• quoll@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    83·
    2 years ago

    by jan we will be so consumed by the flavour of the month culture war (trans muslim librarians are coming for your pizza gate!) that they wont even notice its happening.

    by the time they need it they’ll forget who even took it away.

    by the time they vote they’ll just think trump saved them from leftist death panels or some shit.

    • frunch@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      oh shit, the q-anon nuts are going to sprout again arn’t they… le sigh

      I’m over giving a fuck about them at this point. It’s tired, old hat, doesn’t really even bother me anymore. I know they’re saying shit to enrage people but when you see enough of it, it eventually just stops registering. I’m sure they’ll still find takers for their stupid games but i also suspect others are also moving on from giving a fuck too. How long can you really play games like that before you finally see them for what they are? Bunch of miserable twats trying to drag everyone else down to their level. I take comfort knowing i live a happier life than them, that all they have is hate. It’s actually kind of sad, really

  • peopleproblems@lemmy.worldEnglish
    74·
    2 years ago

    Oh god dammit.

    It just occurred to me that unless there’s some state thing Im unaware of, when I divorce, once the damn ACA gets pulled she won’t have insurance and I’m on the hook for medical shit for 5~ years.

    God fucking dammit. Just another reason these goddamn Nazi bastards needed to be taken care of before the election.

      • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldEnglish
        48·
        2 years ago

        I’m going to just assume that this is a man so he’ll be able to divorce just fine. Getting rid of no fault divorce is just for women so they are kept in the marriage where they’re abused.

      • peopleproblems@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        2 years ago

        I’m attempting to get the divorce done before that occurs.

        And I can prove fault if necessary I just really don’t want to dig that shit up again. The memory of discovering the affair was bad enough.

        And like the guy below said I’m a dude

        • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          Yeah, I assumed you’re a dude. But it doesn’t matter. About a year from now, it’s fair to assume that divorce is at least on the table/ chopping block, if not already outright banned by the new theocracy

    • FreakinSteve@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      Well I kept saying that and the responses were- without fail- “you first, tough guy!”, “go back to twitter, ammosexual!”, “if we dont respect free speech for Nazis then they wont respect ours when they gain power!”, and “you’re the REAL Nazi!!”

      So I hope trumptards get every single fucking thing they voted for.

  • rational_lib@lemmy.worldEnglish
    50·
    2 years ago

    Well last time they tried to get rid of it, but John McCain sank that effort as if failed 49-51. Just before he died of cancer.

    Now all the John McCains have been purged from the GOP and they will have a bigger senate majority, and likely a significant house majority too. So if there is an effort to repeal the ACA, it’ll very likely pass.

      • BossDj@lemm.eeEnglish
        95·
        2 years ago

        Years back, before Republicans realized it’s good (as they eventually do with all social programs), I had an aunt say “I’m on that Obama care and it’s awful!” So we asked which plan she’s on and she just kept saying “I already told you, it’s Obamacare.”

        I think the average Republican voter does not understand that it is private insurance

          • Mellibird@lemm.eeEnglish
            4·
            2 years ago

            I had to explain to my mom the other day about server wages and she didn’t even believe me at first.

            Not to defend server wages in any capacity, but the utter fact that she didn’t know the wage nor the federal minimum wage absolutely astounded me. And when she tried to tell me to vote for Trump because of no tax on tips, I told her, “then just tip in cash,” she was stuttering and moved on from the topic.

      • allidoislietomyself@lemmy.worldEnglish
        521·
        2 years ago

        Not even close to socialism or affordable. Currently paying $2400 a month on an ACA plan because my employer’s benefits don’t cover the services my disabled child requires.

        • SwizzleStick@lemmy.zipEnglish
          321·
          2 years ago

          Jfc, that’s my mortgage at least 4 times over. Any money spent on your kid is well spent, but it’s horrible that you must sacrifice that much.

          • allidoislietomyself@lemmy.worldEnglish
            14·
            2 years ago

            I’d do it all over in a heartbeat but it would be nice if it wasn’t so damn expensive. Compared to the literal millions of dollars all my kid’s surgeries, hospital stays, home nursing, medical supplies, prescriptions, and equipment costs it’s a small price to pay. So I guess I should consider myself lucky.

