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BMW Is Showing Commercials On Their Car's Dash Screens And They Want You To Think It's A Treat
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Thanks i hate it. But otoh, some of the most informed people wrt tech and media i know are in advertising, so its not.gonna go away anytime soon. If you have a chance to petition someone with influence, i suggest you take it.
Ah right, this was BMW too:
For the past few years, BMW has behaved in a way that seems to treat their buyers as targets for more revenue over everything else. Remember all their subscription bullshit? People hated that, and worked around it, and eventually BMW had to dial that back, because having a subscription for heated seats makes people want to riot.
So, definitely on the “don’t even consider” list.
magnetosphereNow I can pretend I’m in a NYC taxicab that smells like cigarettes and vomit! Nice work, BMW!
quick_snailThey play ads in taxis in NYC?
They did, and probably still do. It’s not a screen on the dashboard, though. They’re on the backs of the front seats, so anyone sitting in the back gets pestered.
WahotsWatering down the brand, lol
I mean they did that the second they started making SUVs and then really did that the second they put an M badge on an suv. Seriously, their brand used to be 3,5,7 series. What even numbers are they now? They don’t mean anything anymore. Bonkers. But hey line go up I guess.
Well that was a dodged bullet. I’m glad we settled on a different car when we got ours recently.
Still, I think pretty much the whole industry is moving towards SaaS bullshit. Everything from subscription heated seats to ads in the infotainment. Hell, even in our new car, I can’t start the car without it begging me to connect to Amazon and setup Alexa. It’s making me miss my older car’s basic dash and infotainment honestly, but getting Android Auto/Car Play and a suspension that doesn’t feel like the Tower of Terror (or whatever it’s called now) whenever we go over a speed bump was life changing.
This shit should be illegal. At the very least, I hope that ad isn’t playing while driving.
No one pays $61,500…they rent them, but they call it “leasing”. It’s a mechanism for douchenozzles to drive something they can’t afford.
I call it a car subscription, and it’s for people who make poor financial decisions. It’s better to buy a car you can afford, pay it off, and own it until it becomes unsustainable to keep it running.
I own a house, and I make payments to a mortgage company every month, and I’m pretty sure it would be illegal for that mortgage company to put a fucking Spider-Man billboard in my yard, facing my front windows.
So… you don’t own a house, the bank owns it. Don’t give them ideas.
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The EU should ban this crap as soon as possible, it is clearly a distraction from driving
Given EU have created laws to require physical knobs for key features, I’d imagine this will be stopped as well.
BMW is the brand that tests for profit initiatives to see if they stick, I recall them being reported to attempt seated heating as a subscription a few years back
Wasn’t the EU going for cameras on drivers at all times?
What an awful “premium” brand. They’re the same ones trying for subscription access to heated seats, remote start, or driver assistance features among others.
What a crap brand.
I think it’s already the case on turn signals, but nobody noticed
That is the weirdest thing. I can understand bottom of the barrel economy brand going “The initial cash is small, but we will nickle and dime you on the service fees and show ads. What can you do, afford a different car? Don’t think so.”
Premium brand like BMW? What you smoking there in Bavary?
Your customers can afford to choose another car. Your price is high enough people expect smooth nice experience. Not annoying ads or clear pointless cash grabs like charging for already installed seat heaters. Sell the trim package or not.
What people will accept is “okay the maintenance and service at garage costs, if one wants to maintain this in nice condition”. Those suspension bushings, dampers, springs, tires and so on still need the normal amount of premium garage priced maintenance.
Exactly stupid nickel and dime cons like this are the fastest way to destroy brand image that takes decades to build, when I was ready to buy my first expensive Android phone I bought a Samsung Galaxy as I thought Samsung built good quality premium phones, and then I noticed that they had ads built into it through their default apps just like the budget android phone makers like Xiomi etc and I immediately lost all respect for the Samsung brand, my next phone was an iPhone after that
I have to imagine that the customers BMW targets probably like ostentatious consumerism, right? Maybe something like “these plebs don’t even get premium ads on their car dashboard.”
I mean I have no idea. I’m just guessing. They could afford another car, right? They must like it. Or are BMWs only for people that are like the “McMansion” level of rich? It’s not like it’s a Bentley or a Rolls, right? Those are car words. Aren’t those the “old money” type of brands?
50% of all consumer spending is done by the top 10% of income earners. Maybe BMWs are the bottom of the barrel economy cars for that 10%. 🤷♂️
If you willingly paid a premium price for a car where there’s a subscription to use built-in features that even “non-premium” brands have, then are ads on your screen really going to be a dealbreaker?
Especially if you can get rid of them for a small monthly fee.
All they had to do was add a limited Spidey skin for the system for the movie and ask if you wanted to download it.
