Massive Attack Banned from Singapore After Displaying Palestine Flag Onstage
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I had to reread that headline a few times before I remembered Massive Attack is a band 😑
There’s actually a story around the band name: during the first gulf war, around ’91, they changed it to just Massive because they did not want to appear like they’re endorsing it.
Ever since the first Gulf war.
They kinda did tricky dirty. But over all yeah.
They just released a song with Tom Waits called Boots on the Ground, great song highly recommend
they broke a local law
i guess they think they and israel palestine is above that kind of thing. a common belief held by people like that
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You would support slavery if it was legal
Massive attack is awesome, such a great experience to see their show. Much better than you would expect from a 35+ year old band.
Saw their show the other night in Korea where they showed the same flag. The whole show was epic and laid out a lot of uncomfortable truths. The whole show is here for anyone interested: https://youtu.be/mW_c909VqVU
But I bet it would been totally cool if they flew an israeli flag.
When publicly stating alignment with Israel or Palestine, you have to choose if you want to be hated by the government, or the actual people on the street.
It always amazes me how different people and entities are held to different standards.
It’s almost as if they are… different things.
Yeah. one of them are victims.
the other is the people trying to genocide them into nonexistence and getting away with it.
Ok my comment was very poorly phrased.
Different standards are applied to different countries.
Different standards are also applied to different people.
Possibly, but unlikely.
Singapore has a lot of very strict laws, and they apply them rigorously. Famously their drug possession laws have a ton of prison time, and often the death penalty for trafficking.
From the article, it is a very narrow but all encompassing law, originally passed in 1949 and the last update in 2021 predates the most recent conflict…
https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/FNECDA1949
Singapore has strict laws because it’s positioned as Switzerland of Asia but without actual country. It’s a bland “nothing happens” here haven for billionaires. They get to store their wealth and their kids there exactly because nothing happens in Singapore and if something does happen the surveillance and lawyer state will inform and protect you.
In the grand scale of things maybe one can argue this is good for Asia? But imo it’s disgusting and unethical, it’s distilling society to it’s worst parts of indifference and grifting. The only redeeming thing is academia which in itself managed to grift of this state but that’s good, take something good back from these billionaires and their hiden bastards - maybe they can be turned into real people who actually care about the world they live in.
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Badge of honor
Cuz ya know, if there’s one thing Singapore is touchy about considering its long historical ties with the Middle East, it’s Palestine and the fate of Jews and Arabs there.
Honestly, what do they care? Don’t they have other things to worry about on the other side of the planet?
They care about enforcing censorship and keeping a lid on “politics” disrupting “social harmony”. Once again Palestine is an issue that unearths the deeper fractures and contradictions in a society.
Also, guess which middle eastern country regularly sends their officers to train the Singaporean military? Hint: it’s not Palestine
Also known as punishing people who talk back to authority.
So mini CCP, got ya.
They have put in proper rule of law, so not like ccp. And although it’s defacto single party, it’s not de jure. But yeah, freedom of expression-wise it’s below average.
Rule of law is not so different from corruption in Singapore which literally just a tax haven. It goes from “I know a guy who’ll take 100k to fix this” to “I know a guy who will incorporate a shell company for 100k to fix this”. All it does it makes corruption exclusive to mega rich.
Rule of law just means rule of law. It doesn’t mean everyone gets same level of power or that it’s a fair system. It just minimizes uncertainty and human arbitraryness.
CCP is pro Palestine but go off
China is Israel’s biggest exporter and 2nd biggest importer
CCP doesn’t give a fuck about Gazans or they would embargo, it’s just a retorical device for them.
You’re not wrong but you’ll notice that all the countries that have made the strongest criticisms toward Israel are present in that list, like Spain and Ireland. Trade and geopolitics aren’t always compatible.
Yes but CCP controls all trade while it’s much harder in free democracies. If CCP actually cares about something it is done immediately. Just take a look at trade war with the US, CCP is always 10 steps ahead because they can move so fast as they can’t be held accountable. That’s actually why there are so many autocracy proponents in the west now - “democracy is too slow, we’re losing”.
people say its money that makes the world go round, but I think its more accurate to say trade makes the world go round.
