• ChunkMcHorkle
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    No, they really don’t. What they want is to feel better, and for their therapist to stop playing “no shit Sherlock” with their pain by pointing out obvious irrelevancies in regard to it.

    What they want to hold onto is the very specific, unique truth to their grief that is invariably found behind the anger. When they find it, that very specific point or points fueling the rage, they no longer need the anger: it has served its purpose.

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      That’s not in the post though. It might be true but the post is saying they want to stay angry (until society properly deals with the fallout from the pandemic). Anything else is your interpretation based on what might seem logical but without even knowing them.

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        Lol, no. Why would this writer by choice be paying a therapist his time and cash to painfully bare his soul so that the therapist can say idiotic things to him and not just assist him in remaining exactly where he is, but actively make it worse?

        Dude, he could get that for free (and probably already is from friends and family telling him he needs to “move forward” like that’s just a decision he can make).

        Look again. That person is simply telling the therapist they will not release their anger just because society has said it’s been long enough. That’s just not how it works, and this writer knows it. The writer will release the anger when the anger has served its purpose. That is not accomplished with facile lies, much less casual grief-shaming.

        Frankly, a therapist should know what purpose anger serves off the top of their head: that alone would guide them forward. Not everyone does, and that’s okay, just not so much in a therapist.

        But when you can’t recognize a overt cry of anguish and grief, and you mistake someone correcting their therapist from that place of inner agony for someone that “wants to stay angry,” all you’re really telling me is that you’ve never had a situation like the writer’s, nor a therapist that could take you through your darkest hour and help you see what you needed to see to get back out of the cave of your grief again.

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            I know this comes as news to you, but this has all been studied literally since the beginning of time. Anger was discussed by the earliest philosophers. The writer openly describes it himself.

            So what’s the diagnosis I’ve provided? Do you even know what an diagnosis is, or is that just a word you threw at me because it sounded smart and – wait for it – you’re angry?

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        It’s not saying that they want to stay angry, it’s that being angry about it is righteous and justified, and everyone should be angry enough about it to prevent something like it from ever happening again. But half of people still don’t even acknowledge covid was real, nevermind the social issues it exposed. Being angry is a reasonable response.

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          And I agree that it’s reasonable. Which, in my mind, translates directly to “I don’t want to stop being angry, stop trying to make me calm down.”

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            I think it’s more “stop telling me that being angry isn’t an appropriate response to current social issues.” The therapist could be working on coping strategies or mindfulness techniques to deal with the anger in constructive ways.

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              I don’t know if that’s what the therapist is saying. But even if so, the patient needs to be (or at least try to be) clear with what they’re hoping to achieve in therapy. If the therapist is ignoring what OOP has told them, that would be the problem but we don’t know if that’s what’s happening.