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RustDesk, probably one of the best TeamViewer Alternatives
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RustDesk
Apart from that I am looking for a solution to a personal issue (see my other comment), I posted this because I was thinking this could be a great way to support other new Linux users and friends.
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Used this recently to help a friend out to get a game running and didn't want to switch to Windows OS to run another remote software.
Not great on wayland, super on x11 when tried on popos (current vs cosmic alpha). Waiting for my hdmi dummy to use my computer as a local remote workstation and server.
What issues did you have with Wayland? Didn't have too many(and btw, Waylands fault not theirs)
For some reason, it didn’t launch. I didn’t really dig into it since unattended access is not yet supported for wayland. I just went with x11 and had no problems at all.
Edit: I think this was on COSMIC which is in alpha. Could be the reason.
Currently using it on Fedora 42 Plasma and RHEL with quite a few clients without too many issues - the unattended access issues being the worst, multi Monitor clients being the second ones sometimes (funny enough only when the second screen is configured to the left of the main monitor).
Did they ever explain the highly suss Chinese links? I've used this a bit and it worked well but I'm still not sure I fully trust it.
Rusty Shacklefordx11vnc, when I finally come back to it after trying damn near every remote desktop application on the market:
I've had an amazing time remoting into friends and families windows machines from my linux box, and they were able to install rustdesk very easily. It's incredibly streamlined and has been so helpful when I need it.
I tried it a couple of times and stopped both times because it puts it own password dialogue box up for my password. I assume it wants to sudo for some reason.
No! I will not give you my plaintext password.
- No other piece of screen sharing software needs this.
- You've not told me what you need it for.
- Even if valid, no user level software should have my plaintext password. Make a request to the system, it will prompt me.
- You now expect me to trust the software developers that make such brain-dead security choices with sharing my desktop? Not going to happen.
Uninstalled as fast as I possibly could.
How's this compare against Moonlight?
I used to use RustDesk but changed to Moonlight/Sunshine because it doesn't need hosting a server to make sure my data isn't sent to some random Chinese server (I remember having read something about it a while ago, don't know if it's still an issue)
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harbardit absolutely is. used it for work and it fit our needs perfectly. I wonder how much improvement it has undergone in the year it’s been since I’ve used it.
@cm0002 I notice this has the same remote ID format as AnyDesk, are these in anyway interoperable?
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There was a bit of controversy about them a couple of years back that put me off.
Ha, I am thinking since a while that for preventing one's internet access being hacked by a foreign power, it's probably best to chain an American-made router with a Chinese one so that they can firewall each other 😉
On a more serious note... yes, nation-state attacks on infrastructure like xz-utils do exist, and as Stuxnet has shown, they are also being used against high-profile targets like Iranian nuclear faculities..
Such attacks against infrastructure are to be taken serious. But the xz-utils case and Stuxnet also have shown a few things:
So, this topic of foreign state-actor backdoors is less a thing for individuals to worry about. (I agree that lawmakers of democratic states should absolutely worry about this, here a good article be Bert Hubert on the topic.)
However what is actually dangerous is the erosion of privacy and the rising amount of mandated surveillance. But if one is worried about that, one should not use closed-source software in the first place.
I also avoided it for some of these reasons, but in the end it was just the setup that got messy. I ended up using Sunshine/Moonlight for an overall nicer experience. I can use it to stream games if I’ve got a good connection, or toss it in low bandwidth mode for remote admin work. I run it behind Tailscale to access it from anywhere, it supports Wayland, it’s all fully open source, and I’m very happy with the setup.
Yep, as for the last point: the problem was not so much the devs but data going through a Chinese server
You can use your own server.
So, but what is the current state of this issue? Any plans to move it to a GNUnited Nations server?
China is part of UN. You meant NATO.
It amazes me how you westerners are so afraid of China lol 😂😂😂😂
It's not fear I don't think. It's more like the Chinese Gov is opaque to us and it's people.
Try explaining this to my idiot employer. They recently deployed Teamviewer to all company computers.