Boom, feature.
I leased a BYD seal for the last few weeks as an extended test drive and it has adverts on the screen you use to change the climate control so…
Picture? I tried searching for an example online and couldn’t find one
You’re lying.
Dunno why, but it’s kinda lame
Adverts for BY D own products are still adverts.
Truth hurts?
Ok you do you.
The adverts that I have never once seen when I drive my car?
Pretty cool how we live in some parallel reality
Or, you could just be full of shit
Tech companies do something called A/B testing where they will release a “feature” such as Ads to a segment of the user base and not to the others to see how they respond to decide if they want to release it to everyone, so yes in many instances we do live in parallel realities.
Maybe some have them, some don’t?
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What a strange thing to not believe someone about.
This is much more acceptable when the product itself is cheap. See also: “smart” TVs for a hundred bucks.
There’s nothing like the freedom of having a car, trapped in a traffic jam, being forced to watch adverts. At least you won’t notice all the cyclists going past you.
How much can we pay to buy a PSA about using the fucking turn signals?
Prime example of enshittification
How long until you have to watch an ad before you can start going with the car?
Driver awareness camera detects inattentive driver. Ad restarting, please pay attention
McDonald’s \o/
How long before some truck manufacturer sees their truck returned to them as a truck bomb after pulling this shit?
If this shit came on while driving I would wreck the car ans sue the shit out of BMW.
But I’m not an asshole, so I’ll never own a BMW…
It is illegal to show anything like that while the car is in gear.
However, it’s completely fine as soon as you turn it on, or are sitting parked, or in aux mode.
Turn on car, forced to watch an ad before you can shift into drive. Turn off car, forced to watch an ad before the doors unlock and let you out. This is the future…
BMW exec just came in his pants
I though it was illegal to even do that. For example, parked at a read light and texting is definitely illegal. You need to pull over completely off the road to do that.
So I don’t see how a car can show you ads at a read light or stop sign, this literally diverts your attention away from the intersection and surrounding area.
Park, like not just braked but fully parking gear, so not at a red.
Fine, put it in park in a drive through. Suddenly McDonald’s bans BMW drivers from the drive through because it won’t go into gear until the commercial ends, which becomes more of a a problem than either brand wants to admit. The internet does what it does and now BMW becomes the new Chevy Beretta.
Let’s play this game. I am powered by spite and way too much accumulated PTO.
I would absolutely hack a car to remove garbage like this. The people who paid the cost of entry for these cars may be putting up with it now, but that won’t go on forever as it slips down the model line into cars normal people can acquire.
And then they will all be asking, why are people buying chinese cars
I intentionally bought a car with the least intrusive ipad and if a company ever comes out with a car that is all analog I will only buy that car. Honestly the ipad wouldn’t even be needed if they just gave me a place to dock my phone.
Sounds like you’ll be buying a Slate.
I’d be shocked if it wasn’t illegal to hack your own car by now. People are very authoritarian about vehicles. They’re fine with unreasonable prices, mass surveillance, facial recognition, endless registries, and forced subscriptions (yes, that’s insurance) and eat up any justification the government gives them for it.
Y’all aren’t following gear head news, huh? https://www.slashgear.com/2092803/doj-no-charges-diesel-engine-delete-tune/ Yes, I hate coal rolling.
And I also LOVE using Forscan on the family truckster. Thing is, some big companies think it’s a good idea to make rules about what you’re allowed to access (open software, repair ability) instead of what you can do (emissions, road rules), and that’s the wrong way to have a free and organized civilization, but it’s great for profit.
Tl;Dr right to repair is right to hack, don’t ban that but do enforce limits on how things are actually used.
See also, laws that are intended to limit 3d printing in the name of gun control. We don’t have gun use control in the US, but boy do we have lobbyists with reasons to restrict what we can print. Maybe even some gun manufacturers!
It doesn’t make things much better, but:
Also, it doesn’t play while you’re driving.
BTW, according to BMW it’s not an ad, lol:
Once again: since there’s no way of getting around surveillance & IoT bullshit in cars, I’m just going to have to take extremely good care of my old clunker.
I already hate the random length warning to obey road laws.
Ah yes, this is a partnership, not an ad.
Some marketing executive earned their paycheck for the month by coming up with this…
I will continue to pray for Slate to not completely suck. There’s a “smart” module that has a cellular modem, but it’s something you have to opt into and pay for it.
Same. I have a 2016 Subaru Outback that I wouldn’t mind giving to my daughter, but like hell am I buying anything connected to the Internet and tracking my every drive (for profit). Slate and to a lesser degree: Rivian are my only EV choices right now.
What’s Slate? Interesting.
