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Mike3322@lemmy.ml to UK Politics@feddit.ukEnglish · 1 year ago

Britain has escalated the global nuclear arms race – and is bringing us closer to armageddon | Simon Tisdall

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Britain has escalated the global nuclear arms race – and is bringing us closer to armageddon | Simon Tisdall

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Mike3322@lemmy.ml to UK Politics@feddit.ukEnglish · 1 year ago
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The UK’s strategic defence review plans to normalise nuclear weapons. Don’t believe the PR hype: they are immoral, irrational and catastrophic, says Guardian foreign affairs commentator Simon Tisdall
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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    What is this Tankie bullshit?

    We aren’t the aggressors forcing Europe, Canada, Japan, and Australia to ramp up defence. Russia and China are, as well as the US signalling how unreliable and ally they are.

    Russia threatens to nuke this country on a weekly basis, carried out nuclear assassinations on our soil, and brainless tankies like this one is blaming us for it?

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    If the UK got rid of its nukes then we’d just be defenceless against Russia, China, and even the US if the US decides they don’t value their old allies (which seems to be the case these days).

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      Russia and China do not care about a small damp island whose primary industries are depression and money laundering

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        Why do tankies always leap to the defence of Russia and China? Really odd.

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          “Why do the people who actually know things keep shutting down my dumbshit jingoiism? Why can’t these crazy radicals just let me advocate for nuclear Armageddon in peace?”

          Tell me your opinion of what’s happening in Palestine right now

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                I can’t see this reply because it was removed by a mod.

                • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                  beanis

        • Tenebris Nox@feddit.uk
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          Spank that tank!

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            Yeah, you’re definitely on the moral side of the argument when you fantasise about murdering civilians with a nuclear bomb.

            • CascadeOfLight [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              Whereas you ARE on the moral side of the argument because your government’s elite death squads actually do murder civilians

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                That link isn’t working for me. But in any case I can’t really change what the UK government does. I can vote but that doesn’t really make a huge difference.

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                  At least you get that you don’t live in a democracy, just a dictatorship of capitalists with some occasional political pageantry.

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              Also ‘civilians’ lmao the denizens of London’s financial district are among the vilest ghouls to ever walk the Earth

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                Yes they’re civilians. Not just bankers (although I don’t think bankers deserve death just because someone on the internet doesn’t like them). There will be cleaners, bus drivers, shop workers, etc, and you want to murder them all with a nuclear bomb.

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                  Look, it’s all love. I don’t want to murder them with my nuclear bomb that I have (my possession of which must be what’s warranting this level of concern from you) I just recognize that for our species to have a future on this planet they’re all gonna need to either be put in prison until they can be taught to value human life, or else be killed.

                  As for the hypothetical harm to the hypothetical civilians in the hypothetical scenario where I hypothetically have a nuclear bomb, I hope you have the same level of outrage about the real civilians in Gaza that the RAF has provided over 50% of the reconnaissance overflights for, to help Israel more efficiently massacre them using drones built with UK components.

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                  Unlike that person’s imaginary nukes, you are building real actual nukes and threatening civilians with them. And if they definitely weren’t threatening civilians they wouldn’t serve their purpose as a deterrent so there would be no point building them.

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    Actually was russia and trump. They just reacted to an increasingly hostile environment. It’s a shame it came to this, but I don’t blame them.

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      That’s a shit excuse

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