Gotta buy that surveillance software in order to reverse engineer it.
CCP is not pro anything. It’s funny how autocracy founded on explicit design documents is one the biggest real politik actors out there.
“Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.” - 1984
CCP officially justifies these as “use any means for achieving goals” and this is the entire party - just power for power sake. There’s no actual ideology or consciousness - it’s literally “The Party” from 1984. However I don’t want to discredit Chinese people who actually do make meaningful change but it’s in spite of CCP not because of it.
CCP is pro-CCP.
Well, theres this really insane military power that they’re close trading partners with that really cares about their little ethnostate vassal.
Dictatorships will have their obsessions.
Palestine-Singapore is not that far away compared to, say, Palestine-USA.
USA gives zero shits about Singapore. They try to insert themselves into a narrative to try to feel relevant.
Thank God, I’ve been worried about a massive attack coming from Singapore for decades now. I’m so glad their nation decided to support Palestine instead of invading us.
Love, love is a verb Love is a doing word Fearless on my breath
Gentle impulsion Shakes me makes me lighter Fearless on my breath
Teardrop on the fire Fearless on my breath
Nine night of matter Black flowers blossom Fearless on my breath Black flowers blossom Fearless on my breath
Teardrop on the fire Fearless on my…
Water is my eye Most faithful mirror Fearless on my breath Teardrop on the fire of a confession Fearless on my breath Most faithful mirror Fearless on my breath
Teardrop on the fire Fearless on my breath
You’re stumbling down You’re stumbling down
Written by: Andrew Lee Isaac Vowles, Elizabeth Fraser, Robert Del Naja, Grantley Marshall
I haven’t listened to to that song since I started listening to Cocteau Twins. Didn’t even realize Elizabeth Fraser was on it, makes sense in retrospect.
Singapore has always given me the creeps because of the whole conscription thing. This just feels indicative of that underlying rot.
I visit Singapore quite often and it’s dystopian despite all the pretty parks and malls. The thing is it’s dystopian but boring so people don’t really notice it. The entire “country” is a tax and school haven for Asian billionaires, there’s absolutely nothing else there.
They’ve only had 1 party rule, it’s technically a democracy but it’s as rigged as it can be without crossing the line into actual rigging.
Are they still allowed into the Schengen zone? If so, the German government will have some tough questions to answer regarding its Staatsräson obligations.
The German government is apparently blocking EU Sanctions to Israel but that’s because it’s pretty easy to block things in the EU.
Making the EU actually do things (such as banning this band from entering the Schengen zone) on the other hand is way more difficult since the other ones can block it (which Spain would almost certainly do it on this subject and many others would do simply because they’re against blocking people to enter the EU just because one EU nation’s government discords with them politically - the bullcrap about criticism of Israel being anti-semitism has very little traction in most of the EU and apparently judging by recent news it has no traction even in the German Justice system).
Every time something like this happens we need a map with a country that changes color
Oh so Singapore is controlled by baby bibi too
I doubt it actually, they’re just real serious about their crazy laws and there’s a crazy law about no foreign flags.
A subtle control many feel is the risk of conflict. The local church near us was our boxing location for boxes for the hungry and unhoused, and when they found out that the lead person on the food boxes program was also attending pro palestine rallies, they cut off their participation in food boxes. They arent a jewish temple, and they obviously have no jewish members, but they fear conflict with the jewish community or some backhanded impact from funders or their spouses. So they will have nothing to do with anyone who endangers a cent of their funding. In a way I get it, but its not great and we were disrupted for a bit so some people suffered. 501c3 boards dont deal with pressure or risk very well, and they avoid conflict at all costs.
Did you know that you can’t get a massive attack on Singapore because it is ilegal?
It’s ironic as they fail to comdemn truely massive attacks on civilians
Banksy doing activism, I never would have guessed