Beshear needs to grow a pair and get someone to find out if he’s alive or not, and if alive, conscious.
If the news of his death breaks on Aug 4th you know it was a scam.
Abusing the electoral process to further a fascist agenda is how he wanted to go out
The entire position of this government is, “oh yeah, well what are YOU gonna do about it? I am in charge here” Real corpo leadership mentality.
That’s not corpo leadership, it’s fascist dictatorship (which many corpo leaders also aspire to be).
Not much difference in my experience, except for the kind of uniform worn.
If Gov. Beshear has any balls or patriotism whatsoever, he’ll appoint a replacement on August 3 in any circumstance short of McConnell actually being present in the Congress building.
Gov should get in a car and drive to the hospital for an in person confirmation.
Too simple for this reality, i know.
Or integrity
I already know it’s a scam. The only thing I’ll find out in the future is what kind of scam it is.
I think you’ve perfectly described modern life
They really are going for it, I’m impressed
I’m out of the loop. Why August 4th?
Before August 4: Governor runs a special election and seat gets filled that way.
After August 4: seat remains vacant until new senator is elected in generals and new crop of senators gets sworn in.
Republicans are fairly certain they would lose a special election. It doesn’t seem they are too confident on keeping the seat in November, either.
For them, an empty seat for 5 months is better than one filled by a D.
This, poetically, being brought to us by the same shmuck who held up replacing Alitos seat, and countless others in lower federal courts in Obama’s last term because it was “too close to an election”…a problem that didn’t occur for AC(a)B when RBG died at the worst possible time (even closer to an election!), effectively nullifying her whole career.
even closer to an election!
Amy Coney Barrett was confirmed on October 25, 2020. Early voting was already open in a number of States and ballots had already been cast. So technically her confirmation hearing happened during an ongoing election, not just closer to one.
GOP already does not want to acknowledge any voting outside of that one specific Tuesday during mostly working hours.
They also seem to only want to count ballots until the end of the day. Anything after midnight shouldn’t count. Because those are mostly the rural votes, because the population is so much smaller, the counting is a lot faster.
Shit thanks for sharing this. So post August 4 is highly likely then I imagine.
3rd of August is the actual deadline date. So 4th of August or later.
She was a bitch for not stepping down WWII l when Obama could have replaced her. This whole fucking SC situation is partly her fault
Seriously. She she strived so hard to be a strong, unyielding feminist, that she ended up dieing as a stubborn bitch.
It’s really the shittiest part of the whole thing. Like she spent her life as a champion of women’s rights and feminism, but ironically, her only real legacy is that she didn’t step aside when given the opportunity. That one act (ultimately, saying ‘no’ to a man) in the long term, will have ended up erasing most (if not all) of what she accomplished.
The fact that her replacement that is undoing it is a younger and objectively hotter woman, chosen by the ultimate chauvinist, is just the icing on the irony cake.
That poor woman. The forces exerted by her rotating corpse could boil enough water to power a hundred datacenters.
I don’t remember all the details, but for the past years Republicans have stripped away lots of powers of their Democratic governor. And somewhere in there, they also had a rule change that doesn’t allow a special election if it’s so many months away from a regular election. So basically if they run out the clock, the governor can’t hold a special election to replace McConnell.
Edit: I dug up an article
Multiple articles have stated in 2024 changes to state law requires a special election to fill a vacant Senate seat. Before that, a 2021 law allowed the political party holding the seat to submit three names for the governor to choose from, rather than leaving the selection solely to the governor. Political experts cited in the report say timing requirements mean the window to call a special election would be tight, with an estimated cutoff of Aug. 3 based on candidate filing and notice deadlines. It’s why if it’s announced Aug 4th it’d would have been weekend at Bernie’s essentially and why people are calling on Governor Bashear to just call a special election to force their hand.
It’s worth noting that the laws the other people are mentioning are just state laws and therefore do not supersede Kentucky’s state constitution, which gives Beshear the power to simply appoint a replacement. Including a Democrat, if he wants.
Been saying this for weeks, even after the “proof of life” came out.
His body is being held somewhere secure. If he was dead at a hospital it would have 100% been leaked.
He’s “legally” alive, so the risk on saying he’s dead is technically slander.
He is not in any shape to perform his duties (or really any duties but existing on a technicality). This is yet another loophole being exploited that needs to be addressed. Likely in the future because this admin sure won’t address it.
*crime
He’s dead & they are 100% committing fraud by continuing to receive a pay check a month after the fact.
