Server and client software on the same machine? Are you stupid or something? Why do you think people use something like that? … Exactly—because they don’t have extra hardware or storage. Or so that the data is available outside the network, and they don’t want to have to use a VPN or something to access the own network.
https://proton.me/legal/transparency Scoll down and check Protonmail… They did these from beginning Dude…
This is the new transparency report from after 2021… They lied back then, too… The same thing will happen with VPN now as well…
It’s funny how people who engage in gaslighting here or just copy others get upvotes, while the others get downvotes… F… this community
It’s exactly the same as when i pointed out problems with grapheneOS using facts and evidence… I’m so glad I deleted everything from that hypocritical community.
Thanks for mentioning it. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have clicked on the link.
As I said, it’s still the least bad provider. As for VPNs, I definitely won’t name my provider (it doesn’t have to be public), but before I’d use Proton VPN, I’d rather go with Mullvad. Rent a VPS outside the 5/9/14 Eyes alliance and set up a vpn there yourself, etc. Combine all of this with I2P or Tor. Encrypt emails separately with PGP.
But it’s 2026… Western countries are already taking action against all of that anyway.
https://cyberinsider.com/protonmail-logs-users/
In 2021, it caused quite a stir when they removed the “We do not keep any IP logs” statement… Anyway, I was already in contact with them about this back in 2019, and all I got from them were lies. Nevertheless, Proton is still the least worst provider. (Unfortunately, I didn’t save the answers.)
It goes without saying, of course, that Proton must abide by the law, and there’s nothing wrong with that. What is reprehensible, however, is that they did this for years while claiming something else on their website, thereby deceiving users—and that this lie gave them a competitive advantage over other providers who were upfront and honest from the start, resulting in those providers attracting fewer users because people were more likely to go with Proton due to the deception.
Proton has lied outrageously in the past (since its founding) and then, in 2021, updated its website regarding IP storage—or rather, removed the statement claiming that no IP addresses are stored. You definitely shouldn’t trust that statement.
“17 Jahre Später”
Hook:
Sie ham gelacht: “Aluhut, was laberst du da?”
Heute klebt die Kamera sogar am Kinderwagen, na klar.
Damals hieß es: “Du bist doch komplett paranoid!”
Jetzt heißt es: “Hilfe, meine Daten!” – Tja… Ironie.
Part 1:
Vor siebzehn Jahren stand der Nerd am Straßenrand,
mit Whitepaper unterm Arm und Fakten in der Hand.
“Passt auf, was ihr verschenkt, Bequemlichkeit hat 'nen Preis.”.
Antwort? “Komm mal runter, nicht jeder will dich überwachen.”.
“Ach, Überwachung? Hör doch auf mit deinem Film!”.
“Zieh den Aluhut aus, entspann dich und bleib still.”
Jeder Klick war gratis, jede App war so bequem,
Datenschutz war uncool – Hauptsache der Feed war angenehm.
Hook:
Sie ham gelacht: “Aluhut, was laberst du da?”
Heute klebt die Kamera sogar am Kinderwagen, na klar.
Damals hieß es: “Du bist doch komplett paranoid!”
Jetzt heißt es: “Hilfe, meine Daten!” – Tja… Ironie.
Part 2:
Siebzehn Jahre später ist die Stimmung etwas kalt,
plötzlich wird gefragt: “Wer hört hier eigentlich mit im Wald?”.
Gesichter werden gescannt, Profile fein sortiert,
und manche merken jetzt erst, wie viel schon passiert.
Der Nerd lehnt sich zurück, nippt grinsend an dem Tee:
“Erinnert ihr euch noch? Genau darum ging’s doch, ey.”.
Nicht aus Schadenfreude – eher tragikomisch fein,
denn Warnungen sind leiser, wenn sie niemand hören will.
Bridge:.
Die Pointe ist nicht: “Ich hatte immer recht.”
Die Pointe ist, wie schnell Bequemlichkeit verspricht.
Erst wird gelächelt, dann wird laut protestiert –
wenn das, was ausgeschlossen schien, vor der Haustür steht.
Final Hook:.
Damals Aluhut, heute Trending Topic, Mann.
Gestern noch gelacht, heute fragt man: “Wie fing das an?”.
Die Ironie schreibt Verse, die kein Autor besser schafft:
Erst wird der Warner verspottet, dann holt ihn die Wirklichkeit ein – mit voller Kraft.
(Offline AI ;))
Ich nehme mal an die downvoter lieben die volle Überwachung und Abschaffung der Demokratie. .😂😭 Ein Bonus für euch
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I host my own stuff and don’t bother researching providers. So no, I didn’t know that, and I was really stupid about it.