How is “wait 24 hours before installing an app” Android less corporate/authoritarian than Windows? Plus most Android devices are stuck running Android whereas you can always replace Windows with Linux
I think they meant the AOSP but technically most people also call that Android
AOSP, the operating system that nobody actually installs on anything. It’s about as niche as could possibly be, considering the only reason you’d install it is to work on the code.
For aesthetic reasons the chart only allows one OS per square, and any other arrangement would put Windows dangerously low. At least Android is mostly open-source.
There’s two squares for windows.
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Android is not mostly open source. Have you seen how incredibly limited AOSP is? It’s basically useless without all of the closed source parts Google puts on top.
“Open source unlike iOS”
Lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU
https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/distribution-macOS
AOSP hasn’t been a complete operating system in a long time, so don’t tell me Android is open source. It’s open source in the same way iOS is, the way that doesn’t matter.
To be fair though, you can build a more open android distribution like Graphene or Lineage, which you can’t do with iOS. Still an awful platform though
Come back when they have user flash-able, daily drivable forks.
Lol.
“Some people don’t like snap”. I had the suspicion is was most people don’t like snap.
I’m yet to find a person who likes Snap, actually. Even if you prefer that way of installation, people just go to Flatpak.
I am a person who likes the snap package over some flatpaks. Mostly because the snap integration is sometimes better. Like handling copy/paste or notification bubbles.
No one significant; just security people, system architects, build/release people and support people, because of all the best-practice it breaks. Who cares about those chumps?!?
*most end users.
Better?
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How the fuck did you manage to place Microsoft on a lower tier, Corporate-wise? They took the uber-corporatism that IBM had done and perfected it.
And if anything, Apple has been opening up for less corporatist approaches (okay, they’re legally forced, but at least they’re playing ball instead of forceful resistance).
at least they’re playing ball instead of forceful resistance
Uh what the fuck? In every case they’ve gotten better at all a law has absolutely been required to force them. But typically they don’t get better because typically with every new law they comply as maliciously as humanly possible.
You completely misunderstood what I said.
Yes, laws were required to make Apple do the logical thing. BUT the point is that instead of fighting those laws, Apple is actually implementing the required changes.
Meanwhile Google didn’t just remove the “don’t be evil” slogan, they’re actively enshittifying Android year on year. Is that the example you want Apple to follow?
But malicious compliance is absolutely fighting the laws. Plenty of legal ways to be shitty. Turns out I understood you perfectly because you’ve just stated the exact point again which I specifically was disagreeing with. That apple is not fighting the laws. Even if we ignore the malicious compliance you can be sure they’ve spend hundreds of billions over the years trying to stop laws or enforcement of laws that protect apple customers from apple. (No one is saying Google isn’t doing all of this too btw)
Is that the example you want Apple to follow?
I gotta say you don’t seem the most informed on this topic. Are you not aware that nearly every issue people have with Google, outside of ad/privacy concerns, is something they copied from apple? Removal of ports, reducing repairability, etc. Also right now Google is effectively looking to kill third party app stores. Which apple did from the start. In fact when the EU passed a law requiring apple to allow third party app stores, they complied maliciously as fuck. They made it so expensive to do so that no developer could publish an app outside the apple store without literally losing money even if the app was free, they still owe a steep fee, every year iirc.
Yeah and MacOS is not more locked down than ChromeOS. That shit is useless. At least you can mess with Unix and terminal commands on Macs
Also you can install it in hackintoshes but that’s not an official thing so I don’t fault that point.
This is a much better version than the last one.
Needs TempleOS outside of the box
TempleOS is outside of the box
Isn’t that it in the bottom left?
This is absolutely terrible.
No
TempleOS(never mind. It is there… but in the wrong place) no HannaMontanaLinux and you call it a meme? How dare you.TempleOS is at the bottom left, at the margin
Wrong place for it, God’s own OS should be maximum authority
Oh yeah. That’s right. But wrong place I think, like the other comment mentioned.
Likewise no jolla, considering Android is trying to create a walled garden like apple, and people are discussing alternatives lately
nixos is on the wrong side. literally funded by the United States’ war machine.
how does it compare to other distros on the chart?
e.g. i can imagine that many military people us RHEL (which already is on the appropriate place on the chart).
Arch Linux
- breaks if you don’t update it often enough
- breaks if you update
never happened to me on arch
has happened to me on cachyos tho, with plasma 6.6 (switching back to arch, plasma 6.6 has no issues)
This is the biggest bait ever hahaha.
Android below red hat in corporate/authoritarian and equal to Ubuntu 😂 the OS that is trying to take away installing apps not from them and trying to fully track app developers while not giving a damn about malware that effects the user because it doesn’t effect their bottom line?
Well, I guess AOSP vs Googles Android.
I think that GrapheneOS is an amazing underappreciated project and deserves more attention.
I think it’s overappreciated. There are alternatives that better fit the needs of most users, support more phone models and are developed by people more responsive to their users’ needs that Graphene.
GrapheneOS currently supports only Google Pixel devices because they are the only Android smartphones that meet all of its strict security requirements: an unlockable bootloader, proper verified boot implementation, state of the art security chip, and long-term, reliable security updates. Most other manufacturers either don’t provide these features or disable critical security functions when an alternative OS is installed.
But what I find particularly impressive is how efficiently the team operates: with likely fewer than 15 full-time developers, they consistently roll out updates within days, sometimes even ahead of Google’s official Android releases. I think the system is very balanced, a lot of the hardening stuff works in the background without really breaking anything. I had some troubles with very specific apps but most of the time it just works.
That said, their communication style and transparency can sometimes come across as aggressive or uncompromising. Pioneers in FOSS projects often prioritize progress and principle over diplomacy, and GrapheneOS is no exception.
I know all this. 99% of users are using less secure ROMs so clearly top-notch security is not a must have for most people. Saying that someone needs Graphene OS because of security while using other ROMs makes no sense.
Other ROMs are as good or better for privacy, come pre-installled on many devices including Fairphone and have features GrapheneOS devs refuse to add simply because they know better what users should use (like pattern unlock). GrapheneOS is great, I’m using it myself, but a lot of people behave like the only choice is between stock Android or GrapheneOS on a Pixel device while there are many other great options.
Can’t ague with that. You’re not wrong. I just liked to express my joy and a shout out to that incredible dev team behind GrapheneOS. That does not mean other roms are shit. Its just every other rom I tried over the years stoppt working at some point or the project silently died.
Putting Kali Linux, a Distro specifically for cybersecurity and hackers, anywhere near the “corporate” axis, could be considered a war crime in some places.
Suggestion for the top-right corner: ImmigrationOS by Palantir.
- Made for people too unfit and dumb for even be a police officer.
- Made for a literal genocide.
- Its devs and users will hopefully face consequences.
In the super niche and very corporate corner, you should put Windows Server, because nobody uses Windows fucking Server.
