Couldn’t we just have warning messages?

Thus preserving free speech and not setting a precedent that may [/ shall inevitably] come back to bite us.

Maybe even LLM could generate the warnings on the fly.

“Look out! Now he’s reading the plans off the teleprompter! … Look out! Now he’s spitballing freestyle! … Beware there are three fallacies per word uttered for this portion. … Beware of the fevered ego of a narcissist tactically noising up an evasive distraction, gaslighting, darvo, future faking. … Warning: This section contains fascist tactics of blaming the other, drumming up fear of losing an identity of a nostalgic past that never really existed, drumming up hate and racial groupthink to induce a divisive totalitarian mob eager to militarise under supremacist delusion of destiny to rule to be fulfilled by jingoist expansionism and total domination but wraps it in a euphemism of flowery language heavilly laden with superlatives. … Fact check: This portion makes false claims of having fulfilled promises. … Note: this is just empty tautological statements sandwiched between bragging and boasting and hard-sell. … Warning: This section contains a psyop to dupe you into thinking you should be blindly faithful to your leader, rather than your elected representative being faithful to the will of you the people.”

… Stuff like that. n_n

Or maybe simpler, just like on tobacco products. “Warning, listening to this may cause brain damage, emotional instability, cognitive dissonance, discombobulation, and totalitarianised fascistic supremacist persuasions of competing groupthinks, to divide and conquer your population with this, a weapon of mass distraction. Observe responsibly.”

Or maybe more compassionate, like a health warning… “this is what happens to you when you let yourself get played by blackmailers who want to wear your narcissistic ego like a puppet, and you stew your brain in excitotoxins for decades to induce a slow chemical lobotomy leaving you blissfully oblivious to how much you get played like a puppet.”

… Okay, I’ll stop. I realise I could probably do dozens of these, and they’re not really that funny or revealing or hot or useful to be worth it. n_n

So it’s a turkey!

And is that a meleagris or galus on the right?

first the prudish, then the hentai

Oh this must surely confound and anger at least a few anti-transgender trump supporters.

Reminds of

The promise of socialism, much easier, more robustly, if doing freedom first.

Though of course, push too hard to the sides, and you can tip over a slippery slope, on the right, it’s the mechanism of wealth and power consolidation, with the rich able to accumulate wealth (and therefor power) faster, since “it takes money to make money”, and on the left it’s more a mere ideological slip up, to a totalitarianising fervency.

Big baron terrorises with scare stories of big brother. Big brother terrorises with scare stories of big baron. Both terrorising everybody towards totalitarianism and tyranny. We do better without these bigs that have us all jump at once. Big bank, big bully, big bot, big blight it matters not. Freedom first, where we can have meaningful discussion about our economic balance and how to organise things.

I thought I did. Though upon closer read of the rules, I’ll kindly bow out, as that was my previous life in which I’d feel [others would see me as] a good fit.

A lot of the replies to this, in rough grok analysis of epistemics at play, to be fair, remind me more of those who kept insisting blue LED were impossible, and their arguments remind me more of “we cannot have spaceships because the string doors won’t work in space” type arguments, more than they remind me of industry agents intentionally sowing seeds of ignorance squared. [~ Mild confidence. Generously [amidst some redherrings and moved goalposts etc.].]

… And fun to think of the contrast of those two examples. They’re [/you’re] almost certainly seeing this with blue LED, and blue LED was sought by industry, did not obsolete their industry, but enhanced the demand for their product, while augmenting the appeal and profit margins and all kinds of other features (~ radically different world where we did not yet get blue led… smart phones wouldn’t have happened, for a start). They’re [you’re] almost certainly not seeing this while sat in their [/your] own spaceship, nor even a water powered car… probably not even a car fuelled with hemp oil or ethanol (~ radically different world where we did not get any of those suppressed… far fewer incentive for resource wars, far greater self empowerment and a better educated and empowered populace, resulting in better democracy from that better informed public, with a better practical grasp of energy, utility, facility, society, health and more, on the road to becoming polymaths in the making (~ rather than single-purpose slaves in training)).

Certainly a part, a potential.

I wonder about coupling such with things like mycelia too, that can grow from radiant energy besides light, and can form symbiotic relationships with plants, and so, maybe (if this isn’t too simple-thinking), yeast with algae, there could likewise by biological catalysis, synergies, mutual boons, that even then produce other useful stuff too.

~ that also got me thinking of the various pond surface plants, and how prolifically efficient growers they are too. Not sure how to put that to use, besides, idk, a source of protein and b12 for vegans.

~ and, not quite sure why, but that moonpool reforestation method springs to mind too. I don’t know how yet, but put all these things (and more) together, and, … good results. ;)

I believe they crush technologies, but most of the things you mentioned aren’t true.

Beliefism and contradiction asserted.

There were no spaceships possible in the 1930s.

Foo fighters only showed up in the 1940s are you thinking? Or not even aware of those? Or the bell (“die glocke”)? Nor my earlier examples looked into? Just presuming? If so, how? By mistaking absence of evidence as evidence of absence?

Why crush that technology when they could have conquered the world with it?

LOL. Fun way to answer your own question.

It’s not possible to run cars on water.