              • Schmoo@slrpnk.netEnglish
                21·
                2 years ago

                Referring to the place you live as hell while having free healthcare and a $600 mortgage on a 3 bedroom house has demoralized every American who read your comment.

                • SwizzleStick@lemmy.zipEnglish
                  1·
                  2 years ago

                  Tongue in cheek, of course.

                  The free healthcare has nosedived over the last 2 decades. It’s still free, but wait times for everything are insane unless you are actively dying. People can wait years for routine procedures & treatments. A regular GP appointment is weeks, unless you snag an ‘emergency’ appointment by phoning in at 8am sharp and beating everyone else doing the same.

                  If you need an ambulance and aren’t having a cardiac episode or similar - good luck and hope someone can drive your ass to hospital. Wait times are hours at minimum. A long time to be writhing around in (non life threatening!) pain.

                  Yes it is free. Unfortunately it is underfunded and overworked.

        • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.socialEnglish
          15·
          2 years ago

          Not really? Its a marketplace and some regulations on how insurance companies can conduct business. It doesnt really have anything to do with having the common people have economic control

        • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          2 years ago

          Socialism isn’t “government does thing”. It’s when large groups of people get together and tell the institutions “you’re going to do what’s best for us, and not what’s best for the .001% at the top”. This goes for interacting with the government, too.

          There are effects of this that can be felt, like “socialized medicine” or other public services… but they are not what socialism is, just what socialism does.

    • HeyJoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      2 years ago

      What was said here is correct, but I wanted to add that almost all the things everyone hates about ACA was also mostly brought on by Republicans that wouldn’t vote for it unless sections of it were modified. Democrats took what they could get and figured it could be revisited later to fix that at some point. Instead, the opposite happened, and it was handicapped even more by Republicans and here we are, where most people just believe democrats forced this awful plan upon us that is making everyone pay huge amounts of money.

      • BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        151·
        2 years ago

        Yeah, Obama was so fucking desperate to get bipartisan support that he and the congressional Democrats let the GOP sabotage it instead of fighting for the single-payer system that had been promised. And now here we are. I honestly believe that if he had both jailed the bakers in the aftermath of the housing crash and gone full single payer not only would we be in a much better place as a nation, but Trump would never have been elected.

  • BassTurd@lemmy.worldEnglish
    291·
    2 years ago

    If I have any Trump supporting acquaintances ever show a sliver of remorse to me, I’m going to bury them in ridicule. I know it’s not effective and is counter productive, but I can say this knowing 1. It’s never going to happen and 2. Idgaf and I’m taking my shots when I get them, because fuck these people all to Hell. I’ve already cut out a brother, I will happily burn these connections.

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 years ago

          I know. I work surrounded by trumpers while being a semi passing trans woman. I hate them. I want to rage at them. And also I need to stomach my emotions because I’m the minority here. I’ve known my fair share of hillbillies, and I’m the only trans person they’ll ever know. So yeah I’ll have to act the model and they get to vice signal in front of me all day long and it isn’t fair and I hope that when we die we have to stand before a god and defend our actions.

          But yeah I have to be willing to accept remorse and forgive those who repent and change. But I don’t know how I can ever trust them after what they’ve decided to put me and my people through. People like me will die because their feelings got hurt. And that’s not even something new.

      • BassTurd@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        2 years ago

        I have been, and they don’t care. Nothing has changed over the past 8 years, he’s just been a bit louder more recently. There’s been pretty solid evidence to anyone that has the most basic sense of reasoning, that he has been a Russian puppet since the beginning. They don’t care. It’s not something that we can use as an attack, because it’s either “fake” it they don’t care.

    • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      Someone needs to keep a record. Every action the Trump admin takes and chapter, page and paragraph of where that appears in Project 2025. Just to demonstrate the degree to which he’s doing exactly what was planned in that plan he tried to distance himself from and doesn’t support but also considered the “plan for our movement”.

      Really emphasize the degree to which the leopards outright told everyone they were going to be eating faces. Up front, across hundred of pages in detail.

  • yrmp@lemmy.worlddeleted by creatorEnglish
    26·
    2 years ago

    The idea of voting for a candidate with whom you disagree on things upon which you depend for your livelihood or survival is just wild to me.

    • Bruhh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      2 years ago

      They don’t think about any of the social programs that they depend on. It’s about hurting the right people. A platform built on hate. Then they wonder why the leopards ate their face.

