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  • atrielienz@lemmy.worldtotumblr@lemmy.worldAnger
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    2 days ago

    “This” was meant to be a direct question about the person in the original post’s anger and grief.

    But I do think the therapist is actively making things worse by expressing this medical opinion this way to the person in question. It’s clear to me that they view this as a chemical imbalance of some kind (and as a result may be trying to push drugs on this person). But this persons anger and grief are valid, and I have found that a lot of drugs just paper over the cracks instead of working toward an understanding that the world is wrong and we do the best we can. This person is self aware. They recognize their anger. They know why they are angry. They understand that other people might have let it go, and they seem to even to some extent understand why they can’t. They are actively seeking therapy and help.

    I’m contrast, this therapist has expressed that something is wrong with them for being angry. In a society where we are constantly told anger basically isn’t allowed. And the triggering events for this person are front and center most of the time. They don’t get to have the space to distance themselves.

    So while I can agree that anger and grief shouldn’t be your personality and you should deal with your emotions and trauma as constructively as you can, I don’t agree that because you happen to fall outside the norm to remain angry or to express it.

    I may be reading a lot into what was said in the original post. But lots of other comments here seem to have hit the nail on the head.

    When society fails you and continues to pretend it didn’t, that causes what’s called generational trauma. The medical community fully acknowledges that this is a real phenomemon.

    So, does “healthy healing” mean op can no longer be angry?

    I think you’re looking at the stages of grief and relying on that to inform you about this post without thinking about the fact that this isn’t just about grief. This is also about societal failure.



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    What do you do with anger you can’t work through? When you are revictimized again and again because the world is the same crucible that cause that trauma in the first place and you can’t heal unless the world changes?

    Because that’s what you’re saying. You’re saying that as a “defense mechanism” it’s normal to let it go.

    But that’s not only not as easy as it sounds, it’s also not as human and normal as you make it seem. Just because you find ways to manage that anger doesn’t necessarily mean it goes away. We pretend that it does. We do that constantly. In the same way we pretend that grief and fear, and envy go away. They don’t. People either internalize them and try to pretend they don’t exist, or they channel them into something using that energy in a way that people find acceptable.

    I have witnessed this. If you’ve ever been forced to sit through a presentation from MADD you’ve seen this in action.

    I’ve lost a lot of people. Had a lot of bad shit happen to me in my life. I force a lot of stuff down to maintain. That doesn’t mean those feelings go away and what normally happens as a result is they catch up with me one way or another over time.

    I think you’re delusional if you think therapy just fixes people and makes their traumas go away. It doesn’t make them forget. That’s not how that works. Time doesn’t make you forget either. That’s just something we tell ourselves and each other as a coping mechanism.

    https://madd.org/