These are Democrats that think the Nordic model is socialism, and the oligarchy thanks them for their ignorance
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According to the same poll, 25% of the respondents had never heard of the Democratic Socialists of America, and 21% had no opinion of them.
Also, 10% of respondents who leaned democratic that the Democratic Party needed to be completely reformed, 47% said it needed major changes, and 39% said it needed minor changes.
Also, this is a major “throw the bums out” moment:
One question was: “Imagine that after the November 2026 elections, most of the current members of Congress are replaced with new members. Do you think that would:”
51% said it would change congress for the better, only 9% said it would change congress for the worse.
Also, even if only 1/3 consider themselves democratic socialists, 73% would be either enthusiastic or OK with nominating someone who described themselves as a democratic socialist, and only 27% would be uneasy or upset by that.
I actually can’t find in that poll where people identify as democratic socialists. But, everything else suggests now is an ideal time to run a DSA candidate.
That 73% number I think shows the demsoc policies are popular. Which is the real number to watch. The self-identification with a word subject to a century of negative propaganda is more an indication of how strong the propaganda is these days.
Also, even if only 1/3 consider themselves democratic socialists, 73% would be either enthusiastic or OK with nominating someone who described themselves as a democratic socialist, and only 27% would be uneasy or upset by that.
That 27% are the Democratic establishment. Those somehow still committed to neoliberalism, that sad, failed ideology.
Well clearly the problem is 1/3rd of the party, and the solution is to conceed nothing to them and run to the center hoping desperately to peal off a few Romney-style Republicans.
The crazy thing is just how popular socialism is across America. Deep rural red America can be quite supportive of socialist policies in practice.
They just don’t like the words. The language is poisoned. So they keep listening to the chorus that condemns the words they don’t like. Their perception is flat wrong and based on specific lies, but that’s a hurdle that has to be contended with, and why it’s so complex to discuss.
Peal is a loud ringing sound.
Otherwise, I agree.
Doesn’t matter so long as the establishment is still in control of who gets pushed forward.
We need ranked choice everywhere. They aren’t going to get there willingly.
You don’t understand how this works. If enough people vote for the candidates you support in Democratic primaries, they win. The establishment can’t stop them. If you’re still hung up on the superdelegate system that burned Bernie in '16, well that system is gone now, and it only existed for the presidential candidate anyway
The superdelegate system didn’t burn Bernie. He was behind Clinton in the primaries well before the superdelegates got their vote in the Convention.
Would they have killed his nomination in 2016 if it were close? Probably. But they didn’t have to because people weren’t voting for him.
People are down voting you even though you are objectively correct. That’s sad. I feel bad for those people.
It’s true. Let’s keep it up!
Thank you for posting this, OP!
Tend to be younger (59% are younger than 45, compared to 46% of non-democratic socialists aligned with the Democratic Party) and are more likely to be White (57% to 49%)
I really can’t parse what they mean by “non-democratic socialists aligned with the Democratic Party.” Juche supporters? Those younger than 45 who aren’t democratic socialists? What does the percentage have to do with age? Compared to what percentage for those older? Based on how I’m reading it, it’s saying that they skew younger but it’s hard to tell how much without knowing what percentage of total members are under 45. But it’s still quite broad based and not a youth or white movement based on those numbers.
I take it to mean Democrats who are not Democratic Socialists, but it’s an odd way of saying it.
Maybe they are including people who aren’t registered as Democrats but tend to vote for them?
Wisconsin doesn’t have party registration at all and hasn’t for a while (though it did when I first registered, and it cant be undone or changed now, leading to the appearance that we just have a huge population of independent voters (about 1/3 at this point), and no other changes in the last 20-ish years… so if it only includes people who are registered, it misses a lot of important data. Idk about other states, I think there’s at least one other that doesn’t do party registration, but a lot of people opt to be independent if given the opportunity because they lean left and dems kinda don’t.
So I think that interpretation is probably accurate.
Oh yeah, the juche thing is just a joke, but it feels like someone lazily added crosstabs without thinking about what they meant.
Or…or…people are realizing the democratic party wasn’t what was advertised
Are they all trying to learn what socialism is now to ensure they stay on with voters?
Voters pushing candidates to the left is a good thing. You should not be cynical about this
They have been actively guiding public sentiment away from populist socialism for 50 years, and they will choose to throw every election before they acknowledge that people want socialist policy
