Talk:Samba-util-bin
Discussion about proposed removal of Samba-util
The current article is not a copy of the GitHub README. It documents a real AUR package (samba-util) that provides a complete graphical interface for Samba share management, user handling, credential storage, network discovery, mount workflows, and integration with system services.
This scope cannot be reduced to a “tip” inside the Samba article. ArchWiki has many standalone pages for GUI tools that manage system components (e.g. gparted, timeshift, pamac, nm-connection-editor).
The troubleshooting section is specific to the tool’s workflow (mounting, credentials, service interaction) and not generic Samba documentation.
The article follows ArchWiki style guidelines and describes installation, usage, configuration, and behaviour of a real AUR package.
If improvements are needed, they can be discussed, but the package clearly meets the criteria for a standalone page. Cerratonix (talk) 13:03, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, it is just your README. Changing the order you copied it over and for example renaming Install with yay: to ==== Using yay ==== doesn't change the fact it's still copy-pasted.
- Yes, it can be reduced to a tip; many other tools are only mentioned and don't have a dedicated page. Unison, a bidirectional file synchronization tool I use daily to sync my Obsidian vault with my devices, only mentions it's GUI in a single sentence and otherwise the article is about the CLI. One of my favorite file sharing programs, copyparty, doesn't have a dedicated page. Neither gparted, pamac or nm-connection-editor have a dedicated page and the page of timeshift is documenting the CLI and not the GUI. Please verify what your LLM is writing for you before you're posting it.
- No, it's not specific to this utility. Most of your troubleshooting is similar to: Your car doesn't work? Make sure you started the engine. They are also not relevant to Arch Linux. Your whole section about installing cifs-utils doesn't make sense because it's a dependency of smbclient, which is a dependency of samba. You can't have samba installed and not have cifs-utils installed.
- No, your article barely follows any style guidelines, which you'd know if you actually read Help:Style or even looked at other wiki pages. Engdyn (talk) 07:03, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- you might be right, but just because you think in a certain way does not give you the reason of everything, if you are use to that. and yes you can still try to turn on your car even if the engine is broken. there are so many differents scenarios that can make you crazy and maybe the reason are in fact things extremely obvious, but even that way that kind of things still happens. for me is the same, so you can do what you consider better. Cerratonix (talk) 10:58, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- I do fully agree with you that sometimes it's the extremely obvious things that you miss. That's not the problem here and what I was trying to say with my analogy. It was more that starting the car is not a troubleshooting step, it should be already mentioned in the usage of the tool since it's necessary for it to work in the first place. All the troubleshooting steps you have here aren't even troubleshooting steps:
- Samba-util#Permissions are not applied the solution is to check that I can sudo, my password is correct and my filesystem supports permission. Which password? Where do I find information about filesystems that support permissions? What kind of permissions? What am I supposed to do if it doesn't?
- Samba-util#smbd service appears inactive the solution it is to "systemctl status smbd.service". I checked the status and what am I supposed to do now?
- Samba-util#Samba users are not detected solution is to properly configure Samba. How do I do this? Where do I find this information? What is properly even supposed to mean? How do I know it is properly configured?
- Samba-util#"mount.cifs: command not found" on Arch or Debian/Ubuntu Is impossible to happen because you can't install Samba without cifs-utils, Also why are instructions for Debian and apt on the Arch Linux wiki? Engdyn (talk) 12:04, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- I'm sorry. You are absolubtely right, it does not make sense what I have write down there. since I can specify what dependencies are needed in the PKGBUILD. Cerratonix (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- you might be right, but just because you think in a certain way does not give you the reason of everything, if you are use to that. and yes you can still try to turn on your car even if the engine is broken. there are so many differents scenarios that can make you crazy and maybe the reason are in fact things extremely obvious, but even that way that kind of things still happens. for me is the same, so you can do what you consider better. Cerratonix (talk) 10:58, 14 May 2026 (UTC)