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    24 days ago

    At this point, if you drive a Tesla, I have a real hard time not thinking you like Nazis who hate freedom and minorities. 🤷‍♂️

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      At least if someone drives a brand-new Tesla. I can kinda sympathise a little bit with people who bought theirs a couple of years ago before Elmo’s antics became really obvious and are now struggling to get rid of it.

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        I give a pass to most Tesla’s because I don’t know much about cars. The cyber dumpster drivers knew full well who he was before buying their Swasticars, and they get to see my social finger at every opportunity.

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          Also, the cybertruck is objectively garbage on every front.

          It failed at its original design, it failed at its current design, it failed at range, it failed at tow capacity, and more. It is objectively the worst vehicle in the sector it’s trying to claim it is in.

          Subjectively…fuck all of it.

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              I thought you meant this Subaru

              And was likw “hold on, i didn’t knew he made cars”

              Last Season spoiler of Re:Zero

              Yeah, okay, it’s plausible a genocide atp, but a car?!

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              No, but selling your car in about a year, after you’ve had time to prepare shouldn’t be too big if a deal, right? It’s not about boycotting, it’s about having some kind of line that you draw in the sand and say “No more”.

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              Obviously you can’t do that, there no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. Regardless, there are choices you can make. I have never will never eat a a Chick filet, for example. You have to have SOME line

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                  Yes yes yes, simply read the comment you replied to and you will see that I say exactly that. Just because you can’t consume ethically under capitalism, doesn’t mean that you should just say “Fuck it” and do whatever.

                  This feels like when people are like, “Oh, vegetarian sounds good, but I could never. I simply love bacon too much” and then I inevitably say, “Okay, so why don’t you try vegetarian+bacon then?”

                  Ethics aren’t binary.

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                The next person could unwitting buy it not knowing the elon Nazi thing. I think you over estimate the general publics awareness of what goes on.

                It solves nothing. Future sales should be the target.

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      Ugh yeah, I’m an Uber driver and it being a cheap EV that also qualifies for comfort rides would really make my life better but I just can’t support the Nazi. I’m kinda jazzed about the slate truck, but I’m sure it’s bad for leftists someway somehow. Living under the thumb of capitalism is tough

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        Hey, wanna say 🤝 for being principled even when money is on the line, unlike some other responses in this thread.

        And I agree that the Slate looks cool af. 👍

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        slate truck, but I’m sure it’s bad for leftists someway somehow

        I’m not familiar with it. But what’s its front-on visibility like? How many children can sit in a line in front of it before you can see them? How tall would someone have to be before a crash results in someone being knocked over the car, rather than being run over? (The former being generally much safer.) The problem with many of these types of vehicles that Americans call “trucks” is that their insanely tall bonnets make them insanely dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists—especially children.

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          It seems like it’s slightly lower profile than a Ford Maverick and doesn’t seem to employee the sloped hood shape that’s better when it’s between the 30in-40in range. Which it doesn’t appear to be in. I’m kind of leaning towards the ionique? Ionic? The Hyundai. The other issue I’m working with is that I have a tall frame and sitting in a sedan all day is pretty uncomfortable which makes driving longer hours intolerable. Knock on wood I haven’t hit any pedestrians but I do do a lot of driving and it’s entirely possible that’s because of driving a sedan where I can see. It is a worthwhile consideration. But it would be nice. So many considerations

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            slightly lower profile than a Ford Maverick

            Just looking at the Maverick online, it seems a fairly obscenely tall bonnet in the 2022 models, but older models are much more reasonable.

            ionique? Ionic

            I think it’s spelt Ioniq. They’re a brand I quite like, and looking at their recent lineup (I think the last time I looked at them was like 2021), the Ioniq 3, 5, and 7 all seem really good. The 9 stretches things a bit, but is still a hell of a lot better than the Maverick 2022.

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      I bought mine before he went crazy. He has tweets after I purchased bragging about scoring high on lgbtq equality. Further, mine has lifetime free supercharging. The longer I have it the more I cost tesla money.

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        He was always a shitty person. Even in his adolescence.

        He made fun of his classmate because his classmates father committed suicide. That classmate responded by shoving him down the stairs. Which honestly should have happened more.

        He was always rotten to the core.

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        He has always had some pretty shitty opinions about things and a shitty way of doing business. Tesla was basically stolen by Musk from the guys who founded it, then he tried to rewrite Tesla history and label himself as the soul founder, at which point the actual founders had to sue him to maintain their founder status, and that was all in 2009, so unless you tell me that you bought the Roadster in 2008, I have a really hard time believing you. Or you’re one of those people that don’t care about things until it’s literally shoved in your face. But I digress. Sure you didn’t know.

        But what’s stopping you from selling the one you have now, since you do know, now?

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          Because, as mentioned in my initial comment, it costs tesla money the longer I have it. If I sell it, the free supercharging won’t go with it. While it’s mine I can choose where to get repairs and avoid tesla service centers. That’s not a guarantee if I sell it.

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          Tesla Roadster was just a Lotus with a retrofit electric motor. Without Elons cash they wouldn’t have become what they are today. In effect he helped found a viable production car instead of staying as an aftermarket retro fit of another manufacturers car.

          He’s an absolute asshole douche, but I’m glad he brought Tesla to where it is, it forced all other ICE manufacturers to take EVs seriously.

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            Tesla Roadster was just a Lotus with a retrofit electric motor.

            They worked with Lotus, but it only shares 6% of parts with the Elise. Musk wasn’t at Tesla at that time.

