Trump is probably on the list, so he has to protect that. The Democrats had it during their entire presidency; even if they didn’t want turmoil during their time in office, they could have released it after their presidential defeat and before Trump took office.

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          So? Do you think a politician cares about their campaign promisses, or gets held to them? They very often do the exact opposite of what they promised actually

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            The point I’m making is Biden never campaigned on releasing the Epstein files. So it shouldn’t be surprising that he protected the people on the list. Trump did and his idiots fully expected him to release the list because he’s an honest person who keeps his promises. Trump knowingly and intentionally got votes from the psycho qanon types who have always believed trump is playing 4D chess.

            It’s important to note that the goal posts have moved. Originally people wanted to see the “black book” which may be what the client list has come from. The black book got released and it’s got lots of people in it but it didn’t prove any crimes, only that he associated with them. People kept talking about it and believed it was being kept secret because nothing happens and no one got charged with anything. I believe the “client list” which appears to be a new idea, is directly talking about a list of people who the fbi have information on of committing crimes where Epstein supplied underaged girls to them.

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      And Bill Gates, probably. I have a feeling that was a reason for Melinda to split because she has never given a straightforward answer. It was just, “Oh, we’re splitting for reasons.”

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      Yeah, but that wouldn’t be news. Same as Trump and Prince Andrew being on it aren’t news. I’m guessing some really popular people are on there. People like Bernie Sanders (I’m NOT saying he’s on there but you get my gist).

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        You’re right, it’s not news so much as that the Clintons come from an era of politics where merely embarrassing things are still kept on the down-low. Especially considering the continued influence of 1990’s Clinton-era politicking on the Democratic party. Even Obama couldn’t really break that hold, as seen by Hillary being given the Secretary of State position during Obama’s tenure and then running and losing after Obama. There was actually a lot of evidence at the time that the DNC was basically broke and was living off of the generosity of the Clinton foundation. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, chair of the DNC from 2011 to 2016, was literally in Hillary Clinton’s pocket. While Bill Clinton himself is not particularly important as a figure these days, the family influence continues to extend deep into nearly every facet of the Democratic party, and as such, Democrats are unlikely to bite the hands that feed them so to speak.

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    Its rumored that Epstein was working with Israeli Intelligence so they probably have big files on many prominent Democrats and Republicans which is why everybody talks a big game about releasing the client list (if it exists) but never follows through. Its stuff like this that exposes the real game that both these parties are working together against the American people. The party always comes first.

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    The obvious is that Dems are on the list too. Which is undoubtedly true. Even more importantly than that donors. But the fact that Merrick Garland was involved and he’d never to anything to make Trump look bad ever should also be remembered.

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    because includes alot of politicians, donors, and other world leaders, movie executives. just like the panama papers got swept under the carpet, it including tons of rich people.

    Gates, musk, trump, hawkings, diddy,etc.

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    Simple, they have more to loose than what they stand to gain.

    There are almost certainly several high profile democrats on the list, they don’t want to expose themselves so they are blocking the release.

    But ok, let’s assume that the list has zero democrats on it, that doesn’t matter at this point, since it will be extremely difficult to find someone who the public can actually trust to give them real unbiased data.

    The republicans knows that they can just lie and say that anyone in the democrats is on the list and just about everyone of their supporters will believe them

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    As non-American, the reason I think that Democrats didn’t release the list was that not only were some Democrats and their donors on it, they knew that they would be crucified by Republicans and Americans for it. The also knew that at the same time all the Republicans and their donors on the list would be let off because laws, morality, ethics are only ever to be used to oppress the poor and non-whites or to combat Democratic politicians. Do you think Trump would ever have made it to President as a Democrat? There is a reason he switched to become a Republican.

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    Two sides of the same coin. The Dems claim to protect the underdog, the Reps claim to oppress the underdog. Each identity politics appeals to a different demographic.

    The thing that’s the same between them is that they ALWAYS protect capital.

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    What would they have had to gain? Fox news would just pivot around it and move on. Trump was already a convicted rapist, tons of catholic priests are forgiven among their community for child rape, so it’s not hard to imagine Trump walking away clean from the whole thing.

    Meanwhile, dems probably had a couple big donors to lose and possibly a former president. Sounds like a bad trade when the whole party’s MO is to keep their hands clean and never play dirty.

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      Protecting child rapists is one of the dirtiest play you can play.

      Releasing the list, prosecuting the rapists and making this the topic in all interviews going forward to expose every last one of them as well as possible ties to Israeli intelligence, that would be the clean play.

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        Those you want to convince with this would view it as a political stunt fabricated by the left or the Biden Crime Family or whatever, and all it would do is reinforce the idea that any evidence brought forward is irrelevant.

        If they had enough evidence to prosecute, that’s fine. Sending rapists to prison is obviously worthwhile. But making a political point of it wouldn’t actually gain anything for anyone.

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      That’s horribly pragmatic but I have to believe there would be at least a couple of politicians who have the most basic of morals that would release it if they got their hands on the info