Way, way too many websites. I have to research all of them just to use one? I have choice paralysis! The corporations are right, I shouldn’t be trusted to make decisions for myself, and the internet should be like cable.
This is literally what happens when people defend first-past-the-post! “More than 2 viable choices at the ballot box is scary!” “I need my corporate politicians to protect me from using my brain”
I’m no fan of FPTP, but that point doesn’t apply here. Democrats have consistently supported Net Neutrality.
Net Neutrality was first legislated by the Democratic majority in the FCC in 2015. Then it was repealed by the Republican majority, championed by Pai and Carr in 2018. It was reinstated in 2024 when the Democrats regained majority of the FCC.
Can’t say I’ve ever seen anyone defend the system in play, just recognizing that it exists and until it’s changed in whatever means possible that playing the protest/spoiler is likely to make things worse.
To be fair I heard these talking points from republicans. The most brainwashed.
It shouldn’t be discounted, either, that they’re willfully abusing perception.
It’s like when they argue that voter suppression or them winning without a majority of the vote is actually what was intended because that’s why we’re a Republic and not a direct democracy.
Like, I don’t doubt that there were founders who would be sympathetic of depriving certain groups the vote (after all, they hadn’t given them the vote in the first place for that very reason) but “tyranny of the majority” very much wasn’t meant to mean outright suppression like through a carceral system.
It meant boosting minority opinions so you’d have to actually address and debate with them rather than rushing past.
But they know most people won’t have familiarity with the concept so they argue that their suppression of representation is actually a good thing, though I cannot believe anyone who’s passingly familiar with these concepts could say that and truly mean it.
Everything**
**Sites only we deemed brand safe for you to consume
Well of course.
2400€/m (gov clearance needed) for static IP address.
You think that’s choice paralysis, I’ve got 5,200 movies, 260 series, quarter million songs on my Plex. It’s exhausting.
Why would you do that? You can just watch Star Wars recycle the same story over and over.
holy shit! how many terabytes is that?
Not too much, x265 has great compression. I bought 4x 20TB drives last summer and they’re RAID 10, so roughly 36TB of storage in my truenas.
I want precisely zero of those web sites and apps
Then I guess you need the $100 teir option
Wasn’t net neutrality already killed in the us?
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I used to want this unironically, id pay $30 a month to not see any ads AT ALL. However my mind has changed. I now see ad companies as immoral and, quite frankly, evil.
I would rather not only not give them money, but I choose to use a Ublock Origin fork AdNauseam that ‘clicks’ on all the ads. This seems counter intuitive, but since some advertisers pay per click so clicking a total of a combined 10,000 advertisements on my desktop/laptop/steam deck/whatever costs them a LOT of money, and I’ve bought 0 products from advertisements because i haven’t seen any advertisements!
The best part is that you get an image of all the ads. It’s super cool to look and see what they want you to buy and you can play the guessing game of “What Was My ADHD Ass Looking At?!”
(this SS is from ~2 months in iirc, now I’m ~6-10 months in, I’ll have to check when I get home.)
It’s fucked when the unlimited option in this meme is less then I pay for internet now. I pay over 200 a month just for the fucking internet. Fuck Cox cable and shit choices I don’t have in my town.
Fuck that is expensive. £24/month here and I use 4G so I can take my router anywhere and it just works.
Christ, I knew Australian ISP pricings were exy but that’s absurd.
I’m looking at going to a 500 / 250? (Might be 100 up) Plan for around 140 AUD per month, I’d much rather have symmetrical Gbit but that’s well put of my price range.
$200 USD is around $315 AUD currently, that’s a whole ballpark of fucked up.
Yes it is. But that is the price to have gigabyte internet with unlimited data. Unfortunately without that it cost me more than 200 a month. Because they charge 50 dollars every gig you go over your data cap. So I pay 100 bucks so we don’t. Because I have 3 gamers in the house streams.
I tried to go lower but every fucking time I get nailed with the limit and end up 300 dollar bills. It’s shit but all I can get here.
I’d never heard of AdNauseam; does it replace uBlock entirely? Is it possible to run both?
