stories about new places these gross glasses are being banned, including some minor laws about things like preventing them from being used in schools. It seems like most people don’t like these things. I think we should just start advocating for laws to completely ban the sale and ownership of these things. Their legitimate uses are so few compared to all the ways they can be abused.

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        5 days ago

        Cool. What about in public places in 1 party consent states? I am thinking specifically about recording the actions of law enforcement.

        Edit - Is it, as it so often tends to be, rules for thee -not for me.

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            4 days ago

            Yupp, but when we discuss pervert glasses it often boils down to people being recorded without their knowledge and consent in public. Any private venue can prohibit certain behaviors at their own discretion. What I wanted to explore was if it is the act of surreptitiously recording people that upsets us or if it was something else like what they were recording people doing, or what kind of people they were recording.

            • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
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              4 days ago

              Personally, finding out you’re secretly recording me with glasses or with a hidden camera would make me equally punchy.

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                4 days ago

                And violence is not a great way to respond to legal acts. Especially not when you are being recorded. Perhaps try some anger management before you end up letting your emotions get the better of you and land you in the slammer?

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                  4 days ago

                  Sometimes a night in the slammer is worth wiping someone’s face on the pavement. Annoying idiots with cameras fall in that category.

    • Lumisal@lemmy.world
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      It’s much harder to secretly record someone in any decent quality with a smartphone than with a pair of glasses where you just have to look would be my guess.

      That and smartphones have multiple other uses.

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        3 days ago

        By law, smart phones in Japan have to have their shutter sound being hard coded on in the settings to prevent perverts from taking upskirt shoots. I’m not sure how effective it is, but it would at least prevent the casual voyeur. Looks like meta glasses have a recording light, but there are people selling hacking services to disable it and of course it’s being advertised on Facebook Marketplace.

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      I mean the outrage over smart glasses based on meta selling your data is valid, but the outrage over “perverts recording women” is about as justified as the outrage over “transwomen sexually abusing women in women’s spaces”. Sure it happens, but not nearly as often as it is made out to be.

      If we are wrong to tar all trans people with the same brush because of the actions of a few creeps, we ought to be wrong to do so with people who enjoy smart glasses. I don’t own them, but if you had shown me an open source pair of glasses that basically gave me the ability to scan my surroundings for shit I had lost, turn mundane tasks like doing the washing up into video games and record action footage from my bike rides, I would probably buy some.

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        yeah but the outrage over it makes lemmy posters feel smug and superior and lets them indulge in violent fantasies of beating people up. plus you know, facebook makes them and anyone who uses any product by them is clearly a terrible awful bad person, and not a morally upstanding person, or something. they also love to fantasize about assaulting cybertruck drivers.

        because you know nobody can have a legitimate reason for purchasing, using, or enjoying either of these products. they’re all just creepy weirdos or something.

        you see it’s only bad when other folks judge and justify violence against groups of people for how they look or how they dress or what they own. when I, a very brave linux using heroic user of the fediverse, do that, it’s all good and justified and correct.

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          I mean I have been using Linux since before Ubuntu was a thing, but I don’t share most of the views you suggest. Am I the problem? Should I embrace violence and outrage? Would that make me happier?

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        4 days ago

        Eh, I’d rather we ban smart glasses and also smart phones. Or establish better protocols to banning photos by default, unless consent is given.

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          4 days ago

          Yeah, good luck banning smart phones. Are you just a Luddite? I mean I get that smart phones have atrociously problematic aspects to them, but they have been the single most impactful invention of this century and most of our daily life is built around it.

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              And how will they do that? How will they justify disallowing someone’s ability to call for an ambulance or receive emergency calls from one for whom they function as carer and emergency contact?

              Think.

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                2 days ago

                Lol wut. You don’t think convention centers have phones on the wall?

                And you think running 100 m to get your cell phone in the lockers outside the event is too far?

                Think

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                  You don’t think convention centers have phones on the wall?

                  Are you talking about phone booths or payphones? How is that going to help if you are in an active shooter scenario and have to run and hide? Are you going to cram into a booth or line up along the walls and make easy target? Again, THINK.

                  And you think running 100 m to get your cell phone in the lockers outside the event is too far?

                  In the event of an emergency? With people milling about and causing a panic? YES. In an emergency SECONDS count. I get that you are privileged enough to have never been in one, or never had to train for one, but please - think.