Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It’s nice and cozy here, we do have some “bad parts of town” but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol

For your memes we have [email protected] if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like [email protected] and [email protected] and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic [email protected]

You can also drop a shit(post) off at [email protected] or hang out at [email protected] (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)

There’s much more around as well!

Obligatory, fuck Spez

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    Man you’re getting worse than the hexbear edgelords who just shit on the liberals all day, except at least they’re yelling at people in power and not some extremely marginal leftists who would be shot before they could ever take a seat in politics.

    A good rule of politics is if someone or an ideology that you don’t like and they have no power or connection to power just ignore them, especially if there on your side for 90% of actual relevant issues. Not theoretical issues that may pop up after the revolution that may never come.

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      A good rule of politics is if someone or an ideology that you don’t like and they have no power or connection to power just ignore them, especially if there on your side for 90% of actual relevant issues. Not theoretical issues that may pop up after the revolution that may never come.

      Sounds good, except I believe them to be actively harmful to the reputation of the Lemmy-verse, so it’s important to make a clear stand, if total defederation isn’t happening.

      I’d rather not Lemmy end up as another Voat. I’ve already seen tons of stories from the original rexit of “I tried Lemmy, but .ml/hex/grad seemed cringy/hostile so I left”

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        I think that people who choose corporate media, where /r/the_donald sentiments are actively reinforced by the corporation, over lemmy, because they found hex/grad/ml users “cringe/hostile” are not comparing things on a neutral basis.

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        the reputation of the Lemmy-verse

        As long as the main devs of Lemmy are Dessalines and other communists, then the reputation of the Lemmy-verse being tied to a bunch of highly communist instances is just an objectively correct fact. Liberals are free to fork their own version of the software and call it something else.

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          Tankies, they’re tankies, there’s nothing wrong with the theory of communism. What makes a Tankie, is the support of Authoritarian regimes and turning a blind eye to genocides and many other human rights violations when committed by said regimes

          And also, there’s nothing Tankie about Lemmy itself. It’s just computer code that is a Reddit-like link aggregator. It falls under separating the art from the artist. And because it’s open source, there’s no concern of financially supporting it either from its use (unless you make an explicit choice to donate)

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            What makes a Tankie, is the support of Authoritarian regimes and turning a blind eye to genocides and many other human rights violations when committed by said regimes

            That’s exactly what liberals of Lemmy do though.

            When was the last time you spoke against Zelensky’s regime, that literally turned my country into a concentration camp that people cannot leave and are kidnapped off the streets (and even fucking hospitals!) in front of their crying wives/mothers, to be sent into the meatgrinder and never be seen again?

            That’s a rhetorical question, of course you never did (and those who do, including me, are paid Russian shills, tankies or just bots). Because for a liberal, it’s never “authoritarianism bad” or “Nazism bad” or “human rights violations bad” or anything like this - it’s only bad when the other side is doing it. When “the good guys” are doing it, it’s not just totally acceptable, the guy is a hero.

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                    Liberals are literally more cruel than war.

                    A person that has even a slightest bit of compassion/empathy recognizes how bad war is and helps people flee the affected areas, ensures there are minimal casualties, supports ending the war.

                    Liberals have no compassion, no emapthy, they only pursue their goals no matter the human suffering. They support a dictator that stops people from fleeing the country, resulting in thousands of deaths and suffering people. They support people being kidnapped from the streets, homes and hospitals (the same people that they trapped there), and sent into the meatgrinder, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths. They would not mind the war going on until the very last Ukrainian is dead. They have no red lines.

                    Liberals make an already awful thing a level of magnitude worse. Liberals are worse than war.

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              He won’t speak against Zelensky’s regime, because he’s not opposed to fascists. He’s just trying to pretend his basic Sinophobia, and racism against Asians, is some kind of political philosophy.

              If they actually cared about “the reputation of Lemmy,” they wouldn’t be tying it to CIA propaganda.

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            I just think there’s a contradiction in a) continuing to use a platform that is developed primarily by Communists and b) thinking that the platform being associated with Communists “actively harmful to the reputation of the Lemmyverse”. The fact is that the Lemmyverse is associated with Communists - or “tankies” as you insist on calling them - and so if that’s its reputation then the reputation is accurate.

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              there’s no contradiction, because the developer does not matter. that’s the entire point of FOSS.

              it could be written by a literal nazi (not that there’s a big difference between brown and red fascists) and it wouldn’t matter one bit.

              that’s the entire beauty of FOSS!

              we ALL own the code.

              if Dessalines ever stops developing it, anyone can take over.

              if Dessalines implements code the community at large doesn’t like, anyone can create a fork and change that specific part and continue from there.

              we can see exactly what the code does, and can create new versions at any point.

              that was always the reason behind decentralized, open source networks:

              nobody can own it.

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                we ALL own the code

                No you don’t. As a user, you don’t get a share of the copyright of free software, you get a license (permission) from the copyright owner. The copyright owner owns the code, not all of you.

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                  i mean…yeah? kinda? on a technicality?

                  Developers that use our General Public Licenses protect your rights with two steps: (1) assert copyright on the software, and (2) offer you this License which gives you legal permission to copy, distribute and/or modify the software.

                  you assert the first part as fact and then kinda skip over the second part…at least that’s how i read your comment.

                  yes, the copyright owner (the creator) “owns” the work…but then immediately uses said ownership to explicitly allow everyone else to do just about anything with it, short of claiming it as one’s own creation.

                  you are the best kind of correct, but only that kind.