I don’t get something here. How do they have a facial recognition database that is accurate enough to even begin to attempt this? Yes, most Americans have some form of photo ID but many of those IDs don’t require updating the photo more than once every 10 years. Also, not everyone has a ohoto ID. How can they possibly think this database is good enough to use for determining who should be arrested?
Beyond that, ICE has stated that they are trusting the database even over actual documentation. They say the database doesn’t lie, even if you have documentation saying otherwise…
They store the data from everytime you enter and exit the country. For citizens they claim to delete that data after a couple days- but I would not be too confident in that. So if you are a citizen ALWAYS opt out of biometric entry and exit. I’ve multiple times been told it is not an option, then being forced to wait 10 minutes- harassed about why I want to opt out, then it suddenly becomes an option. This is despite CBPs policy that you cannot be penalized for it. I have several audio recordings of this happening because I noticed how much of a pattern it was.
CBP is relentless in its mission to safeguard the nation’s borders and the privacy of all citizens. CBP’s biometric facial comparison technology is hosted within a secure cloud-based environment and does not store biographic data for any travelers. CBP retains U.S. citizen photos for no more than 12 hours after identity verification and only for continuity of operations purposes.
As far as we know it’s not actually using any facial recognition at all.
It could just be using the scanned face to generate fake evidence of non-citizenship. It would be SUPER easy to make an app to do this using generative AI. You know, like Grok.
Could they be secretly using this to build a database? I read that they you can’t opt out of it and you can’t get your images removed from the database afterwards.
In order to have something to compare to a database of scans, what do you think a scanner must first produce?
A scan of comparable quality.
Then [I assume] the hired bully is satiated by being given a screen that allows him to decide pass or fail, and accompanying red or green lights and buzzers flash as they either release or kidnap their next victim.
The data is uploaded regardless. Probably to Palantir.
I don’t get something here. How do they have a facial recognition database that is accurate enough to even begin to attempt this? Yes, most Americans have some form of photo ID but many of those IDs don’t require updating the photo more than once every 10 years. Also, not everyone has a ohoto ID. How can they possibly think this database is good enough to use for determining who should be arrested?
Beyond that, ICE has stated that they are trusting the database even over actual documentation. They say the database doesn’t lie, even if you have documentation saying otherwise…
They don’t. These are fascists looking for an excuse to abuse people, not judges trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
Seems like a really easy algorithm: are they not white? 🚨
They store the data from everytime you enter and exit the country. For citizens they claim to delete that data after a couple days- but I would not be too confident in that. So if you are a citizen ALWAYS opt out of biometric entry and exit. I’ve multiple times been told it is not an option, then being forced to wait 10 minutes- harassed about why I want to opt out, then it suddenly becomes an option. This is despite CBPs policy that you cannot be penalized for it. I have several audio recordings of this happening because I noticed how much of a pattern it was.
Those are optional. When they tell you to look into the camera, just hold up your hand to cover the lens and say “no thanks”
Sometimes they frown. Usually they just say “OK”
I have many audio recordings of them not just saying “OK” is the problem
Are you white?
Because I guarantee if I did this I’d be fucked.
Trust me, I think they did everything they could to be as obnoxious as possible. Do audio record though
Another article posted said 15 years.
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/biometrics/privacy-policy
Is what they claim. What you saw may have been about non-citizens
As far as we know it’s not actually using any facial recognition at all.
It could just be using the scanned face to generate fake evidence of non-citizenship. It would be SUPER easy to make an app to do this using generative AI. You know, like Grok.
[Insert Family Guy meme where the officer is checking the shade of skin]
Could they be secretly using this to build a database? I read that they you can’t opt out of it and you can’t get your images removed from the database afterwards.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner.
In order to have something to compare to a database of scans, what do you think a scanner must first produce?
A scan of comparable quality.
Then [I assume] the hired bully is satiated by being given a screen that allows him to decide pass or fail, and accompanying red or green lights and buzzers flash as they either release or kidnap their next victim.
The data is uploaded regardless. Probably to Palantir.
God save us all.
Peter thiel knows about the Anti-Christ
Peter thiel knows about the Anti-Christ
There’s no way you can’t opt out
Yes, but laws haven’t been stopping them. They been forcing it.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/10/ices-forced-face-scans-to-verify-citizens-is-unconstitutional-lawmakers-say/
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It’s probably built into the app.
Camera -> picture -> face detection -> color grading.