Beshear should appoint a replacement & let the GOP deal with the fallout.
This. Appoint his replacement and then let them prove he’s alive.
This. Appoint his replacement and then let them prove he’s alive
Great! Who is in charge of doing this?
Terrified Dems like Garland who never do anything with the power we give them.
Ok so it’ll never happen. Got it.
That would fall on Beshear, the governor of Kentucky. (If it happens before August 4th)
You might want to read up on why the Kentucky GOP is stalling, before you jump in with uninformed comments.
You’re showing your ass
He’s probably “technically” alive thanks to an IV infusion of pure malice and a bunch of machines they’ll unplug on August 4.
Even if that is the case, which I highly doubt, that means he can’t do his job & needs to be replaced.
His job as a member of the GOP is to obstruct progress as much as possible. He’s still doing that from beyond the grave.
I think you’ve got him here on a technicality.
No so much ‘beyond’ as ‘suspended above’ imo.
We miss a few days, even in some cases with a doctor’s note, and most of us would be on the hook for our jobs. Our supposed “representatives” can fuck off for months and still get a salary and job security.
We aren’t angry enough. Yet another reform to throw on the pile once we dig out of Hell and get back to ground zero.
Im pretty sure countries have had revolutions with less provocation than the American people are currently facing
Mitch the bitch would have loved all this stonewalling if he were still alive.
Oh boy you really nailed it. This is 100% him isn’t it.
I have my doubts.
If I understand right, Mitch (still a PoS person) was increasingly hating MAGA and Trump. If he actually was alive to have a say, he would probably support doing the special election just as a fuck you to MAGA.
He might have hated MAGA but he rightly perceived that it is the only thing keeping the right wing going in this country. That’s the thing with Republicants who “hate” MAGA: they never hate it more than they hate the left.
Or the poors, or the brown people, or the non-Christofascists
Dems fall in love, Republicans fall in line. Though these days it seems like that’s reversing.
It would be a fitting end to his political career if he is fillibustering his own obituary.
It’s because Mitch McConnell is dead, and the Republican MO in all things is treachery.
He’s 💀💯.
Surely its illegal to lie about an elected official’s alive/unalive status?
Oh wait, it’s the fascist/GOP party.
It’s precisely because they know it’s illegal that they aren’t saying anything. If they don’t overtly lie and just refuse to talk, they won’t obviously open themselves up to prosecution by a later administration (in theory, though I am sure a motivated prosecutor will be able to make a case either way).
Not one journalist in the entire country is capable of finding the truth about what’s going on. Pathetic.
Why is that, it seems crazy? Where the fuck is Jon Stewart now hounding McConnell to do the right thing in person?
When americans confuse their comedians for journalists I think that illustrates the problem.
Their comedians are often more willing than their journalists are to actually speak the truth. Aa a Canadian, I can’t even judge them for that because it’s rough up here, too.
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When folks from the EU think they are somehow different cause mentally they don’t think they are responsible for all the shit countries in their union but the Americans are responsible for all the shit states in theirs.
Comedians are the only ones who do any real journalism anymore.
Id argue they’re probably trying to publish but getting hit with national security forced publication holds
getting hit with national security forced publication holds
…? that in itself would be news.
also what the fuck is that supposed to be, really? afaik there’s no national security concerns about an old man being dead.
They don’t have to explain the hold for quite some time. Unless something leaks we wouldn’t know
the hold
you keep referring to this like it’s a thing. what is it?
I can’t find anything about it.
It’s prior restraint, which is commonly mistaken to be illegal. It’s not there’s just a heavy presumption against it and since it’s national security related the court hearings about the subject are usually closed and sealed but the discussion of the governments right to do it aren’t.
New York Times v US 1971
There’s also voluntary prior restraint where a publisher decides not to publish because the effects of publication don’t outweigh getting shutdown under the burden of huge legal fees.
ah. never heard prior restraint called ‘the hold’ before.
TIL. I was aware about prior restraint; it’s not that it’s illegal, it just keeps being found wanting compared to the first amendment.
but that all may depend on which supreme court it’s going before.
Real journalists wouldn’t care.
Jail time is no fun and has a big price tag unfortunately. Though no one is stopping you from being that change.
Not my country, guy.
“Jail time is no fun.” Excellent, keep giving Americans a pass on their cowardice. Couldn’t possibly put yourself at risk or sacrifice anything for your country and the FREEDOM you’ve been shitty about for a century or so.