All electric, modular pickup truck starting at $24,000. The truck is highly modular in parts and accessories as well as mods to turn it into more of a crossover/2 row vehicle. Stock vehicle comes with crank windows and no radio by default. All things you can add (or remove/modify) at any time. It’s a startup, so it has yet to be seen how good of a reception it has.
This would be a neat gimmick if it came with free tickets to the movie. Considering the price of the cars and the fact that only newish ones get the ad, they could afford it. It might even be positive PR.
For now you can skip it. Later you need verification fuel for your car to do that.
There isn’t much luxury in a car that annoys you with ads, is there?
But hey, maybe there’s an extra-super-luxury subscription that lets you turn off the ads. You know, like YouTube Premium or something, except that the free version already costs several tens of thousands of dollars.
It’s a win-win: insecure rich guys can feel superior again and BMW gets $.
That’s only fun for idiots and only once or twice.
The insurance industry, on the other hand, will have a field day.
I dream of the day all marketing people are flung into a mass grave.
I mean, this is just crap marketing from incompetent idiots.
A better marketing strategy would be to have Spiderman themes for the infotainment, and i don’t just mean a generic Spiderman wallpaper and icons, no, make an Avenger’s computer UI design that fits the theme, complete with themed sound and lighting effects. The tech is there, don’t just limit it to just displaying a video.
You could easily do that for different movies/brands without it being seen as marketing slop.
I mean if they wanted a themed UI from the Agents of Shield franchise they could make a Shield one and a Hydra one. When selecting the Hydra, the lightshow could make it look as if Hydra is taking over the car.
But good marketing today is a lost art, slap a video on everything, produce a shitload of crappy stickers with the generic logo of the film, produce from low quality “limited edition” collectors item….
This is just boring, but make the movie universe seem real, and you got a hook that will not only work, but actually be praised.
Marketing isn’t designed to be effective. It’s designed to be hated. While we bitch about this. Spider man and BMW keep being mentioned. The marketing people got what they wanted by being invasive and arguably abusive to their customers.
I hope the slate truck does phenomenally well for several reasons, but one of them is most certainly to spank the fuck out of these shit-ass manufacturers who want to gaslight us into thinking screens were ever a good fucking idea for an automotive interface.
The most amazing thing about all this is the execs that came up with the idea genuinely seem to think people want this.
How out of touch can you get?
Nope. They didn’t think it was a great idea because people will like it. They thought it was a great idea because of money.
No, they think shareholders want it. They don’t care about consumers at all. The shareholders are the only people companies care about. The consumer doesn’t matter at all.
If you have worked with marketing or brand of a large corp, those people are always the furthest away from the real work a company does. They have no idea of the real customer base, only numbers on engagement and NPS reports.
Totally safe from this as I can’t fucking afford a new car.
This is one of those things that might actually serve to push the notion that digital devices (including cars now) should be required to be capable of installing independent operating systems, especially open source ones.
I’d absolutely require military devices to be driven by open source software. And yes, that’s a security liability, but security-by-obscurity is an even greater liability.
In the case of consumer devices, open-source access would be a means of protecting the end user from predatory software rife with dark patterns.
Hardly. If anything it’s a benefit to security. You don’t have to run all the secret stuff using FOSS stuff. Just anything that runs the hardware (like the OS itself).
Cars have gotta be the worst possible place to put ads. Distracted driving is already a problem, this is just going to make it worse
They won’t let you play YouTube videos but they can play this shit? Fuck that
Sooo BMW drivers are gonna drive like bigger assholes now?
Distracted assholes, yes.
How considerate, after you watch the ad, they leave a new button on the dashboard, so you can watch the ad again and again
Soon some pedestrian is going to be run over at a intersection because a driver became distracted by the ad that popped up as soon as they came to a stop.
I’ve always wanted to test drive a BMW, but now I’m certain I’ll never want to own one.
One of my friends had one as a rental the other day. Even though I was the passenger I could tell it was fun to drive. Maybe I’ll get one next time I need to rent something, if it’s not much more expensive.
I’m certainly not going to buy one. Expensive to own and maintain.
This and the fact that you have to pay subscription to built in features you thought you’d bought. Sold mine and bought an MG. Can’t see myself buying another Beemer unless BS this gets fixed.
Yeah, there’s a guy in the crosswalk, but are you happy with your hemorrhoid ointment?
It’s Hammer Time
this isn’t a problem for me, I have a Honda.
It’ll happen to all makes unless trends change.
This isn’t a problem for me, I have a bicycle and the subway is… already… filled with ads. 🙁
I love this for them
It’s a threat.
The first one to make a safe bare bones electric vehicle with no dash screen and solid state batteries wins.
slate.auto
At this point, it would be better to just lease the car. What’s the point of buying it if the manufacturer still controls it and it’s not actually mine?
At this point it’s better to get a bicycle.