Just run adnauseam on its own. I use it too, my thinking is that I am going to be tracked anyway. So instead of trying and almost certainly failing at avoiding it, you just overwhelm them with so much random data that it becomes worthless.
Makes sense, thanks!
It is literally a fork of uBO
Got it, thanks for clarifying.
It’s already like this in many countries in Asia. They offer data pacakages that are 50GB (for example) for social media data , and only 1GB for regular internet
my former ukrainian data plan only had 100mb per day, but 10gb on Youtube and unlimited social media (e.g. facebook and reddit + messenger apps like viber, signal and telegram)
to be fair, its not the norm here and it was cheap af back when i was using it (around 1-2$/mo while all other data plans were over 4-6$)
also i was using a vpn with an ssn spoofing feature to make it think all of the websites/services i was visiting were Youtube (that only worked for tcp traffic tho, not udp so no gaming)
and was using telegram bots to download flarge files (there are bots that will take a url and will either return a file located there or a rendered web page)
Damn thats rad! I will try this! I need to do this! Worst caee senario the ISP might block me if they found out xD
They offer data pacakages that are 50GB (for example) for social media data , and only 1GB for regular internet
In fairness, social media and streaming are absolute data hogs. I could get by very easily with 1GB for the old school message board internet of the early '00s.
No idea how anyone uses internet for business purposes, though.
Yes, but only the social media that paid to be included in the plan in the first place. That just continues monopolies.
They could theoretically implement this because of unencrypted domain names and ISP blocks, but if they actually tried this, that DNS over HTTPS thing Mozilla was working on - I’m sure it would get a lot more attention, be rolled out very soon, and disable ISPs being able to see or control which domains you were accessing.
I’ve been using DNS over https for a year or so now, it’s the most traffic on my network.
Or they’d just use deep packet inspection like russia does for blocking websites
They would just block anything that’s encrypted.
I must be stupid for not realizing a whitelist ISP implementation, I always imagined it would be more like a blacklist.
I thought about it, but immediately dismissed it cause they would lose their entire user base. It would be far too complex to have whitelist based access, as soon as anyone realized how restrictive it is they would bail
It’s kind of interesting to think about it in practice because on one hand the number of ISPs is limited in many areas, taking away the competitive choice, but on the other hand the opportunity to pull this stunt has been around for years in places like the USA and nobody has succeeded so far.
It’s been essentially tried since near the beginning with AOL. Their dialup service required you to have their branded browser (customized Internet Explorer) open to stay connected. On that browser you could only connect to sites in their walled garden whitelist.
Luckily, you could just minimize their browser and open regular IE or Netscape to bypass it.
It’s a minimum of $20 to talk to girls
There are girls on instagram but idk how talkative they are.
Meta Instagram is full of fake AI users. It could really be 50% bots
Don’t act like there are actual girls on the internet.
What’s the alternative to the corporate web? Tor? Usenet?
If the full extent of this kind of internet existed, Tor would be completely irrelevant on it. Imagine that there essentially are no other sites than what’s approved by isps. It’s the cable model.
Not that such a wild vision of the internet has any chance of taking hold now days. The point of the thread was to make fun of the people who are complaining about lemmy providing too much choice.
They can’t stop people from hosting private servers or creating protocols for bypassing restrictions. And even if they did, things like SSH and remote desktop would be completely useless, but those are necessary for maintaining even the corporate web.
What about the snowflake proxies? Dont those go through microsoft?
Worst case, could have regional intranets. Like people just connect their routers with eachother. Sneakernet over large media between disconnected regions.
But that’s me getting way ahead of myself.
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We’ll need a critical mass of well distributed nerds to make this happen.
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Could a VPN solve this nonsense?
Not if the only “allowed” services don’t include that VPN.
There are nearly always ways around this sort of thing, but it gets exponentially harder as soon as VPNs get blocked.
Yes a VPN could solve it. Run the VPN on a domain you know is good and on port 443 HTTPS.
This is already a real thing
Oh my god it really is. This looks specific to mobile data, thankfully. But I could see this being the foot in the door
I mean META is actually doing this! #aBoringDystopia
65% of Nigerians, and 61% of Indonesians agree with the statement that “Facebook is the Internet”
This is extremely worrying.