You don’t seem to understand how this works. You try to publish they shut you down and put you in prison and your story still didn’t see daylight you’re just some dude in prison likely in solitary.
You’re not wrong but being shitty doesn’t change the fact they would end up in jail and accomplish nothing, no one here seems to be giving Americans a pass we’re just aware you have to pick your fights.
This isn’t the 1800s anymore, you post online and people WILL see it
No. If they know who you are you aren’t posting. They control the pipeline, if they had no idea what was going to happen that might apply it just doesn’t in this case.
Right. It’s impossible to get information into the public’s hands.
Journalism exists for no more important reason than to be a check on powerful, dangerous people. Third degree burns are also “no fun,” but firefighters exist.
No, it’s impractical to do so without escaping the country or going to prison.
Your example makes no sense, putting out fires is legal, nonpolitical, encouraged and as far as I’m aware there’s no time place manner limitations on it either.
They’re voluntary holds. The media is complicit.
They could be but we don’t know. It seems you have all the solutions and a rigid stance on it, why isn’t there at least I’ve outlet reporting huh?
Where’s Lois Lane when ya need her?
Serious question: what is stopping Beshear from calling for a special election right now? Like seriously.
“The people of the great state of Kentucky have been without proper representation in the senate for over a month. Since Mitch McConnell has abandoned his post as Senator I am calling a special election for his replacement immediately.”
Make them PROVE he is still alive.
Yep, call for the election, and make MAGA sue. If they do, they’ll have to prove he’s alive, and if they can’t, then they get to go to prison.
Call their bluff. They’re lying, they’re ALWAYS lying.
But we must preserve the future by allowing the nazi takeover at all costs
Serious question: what is stopping Beshear from calling for a special election right now? Like seriously.
The fact that he’s a pussy.
Cowardice.
Heather Cox Richardson (historian) talked about this in her politics chat today; she seems to think it’s a combination of a) likely legal quagmire b) with no major benefit given congress will soon be out of session and c) turtle holds a couple of really powerful positions, while he’s out the republicans are hampered.
lack of testicular or ovarian fortitude. Some reporter should ask him if his balls are in a jar where we could actually verify that they exist. Lets just put the rumors to rest.
His future political aspirations.
Alive and capable of representing KY
The sad part about all this is that Americans are still going to see the Republican party as a viable political entity instead of the fascist traitors they are.
I had hope until Jan 6th…
The American population is beyond stupid
And American Mass Media is North Korea style garbage
It’s time to balkanize this country, let the American empire die
I think that’s going to be inevitable at this point.
Yeah, honestly it should happen sooner
Are you saying i should vote for some commie, socialist, shia law wanting, gay, transgender, abortion on demand wanting, atheist, clearly not the right shade of white Democrat?
Perish the thought
MITCH MCCONNELL IS DEAD
BECAUSE HES FUCKING DEAD AND US REPUBLICANS ARE CRIMINALS.
MOST OF ALL THE PEDO FELON IN CHIEF
This may be a time to put “U.S.” I was confused at first.
And the Dem just sits patiently waiting. Fucking appoint a replacement.
Normally I’d say this is the realm of conspiracy theories, but updating the people that a US senator is supposed to be actively leading on his basic ability to represent them is such a low bar to achieve that suddenly it all smells fishy.
Its a genuine conspiracy to commit fraud, treason, etc
Yeah, he’s definitely dead.
Let’s not jump to conclusions now. He might just be brain dead.
How is that any different from the last 10 years?
Not only merely dead but really most sincerely dead?
If a senator is absent, their vote should not count. Period. It is not deferred, and nobody can vote on their behalf. It is straight up not counted.
This is what Republicans want for midterm and presidential voting, so why does it not apply to senetors?
This would incentivise them to elect healthy people and quickly replace people who can not do their job.
I want unhealthy people to get elected too! The problem isn’t that he’s unhealthy, it’s that he’s cheating. The more we allow delegated voting as a matter of policy, the better represented we’ll be.
Can we please have age limits. Senators shouldn’t be dying of old age in office. You can’t run after the age of 70
I mean I agree even for Bernie. He should be living a chill life of retirement not continuing to deal with… gestures at everything
Bernie would end up under contract to some network, and make more in a year than his entire political career, but that’s not important to him.
Even for him.
I like him. I don’t always agree with him, but I think he’s one of the few that really gives a shit and actually walks what he talks and I deeply respect that. I value the perspective that comes with age too. But it’s time for age limits, man. It’s past time.
Agreed, he’s a rare exception.
