Reposting because it was removed from another comm earlier for the political content.

  • khepri
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    10 hours ago

    he wouldn’t have been an American-style MAGA conservative, that’s for sure. “Let thy government abduct thy neighbors because they don’t have paperwork” is hard to imagine him saying…

  • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
    3·
    13 hours ago

    He converts C into Rust which is also 200% more efficient

    The problem is, being omnipotent, he has intimate knowledge of every commercial product that has and will ever exist, so he automatically loses any lawsuit

  • Etterra@discuss.onlineEnglish
    7·
    21 hours ago

    He literally mass produced food for a crowd and gave it away for free. Fucking conservatives haven’t read their own manual, they just memorize some parts they like.

  • wheezy@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    1 day ago

    The amount of Bible verses with Jesus absolutely condemning the rich and the wealthy is overwhelming. And it’s not like “oh that’s open to interpretation”. He’s very clear in saying that rich people won’t go to heaven. He’s very clear in what to do with your money (help the poor and sinners).

    His entire message is about “living as he lived”. It’s amazing how much Christians in America have been able to completely remove all of those aspects by just saying “well, Jesus did that so we don’t have to. He died living a selfless life. All we have to do is ‘believe the story’”.

    It has to be the laziest, most American interpretation of a religion ever. It’s just fucking embarrassing to me though. Like, Im not Christian, but even I am embarrassed by most American Christians.

    There are exceptions. But, most Americans use their Christianity as a shield for being shit people. Their religion isn’t even Christianity, it’s capitalism, and worship of wealth. The Christians that go to church every week are much more interested in hearing their pastor talk about how Trump is enacting gods plan. They know talking points for why Trump’s not a pedophile, why Musk is a genius, or why trans kids in sports are destroying the economy. They couldn’t tell you what Jesus said about where Christians should “store their riches”. They’d probably say “a bank or a safe”.

    • FrChazzz@lemmus.orgEnglish
      32·
      1 day ago

      I’m a priest (Episcopal Church) and one of the things that I frequently remind my parishioners is that Christianity is intended to be a practice, not a belief. What’s happened is that the term “Christian” has been severed from any concrete form of practice (by utilizing the whole “faith, not works” thing and misconstruing it). When Jesus says “I am the way, the truth, and the life” He’s using active language (a way can only be walked, truth sought, life lived). But so many Christians have turned that saying into something about precepts.

      • Shindo66
        6·
        1 day ago

        It’s the biggest thing about Christianity, its supposed to be a philosophy that you live your life on, not a get of jail free card or to sell you indulgences. One of the best books I’ve ever read was “christ vs religion” by Witness Lee. God came in the flesh to give us a way of life.

  • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
    81·
    1 day ago

    Jesus was all about becoming ungovernable. He said to stop using money and avoid storehouses so the tax man will have nothing to easily take. To let go of the temples and leaders so they cannot be used as tools of control. To use the laws of the oppressor against them

    I don’t think Jesus would be generally pro FOSS, because it’s primarily funded by and taken advantage of by corporations. He was a revolutionary, he’d probably be going around helping people live outside the system

    • grue
      5·
      1 day ago

      I don’t think Jesus would be generally pro FOSS, because it’s primarily funded by and taken advantage of by corporations.

      Geez, Picard Maneuver’s comment was bad enough, but you just had to go and twist the knife!

      At least copyleft-licensed (e.g. GPL), as opposed to permissively-licensed (e.g. BSD), Open Source software is about as anti-corporate as it’s possible to get. That’s why Apple switched from bash to zsh, for example: they wanted to get rid of the copyleft. It’s also why stuff like Alpine Linux is a dangerous trend.

      I think Jesus would be very fond of copyleft licensing, as it is specifically designed to withhold control from those who would exploit it and thus keep users ungovernable.

      • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
        21·
        24 hours ago

        That’s why I said generally…copy left is great, I totally support it. But it also has the issue that without corporate donations, it’s hard for developers

        Jesus’s whole thing was breaking out of the system through community though. Why would he care about most software? He’d probably try to get people off screens to engage more with the people around them

        • grue
          2·
          21 hours ago

          Alpine Linux swaps out GNU libc, GNU coreutils, and systemd for musl, BusyBox, and OpenRC, which have weaker licensing (MIT, GPLv2-only, and 2-clause BSD respectively, vs. GPLv3+ for the GNU stuff and LGPLv2.1+ for systemd). Part of the reason for it is to be lighter and smaller to be more useful for embedded systems and containers, but it also has the effect of making it more attractive to corporate exploitation.

          In general, the more popular permissively-licensed stuff gets compared to strong-copyleft stuff, the easier it is for corporate bad actors to do things like TiVoize it or go closed-source entirely.

          • diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            11·
            20 hours ago

            The software was already corporately exploited. Not much lost here. In fact, I would argue that BSD licensing keeps projects more free of corporate influence if started by hobbyists.

            Corpo forks BSD/Apache/whatever software, doesn’t publish source, nerds don’t use it and look for the original, the end.

