Pretty hilarious thread of the usual wacko banning people while admitting that they allowed the same behavior for kissinger. Many people point out the arbitrary, subjective nature. Many people banned. Thread locked.
Pretty hilarious thread of the usual wacko banning people while admitting that they allowed the same behavior for kissinger. Many people point out the arbitrary, subjective nature. Many people banned. Thread locked.
I wonder if hitler died during our time you will find those idiotic mods removing posts and comments celebrating his death
More than likely. @[email protected] has proven themselves to be pretty consistent and generally even handed with this for the most part. Whether or not you agree with the rule.
It’s not even a new rule or the first time it’s been protested here. If anyone feels it isn’t being applied fairly, make sure to report those that aren’t being caught. Then there would be something to complain about.
Reminder, this is the feddi. If the rule is that egridious, you can create your own community.
There are several similar communities already. Whatever Jordan and crew are doing over there seems to work for a lot of people. Make of that what you will.
I’m so frustrated. You’re totally correct, this whole post is one fair and completely accurate point, but I’m still so… frustrated.
Frustration is an absolutely normal and appropriate response. This is all very frustrating. Graham, mcconnell, Trump Etc they are all horrible people. And they will all undoubtedly make the world a better place by no longer being part of it.
Celebrating their deaths is cathartic but also pyrrhic. It doesn’t really accomplish anything. But on the other hand they can and do also celebrate death. Death of good people who did the bare minimum to try and hold them accountable. Like Trump celebrating Robert Mueller’s death. Not only that. They’re all so much more willing to kill the people they feel have wronged them. They’re celebrating the death of every person ICE has abducted or tried to right now.
It really just risks devolving into simple tribalism at some point. Cheering on or killing your people because you cheered about the death of theirs etc. They’re like chess playing pigeons. They’ll happily knock over all the pieces, shit all over the board, and strut around like they won. I can 💯% see why higher traffic larger communities want to stay clear of it generally.
But holding ourselves to higher standards doesn’t stop them or bind them as well. Frustration is the appropriate response. The correct response ultimately won’t be passively celebrating their deaths anyhow. It will have to be much more active if you get my meaning. I don’t think many people will ever be ready. But it’s the only actual chance for justice many of them will see. The system will do what it’s designed to do after all. Enable them and fail us.
You really have a way with words 😄
Yeah so consistent. He admitted that he temporally suspended the rule for Kissinger. He is very dogmatic too
I hate this argument a lot. Yeah you can use other communities because of the decentralization. It still doesn’t solve the network effect, most people keep posting on the biggest communities. I think big communities should have a voting systems to replace mods or keep them every year. I also have my own community so I am not just a complainer
They openly made an exception one time. That doesn’t seem very inconsistent. I agree that if you’re going to have rules and if those rules are supposed to be important. You shouldn’t be making it exceptions to them. It weakens them. But a lot of other people outside Kissinger have died. And there haven’t been any more exceptions that I’m aware of. I’m also not claiming total awareness either. If there are others point them out. That’s valid criticism.
Hate the argument all you want. Network effect is just an excuse not to try. That world news community wasn’t the first was it? Didn’t it face the network effect itself? I 100% use smaller communities in a number of instances to combat such effects. And I’m far from the only one.
Like I said I am trying and many other does it . It still a fact network effects exists and people gravitate to the biggest communities even if they don’t like the mod . I believe the lemmy.world worldnews is the second created worldnews community after the ml one which is managed by pro russia mods
Remind me again why we are down voting each other? We seem to be having a pretty reasonable conversation overall I think.
I’ve certainly never denied the existence of the network effect. Look for yourself you won’t find it. But it’s not just the network effect. I think plenty of people generally prefer not to have things generally give way into celebration of death and general hate parties. Especially when it comes to larger communities. It’s probably a general bonus not to have it for them. To be frank I’m not really aware of many larger communities that don’t have that at least as a unspoken if not enumerated rule. And honestly for myself that’s fine. I have no shortage of places I can go to do that sort of thing if I want to on the fediverse. Though ironically for that very reason many of them are fairly small.
I’m not saying Lund is perfect by any stretch. I don’t think any of us are. That this is getting a bit of a ridiculous dead horse to keep beating. That’s a completely different issue. Also with respect to the network effect. With Lemmy 1.0 looking to have crosspost grouping/consolidation IIRC. The network effect is about to get a lot weaker regardless.