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ardi60@reddthat.com to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago

Ubuntu's "AI Kill Switch" Is Achieved By Removing Snaps, Initially Opt-In

www.phoronix.com

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Ubuntu's "AI Kill Switch" Is Achieved By Removing Snaps, Initially Opt-In

www.phoronix.com

ardi60@reddthat.com to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago
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    Seager explained in this morning’s update while there won’t be a “global kill switch” for AI features on Ubuntu, their plan is to deliver all the AI features via Snap packages. So removing AI features on Ubuntu will come down to removing Snaps.

    IMHO opt-in means the snaps wouldn’t even be on the system unless you had already opted in, but I was never going to use Ubuntu anyways so what does it matter.

    • Eager Eagle@lemmy.world
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      it is, but it’s initially opt-in; meaning the system won’t have AI features, but once it does, you’ll remove them by removing snaps

      it’s confusing because the paragraphs they talk about opt-in and removing snaps are different, but 26.10 won’t ship with AI features in a fresh install.

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      It’s bad naming. The feature is opt-in, meaning Snaps are opt-out.

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    What a coincidence. Snaps being garbage is the reason I quit using Ubuntu.

    If I remove a snap and install a deb package, I should not have to do multiple workarounds to stop it from being replaced with the snap package automatically. The firefox snap doesn’t work with a bunch of shit at all.

    • pastermil@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s also a coincidence that Linux Mint removes all that shit by default.

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        I switched to Fedora years ago. Linux mint has been not as good for a long time.

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          I switched to Fedora years ago. Linux mint has been not as good for a long time.

          Countering Ubuntu enshittification is an increasingly demanding task. Then there is also the issue that accessing bug fixes for software in the Universe repository that regular Mint inherits from Ubuntu requires Ubuntu Pro.

          Same BS doesn’t happen with LMDE.

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        If I’m going Mint, it’s gonna be LMDE. I’ve always been a fan of Debian though.

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    Maybe Ubuntu should just rename itself to Snap.

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      Oh snap!

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        Guess what you saw?

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    So now Ubuntu is the OS where “advanced users can just turn all that crap off”.

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      It was starting with the Amazon debacle

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    Burying the lede:

    Lastly, the VP of Engineering did clarify that they will be shipping code in Ubuntu that is co-authored by AI.

    “Regarding whether or not we should ship code that was co-authored by an AI - in reality we will be doing this. Even foundational projects in the ecosystem like the Kernel itself now have policies around how to govern this, and will accept tasteful, correct contributions that have been authored with AI.”

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      If the kernel accepts ai contributions…

    • ghen@sh.itjust.works
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      Does that mean mint is going to be AI as well? I haven’t heard anything out of that project because I’m not paying attention, but it just seems inevitable.

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        You can always use LMDE which is based on Debian upstream instead of Ubuntu.

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        I can’t speak for them, but they did start the Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) project as a means to escape total reliance on Ubuntu and their unsavory decisions. It does seem inevitable that every distro will eventually have some amount of AI generated code, if they don’t already.

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          It does seem inevitable that every distro will eventually have some amount of AI generated code, if they don’t already.

          100% there is plenty of undeclared “AI assisted” code all over the place already.

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    Good evening ladies and gentlemen! We are Canonical and you may have heard about our sensational trick: we shoot ourselves in the dick on public. It made headlines on multiple occasions. Now, you may be wondering why do these fellas whip their dicks out while loading guns with live ammo? Well It’s you lucky day because we’re about to repeat the shooting-in-the-dick act in your presence, and sprinkle your pretty faces with a little bit of gore!

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    This means no AI on base Mint [Insert happy kids stock sound here]!

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    Ouch, one of the many reasons I use Linux is to not have to debloat my OS when I install it because it shipped with features that are against my interest/enjoyment.

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    at some point Ubuntu was the most popular distribution. and the fastest growing one.

    what’s the most popular one now?

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      I just use Debian with KDE Plasma. Way cleaner than Ubuntu.

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        +1 for Debian here, I use it with Gnome and I’m pleased as punch with the stability and the way it stays out of my way when I need to get things done

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      Im Guessing mint

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        Mint Debian Edition if you don’t want the ubuntu bullshit.

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          Oh yea I noticed there was a lot of ubuntu in the background

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      That would be CachyOS. https://distrowatch.com/

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        Pretty sure that page is just number of people looking at it not actually installed popularity. While CachyOS is the currently hyped distro it isn’t one a lot of people should be running. Ubuntu, Mint, and fedora all have more users than Cachy.

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        Yeah I’ve been meaning to check that out. It’s been hitting my radar exponentially in the last few months, while 6 months ago I’d never even heard of it

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          Essentially it’s just Arch. Supposedly it makes games run faster, but I in all honesty see no difference at all after using it for a few weeks on my PC and Steam Deck. Your call if you want to give it a shot. https://distrosea.com/select/cachyos/

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      Arch btw

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      Depends on usage. I’m starting to see Linux on the types of industrial equipment that used to run the embedded flavours of Windows, and those are usually Ubuntu. When dealing with the developers of miscellaneous projects, Fedora seems to come up quite often, and everything production is Debian.

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      SteamOS

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      https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity

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      Fastest growing seems to be CachyOS for some reason. Ubuntu is still the most popular if you count Kubuntu etc, otherwise probably Mint.

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    So the kill switch is just the stand way to clean up Ubuntu? Nice!

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    I never found Ubuntu stable enough to use. Not when it came out, and certainly not today.

    Always on the avoid list. They just keep making decisions that keep it that way.

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    The magic of Linux is Ubuntu is one of countless many distros. One can have great Linux experience and not be forced to use one particular version of it. Be it systemd, snap, flatpak.

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    Welp, I’m currently downloading Bazzite to replace Kubuntu. Let’s hope it goes better than Manjaro did.

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      I’m currently downloading Bazzite to replace Kubuntu.

      Just FYI: If you don’t care for the preinstalled gaming stuff, the same people also make a desktop/workstation flavor named Aurora: https://docs.getaurora.dev/blog/aurora-spring26-update/

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        I’m in it for the gaming stuff. The prorprietary nvidia drivers were the big seller. That and kde.

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          Bazzite is literally trash for gaming. Every atomic distro is. It runs into endless problems the moment you try to do anything. Unless your treating your PC as a console and strictly plat games that never have problems. Its just issue after issue after issue.

          Cachy would be endlessly better options if your looking for an out for the box gaming experience.

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      Bazzite does great for me.

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      So you swapped one shit distro for another…? Bazzite is a god damn train wreck.

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