            Corpo forks copyleft software, publishes releases on GutHib with literal zip files in the repo semi annually. Original maintainer gets taunted with “but the corpo one has feature X, the code is free, you should use it”. If they don’t merge it, they get labeled an egoist and people go use the corporate one. If they do merge it, eventually the entire project gets bloated and barely readable, is held together by @redhat.com patches, and eventually all development is just corporate decisions. There’s no escape.

            You know, we are all victims of it ourselves. I am using Firefox rn. There was little to no “conversion” as they started out corporate. They have patches merged from the Tor people for actual privacy, although removed from the settings because “meh, nobody would want that” (sponsors would disapprove). The privacy they are marketing for normies is a list of like 20 domains.

            Yeah uh so we are very private by default, there’s no google tracking but if a site loads an ad or a youtube embed there’s google tracking, also we block embeds for privacy except specifically youtube.

            It’s all corporate decisions. While I don’t use the specific variant(s) and didn’t observe it, I once saw the Firefox home page on someone else’s device. It was football stats followed by “sponsored links”. I thought it was Edge for a second.

            And there’s no escape. Web pages are no longer actual pages oftentimes, they are fat blobs of 3 language conversions on top of each other targeting only the specific 3 (sometimes 2) big brand web browsers as the backend: Firefox, Chromium and Apple’s Webkit fork. They are all corporate. The fat blob generates are also corporate.

    • 0xDREADBEEF@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      21·
      18 hours ago

      Jesus was a failed prophet who kept saying heaven will arrive on earth imminently (“this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened”—that generation passed and none of those things he predicted would happen did) and it never did and trashed a temple because of his beliefs and that got him killed by the state. He literally trashed the temple because that was a prophecy he proclaimed and tried to fulfill it. He also said to get into heaven when the world ended was to be good and not to be rich so he was quite the populist in that respect.

      If he were alive today he’d be a youtuber talking about UFOs and aliens coming to save humanity because they hate nukes and saying that all we have to do is be good people to have the aliens save us. And he probably uses open source software too.

      Learning about the bible made me the agnostic I am today haha, but I wont go as far to say that there is nothing beyond death. I have no idea where humans get consciousness from and why Im not living my life as an ant and am instead living as a human being in the 2026th year of our lord

    • MinnesotaGoddamEnglish
      31·
      1 day ago

      He said to stop using money

      “Render unto Caesar” seems to be the opposite. He said to stop owning shit.

      • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
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        24 hours ago

        He said to give up the coin they have and no longer use money between them. To share freely, so that Cesar couldn’t extract tax income from them in any way

        When the tax man shows up, you give them whatever they want and leave them frustrated. You return the coins you have to Cesar, and without stockpiles of goods the tax man would have to go house to house collecting random goods. You have no money to take, no grainary to take a portion of

        An empire can’t run off taking miscellaneous things from each pantry

        • captainlezbian
          1·
          13 hours ago

          Yeah the concept of coins was still a very political topic at the time. They were a relatively recent invention that completely changed how society interacted

  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netEnglish
    12·
    1 day ago

    By modern contexts Christ was a leader in a workers rebellion against colonial rule, who imbued it with a spiritual angle so profound that it very arguably destroyed or completely reformed the colonizer centuries after his execution.

    And FOSS is overtly a leftist paradigm and way of thinking.

    Yeah Jesus would have probably digged FOSS but what the heyo is this meme setup. You’re just trolling with this.

    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
      6·
      1 day ago

      Christ was a leader in a workers rebellion against colonial rule, who imbued it with a spiritual angle so profound that it very arguably destroyed or completely reformed the colonizer centuries after his execution.

      Eh… Tbh Jesus wasn’t much of a political revolutionary, more of a cultural one. He did condemn the tyranny of gentiles, but also urged his followers to pay their taxes to rome and to obey their demands. Saying if a Roman asks you to carry something one mile, carry it for two instead.

      It seems like he was just trying to keep under the Roman radar and worked more to change the culture of local Jewish communities.

      Jesus would have probably digged FOSS

      Probably wouldn’t really care about technology very much unless it was being used to feed the poor. He’d probably be horrified how far we have progressed with technology, but are still failing to provide basic care for the needy.

      • nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz
        2·
        1 day ago

        Saying if a Roman asks you to carry something one mile, carry it for two instead.

        This sounds like malicious compliance. What boss is happy if you put something down a mile from where they asked you to put it? That’s a discussion in a 1:1 at least.

        • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
          3·
          17 hours ago

          I think it was more of a metaphor of getting them to subvert roman expectations. Romans thought of the Jewish people as very stubborn and independent, so when forcing them to do manual labor they would usually expect it to lead to confrontation.

        • MinnesotaGoddamEnglish
          3·
          1 day ago

          It was more of a “prove how strong you are even though they think you are weak, but do it in subversive and unexpected ways” thing, but I am jumbling five different religious traditions including one pagan together so take it with a grain of salt

  • FrChazzz@lemmus.orgEnglish
    16·
    1 day ago

    Scholars have long been mystified by what Jesus (who famously did not leave any autobiographical writings) was writing on the ground with his finger in John 8:6. Turns out it was early code for an open-source network based storage option.