Indeed. Any who attempt to, seem to die or disappear. … iirc, Stanley Meyers’ famous moment, running out of the restaurant from a meeting with some potential “investors”, shouting “THEY POISONED ME”, just before he died, seems to serve (intentionally or not) as a warning and disincentive to even try.

The thermodynamics just doesn’t make sense.

Have seen each of the methods of catalysis and can refute each? That’d be thoroughly educational|entertaining|enthralling to see.

[Just remembered before posting… didn’t one method use a combination of lasers and plasma… one of the cavitation methods… idk, been decades since looking into this stuff. Hazy tidbits of memories for the curious and studious to chase if they want. … (Perhaps futilely) hoping websearch not so censored as cannot find this stuff any more. ~ Had to dig 100s of pages deep into search results even back then.]

Even before learning more about the states of matter that water can get into (including recent stuff on it being two different liquid states simultaneously), the magnetic alignment method has fascinated me (~ in passing… I’ve run no tests ~ dear industry, pls leave me be. lol.). It would be great to share an exploration of the various ranges, of state conditionals; of energy levels, types, frequencies and wave shapes; of cavitation, aperture, geometry; of ortho water and para water, ratios thereof; of water isotopes; ratios thereof; of impurities, solutes, salinity, ionisation, pH; and so on. To really draw out the more complete matrix of water’s potential (~ at least in the mundane material utility sense). [/*dreamer*]

Anyways, the claims are out there. Mere nay-saying is an unsatisfactory replacement for refutation, especially amidst conflicts of interest and dogmatic world views that salaries depend upon. Closed minds are never wrong.

I hope the water thing is /s

Why do you want that to be sarcasm?

Wouldn’t you prefer that to be true??

You hope differently to me.

Water powered car’s been invented more than just that once with the famous Stanley Meyer story. Y’know those blow torch thingies, that use water? Yeah, same basic principle. And remember in that special episode of Top Gear (I think it was maybe the Myanmar episode), where Hammond put a little water in his engine (in with the fuel) to give it more go at altitude? Same principle as many of the "water powered car"s use, where instead of (afaiu) electromagnetic alignment catalyst, they use chemical catalysts (and other starters and combustants etc), to which some eager naysayers throw the baby out with the bathwater and proclaim it all bunk because those designs were not using pure water. … I’m not sure any use entirely pure water, do they? Didn’t even Stanley Meyers design involve some kind of other chemical in the mix too? I’m not looking into it any further than is popularly known. I don’t want to be mistaken for an inventor, attracting the attention of the ruthless unscrupulous sorts with a lot invested in their rentier ride. ;)

Amusing aside… can haz steam powered car too. ;) Too contrived to call that water powered? Hehe. Even a Stirling engine?

Heeh! :D I’ve just had effectively the exact same thing, except for advertising. “Mind control does not exist” they said, to the face of one saying they used to be one of those doing it!

It’s not!? :O

;)

I find it hard to be enthused for trains, trams, and busses any more, since discovering over 20 years ago that clean energy and many other technologies and man-made innovations have been suppressed to maintain out dependence on scarce polluting energy because it’s easier to put a meter on to extract rents by. … So much so… y’know we could have had spaceships each since the 1930s? T Townsend Brown was not the first nor the leading pinnacle. Even back to the mid 1800s, when they were rigging their hot air balloons with faraday cages and high freq e.m. fields to reduce, and even eliminate inertia [… 1 small vacuum-proofing hop, and you have rudimentary interstellar flight capabilities]… … we never needed rockets, we never needed planes. … we don’t really need buses either. Or cars.

But if we make a nice world, buses still could be very nice to have.

Semi-subway trains too.

And cars even too. Track day, anyone? :)

Whole lot of vertical space unused in this world [and beyond]. We have so much headroom without the crooks holding us down. Heck! Even the crooks, even with their billions and trillions, would be better off, if we availed, each and all, all the emancipatory technologies.

Y’know we could have had spaceships each since the 1930s, right?

Or even just running our cars on seed oils, like hempseed oil, or plant derived ethanol.

Or even just running our cars on water.

… If they’d stop killing inventors and stop abusing the patent system to secretize emancipatory technologies.

This reminds me of Bill Hicks’ bit about future advertising, how in the future there’d be an advert where it’s just a view of a beautiful woman, and the camera pans back, revealing she’s topless, camera pans further back, completely naked, and her legs are apart, and her fingers spreading her lips apart, and it just says “Drink Coke”. … “No I don’t know the association. Yes I’m buying the product.” I guess we’re already past that future.

And cabbage, on the top shelf, not in the bottom drawer!?

Are the top shelf items helping maintain the problem?

I never went that route, when I had that problem.

For months, I was on 4L of Dr Pepper a day, and never realised I had a problem, until the day I drank 9L in 24 hours. … I never thought about sticking those top shelf items anywhere though. Does that ease the constipation?

Quick side note regarding:

Now I know what to watch on my day off!

Don’t judge it by season 1, when it was still finding its feet. It’s worthy, past whatever scruffy shabbiness of early season 1.

… fairly obviously not. LOL. Key piece of evidence, I’m still alive.

gotta curl the pelvis forward at the right moment