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        You bought yours before 2018? Because that’s the cut-off for when supporting anything Musk does was acceptable. Butting his way into an emergency situation offering “help” that lacked any awareness of what was actually needed, and getting so butthurt when told he wasn’t helping that he accused the heroes actually saving children’s lives of being paedophiles, and hiring PIs to try and track down dirt on them to that effect, is inexcusable. And then lying to a court to pretend that calling someone a paedophile is not a serious insult in South Africa, in order to win the defamation suit.

        It was a prominent enough news event that unlike his many flaws from before then, Tesla owners cannot reasonably claim ignorance after 2018.

        But anyone who genuinely did buy their Tesla before then is fine in my books. As winkerjadams says, selling your car now won’t hurt them. Not enough to matter, anyway. (In theory, more people selling might reduce the resale value, which will reduce incentive for people to buy new, reducing Tesla’s value. But I suspect that’s a miniscule effect in the EV market.)

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      My car is 8 years old and paid off. I’m sorry we didn’t have many options 8 years ago and we didn’t know who he was. I’m glad I have an EV now because gas is crazy and my electricity is $0.13/kWh vs $5.50 for gas, even though I barely drive it since I live in a city now and take public transit, but my wife uses it to drive to work. I am not going to buy another tesla if we ever need another car.

      But there’s no point in selling a car that we use at a loss right now. I don’t give him any money besides long distance trips with the superchargers, but every new EV uses the Tesla super chargers now.

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      I had a coworker that regularly pressured other people to buy Tesla. He succeeded in convincing two of his friends as well as his own daughter.

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    Of all the fuckery they did (and it was a fuckton), I’m most distraught about them murdering USAID. So much suffering and death for the sake of being cruel.

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      It didn’t even make sense as a political move. I’d wager most MAGA folks had never heard of USAID or knew what they did, and it was at least helping the US’ reputation on the world stage.

      Obviously the real value is the good it was doing all over the world, but for the Trump admin that couldn’t care less about that, it still made no sense to axe it.

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        Not knowing what a program did and cutting it anyways was DOGE’s MO. They don’t care. And the MAGA people won’t ever bother learning about how this affects everybody including themselves.

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        All the money spent on the US Military offering aid in places like Haiti, Nepal, and Philippines all came from the USAID bucket. Thw bottled water, fuel, shelters, food… all from that USAID line of accounting. I am very interested to know where the money is coming from to pay for aid in Venezuala, because it’s probably the same bucket for dumping bombs into Iran.

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        notice how fast the MSMs quashed the news of musk screwing over all the agencies that were benefitting magat states, when it started hurting them, or about . they stopped after reporting doge non-stop for 1-2 months, and almost nothing until “musk decided to leave doge” a few months later.

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        MAGA folks are conspiracy nuts and AFAIK one of them is that USAID was a tool of the CIA to have influence over foreign governments (or smth like that). Which was peddled by anti-imperialists originally, AFAIK. It wouldn’t surprise me if this somehow transpired into MAGA circles and was interpreted as an instrument purely used by democrat elites to rob hard working Americans of their tax dollars, which is of course happening more than ever under their current kleptocratic “government”.

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      “Did you reduce the federal deficit?” the attorney asked.

      “No, we didn’t,” Nathan Cavanaugh responded

      “I think a person can have enough judgment from reading books and being well-informed outside of traditional experience to make judgment calls about obvious things like a grant that literally lists DEI in its description,” Nathan testified.

      “What books?” the attorney asked

      "There were no books,” Cavanaugh said.

      Source

      Source - where I actually learned about it

      If it weren’t so depressing this would be some of the funniest shit I have ever seen. As it is, it’s still pretty funny, seeing these clowns have to (fail to) justify their choices to real, serious people.

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    Bunch of fucking murderous pieces of shit. They all deserve to be publicly beaten within an inch of their lives. Then they deserve to be denied medical assistance. I hope they all drown in baby shit.

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    They probably reached their goal. It was never about efficiency. That was just the PR spin to sell it to the public. It was about getting rid of pesky regulatory bodies which stood in the way of making more money. Especially those who hindered Musk’s companies.

    The USA is currently experiencing the end phase of capitalism: massive corruption turning into open corruption with an economic oligarch class fusing with the government, massive income gaps and problems for regular citizens, class and culture wars plus reappearance of fascism to keep the population busy with culture wars among themselves instead of uniting against the exploiters, and so on. But it just started in USA. It’s already swapping over to other western democratic countries as well.

    You becoming a neo-nazi by constantly being served right-wing propaganda on company-controlled social media channels is better for their business than if you were a neutral, critical thinker. It’s why Twitter was worth the 40 billion for Musk. Not because he expects it to ever repay itself. But because he can produce more loyalists by influencing what the algorithm shows and hides for you. Nazis are great for them because they’re busy fighting against other parts of the population while giving the wealthy class a free pass to do what they want. Which is more money, more influence, more exploitation.

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    It’s incredibly sad that they will never have consequences from what they did with this. Any functioning society will lock Musk and everyone up as soon as possible

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    There is no justice until this ratfucker is hauled off, imprisoned, and everything he’s done needs to be fixed.

    He does not deserve his freedom and humanity can’t withstand it.

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    The armed guards in the lobby of the first agency they raided should have shut down the DOGE Pirates right there in that lobby with extreme prejudice. That’s the very reason they carry guns. Instead, they just let them in.

    Then we could have fought it out in court, like we should have.