    • TachyonTele@lemm.eeEnglish
      21·
      2 years ago

      People vote based on what they think the person is like. Harris is boring and the same old. Trump tells it like it is, that’s exciting!
      Nevermind that boring is what you want for government, you want everything to just work. But no, gotta be emotional about it.

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      2 years ago

      As a school bus driver, I work with a bunch of older people who are already utterly dependent on social security and medicare to have any semblance of a life that doesn’t involve living in a tent in the park and dumpster diving for dinner. They are mostly trumpers. We’re all Teamsters as well, and a few are married lesbians (and these are the most rabidly pro-trump of all). I have made a few attempts to convince them that trump (and Republicans for fucking decades) are out to destroy social security, medicare, unions and gay rights (among lots of other things) - but they reacted to me like I had grown an extra head. Somehow they’ve convinced themselves that the GOP is the original source and the protector of these things.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        2 years ago

        They are mostly trumpers.

        Spend all your time on a bus listening to AM Talk Radio year after year after year and see what happens to your brain.

        Somehow they’ve convinced themselves that the GOP is the original source and the protector of these things.

        Americans are the most propagandized people on Earth.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        23·
        2 years ago

        and a few are married lesbians (and these are the most rabidly pro-trump of all).

        They do know that just because it’s a Republican porn of choice, Republicans don’t actually hate lesbians, right?

  • vordalack@lemm.eeEnglish
    241·
    2 years ago

    Yes it will be repealed.

    An Alex Jones inspired health plan will replace it.

    The Trump government will propose the carnivore diet as healthy. Vaccines will be banned. Only Alex Jones Nutraceuticals will be prescribed by doctors. Cardio will be state mandated as an official LGTBQ activity, along with voguing, cardio voguing. Beards will be mandatory, whether you can grow one or not. The only clothing that will be allowed for men will be jeans, stupid meme shirts, motard gear, and line 9 apparel.

    The life expectancy for American males will tank to around 50, women and vaccines will be blamed.

  • Sarmyth@lemmy.worldEnglish
    275·
    2 years ago

    They didn’t do anything about it the last time he was in office and just talked about a replacement plan that never materialized. What makes it seem more likely they’ll actually remove it this time?

    Serious question. I didn’t really mean to make it sounds as sparky as it looks on a reread.

    • EchoCranium@lemmy.zipEnglish
      34·
      2 years ago

      With Trump in the White House, Republican control of the Senate and likely the House, and a stacked Supreme Court, there’s nothing to stop him from tearing down whatever he wants. There doesn’t have to be a replacement plan. Insurance companies will applaud the end of ACA mandates, which will let them sell policies without minimum government requirements for coverage and they can go back to denying coverage for "pre-existing"conditions. It’s going to screw over a lot of people.

    • SlicingBot@lemmy.mlEnglish
      24·
      2 years ago

      That’s not entirely true. Everyone forgets there was an individual mandate penalty that his administration & congress repealed.

      Anyone remember how the ACA assessed a tax on those who were not insured? (with income based exceptions). The tax was meant to feed into the ACA and keep plans in the marketplace cheaper, and to stop the program from adding to the federal deficit.

      Once the trump administration came in they worked with Congress to eliminate that tax penalty.

      Here is a helpful article that talks about the penalty and what the early findings showed when it was removed.

    • qjkxbmwvz@startrek.websiteEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      I think it’s a good question. My take, and I dunno if it’s right, is that they fucked up with Roe vs. Wade, and they know it — they were the dog that caught the car, so to speak. But once you catch the car, what do you do with it? It’s no longer something you can use to activate your base. They pivoted the messaging from “abortion bad” to “states rights,” but I think that’s less of a hot button issue.

      So I’m really hoping it’s the same with the ACA — they want to talk about how Dems are socialists and socialism is bad, but they don’t necessarily want to “catch the car” here. I do think that any changes will be explicitly about “Obamacare” and any replacement (even if it’s exactly the same) will be pushed as “Trumpcare.”

      I’m probably way off though, and I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if they indeed repeal the ACA. And as much as I feel like a horrible person saying it, I have pretty much zero sympathy for those about to get their face eaten by the leopards — I voted D, and I’m not reliant on the ACA, so basically sorry, but go fuck yourself (not you personally, just the regretful Trump voters — I am deeply sympathetic to others affected by this).