I started using a couple of years ago. Works fine for me.
I was not doing very high end stuff though.
Sometimes, a solution which reliably covers 90% of use cases in a very simple way is the best solution for 90% of users.
I ran a Rustdesk server and it is constantly unreliable. It's very likely it's my fault and I lack the skills to fix it. I just decided to use Anydesk instead.
I've been running it for years now. No issues.
I was talking with my brother who was supporting our mother on her Windows laptop. He was using TeamViewer for years but that company now requires to subscribe to an expensive license on top of this is a really security- and privacy-sensitive kind of access.
His main requirements are that the new solution are:
So, it needs to be easy. I was first thinking in VNC but while I have been using TigerVNC for years in Home Office, this looks not exactly as easy as TeamViewer.
Last week was talking with our stand-in admin at work who turns out to know Linux well. He said he has very good experiences with RustDesk, uses it for home office and also for remotely accessing Windows machines.
What are your experiences?
You can also self host the rustdeck server - then you don't even have you connect to their infrastructure.
That's a very good and important point. Especially since reliable communication is really important in our case.
When I tried RustDesk it was not able to easily function on headless systems, including servers and my desktop PC if the monitor was powered off. Has that changed?
Anydesk and Teamviewer don't have that problem, but both companies have had hacking incidents and Teamviewer actually blamed their users instead of taking responsibility. Allowing 3rd parties of any type remote access to my computers is IMO just asking for trouble, especially for always-on systems.
Wireguard plus VNC isn't as seamless but it works fine the vast majority of the time. When I occasionally need features that VNC doesn't support, NoMachine is a full-featured, free for non-commercial use alternative that works great with WG.
Edit: It looks like the latest release of NoMachine now offers a intermediate network service that operates like Teamviewer and Anydesk. Access via intermediate network ID is not enabled by default, so with it disabled it should theoretically be more secure than the other apps.
I remote to a Mint on a laptop with a closed screen, and pop_OS that doesn't have a screen. (Second one has my jellyfin server). Connecting from my android phone and even my Windows laptop at my last job
Glad to hear they've added headless support. Will have to take another look.
Yeah if you still run into an issue for some reason add a virtual monitor in Windows, or "sudo rustdesk --option allow-linux-headless Y" (it's in the GUI as well) and it should take care of it, but I haven't had to do that
https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/wiki/Headless-Linux-Support
They have a headless setting now. Not sure how well it works though, I haven't tried it.
Does it have multimonitor support?
Yes.
Yes
I assume only as long as remote is using adequate number of physical monitors? Or can one run a virtual guest with a single virtual monitor and then use as many monitors as host has?
I have used many different RDP's, but RustDesk seems the best option. Yesterday I had to configure my Steam Deck and I am glad that RustDesk can be found in the Discover software manager.
Does that client work with a fully selfhosted server with no 3rd party relays?
Not yet. Had to use relay option.
Does that require trust?
Except it does weird keyboard layout mapping things that sometimes work. But that may be the only bad point.
especially when you are connecting from the android client.. how do I type a dash instead of an ü??
remember using it to start the wow classic server cue for skyfury before my drive home from work, shit was so nice.
nothing beats it. it even got wayland support!
For long distance access, i always used parsec, though i'm not sure how secure it is.
Tried to get it working but never could. Not that I tried very hard. But Immy iPad would connect to my Mac and I would see is a black screen.
Ah, I haven't tried Apple products. Works with Mint, Android, PopOS, Debian, without any tinkering in my experience. I remote from my phone to my media server/laptop/and other junk when needed.
I host Apache Guacamole on my server, and then VNC/RDP/SSH on the various PCs and servers on my network, so I can connect to them from anywhere, as long as I have a browser, my password manager and my 2-factor auth.
Wish guacamole didn't look like total ass. Otherwise a great product.
Looking for a modern alternative though.
Works fine for me. What is it that looks bad? The user interface? Or the actual remote desktop?
It's practical and does it's job. But the interface is jank. I still use it. But if a modern alternative came along I'd jump.