But they never said they don’t care about pronouns. In fact they have very strongly stated that they extremely do care about pronouns
Twitter: set up strawman; knock it down. Gain followers. Rinse, repeat.
True, the one I always think was strange was when I was 6? I had a 1st grade teacher that was adamant we addressed her and others by the correct form of Ms/Miss/Mrs.
I was 6, I shouldn’t have to care at all which adults are romantically involved nor which government documents theyve signed.
Their insecurities not only live rent free in their head, they’ve turned the whole place into a slum for stupid ideas
FR I thought the meme was maybe some sort of anti-christian-trans meme like some sort of church for trans out there would hypothetically get peeved about God’s pronouns specifically?
Pure fever dream nonsense.
I think the point is they don’t respect pronouns. They misgender trans people, so misgender their god. Or misgender them! See how they like it.
Ask them how big God’s dick is. Tell them you’re serious. Make then explain how that’s a ridiculous question. Then ask them: if God’s gender identity isn’t tied to genitals, why do they insist on doing it?
Could God microwave
a burritohis penis so hot that not even he couldn’t eat it?Edit: her penis.
Could God’s dick be so big, that he himself could not lift it? Then he is not all powerful.
Mmm-hmm, oh yeah, me too. (Umm… what song?)
Idk the cool way to share music on Lemmy
“Myyy COCK is much BIGGER THEN YOUUUUURS!”
Let me discuss dick sizes with Gramma, I’ll brb!
I’ve seen God, and she was black.
Buffalo wins a Superbowl in this timeline… 😢
AMEN. 😤😤😤
I’ve seen God, and I swear on my life he was a black man driving a Cadillac.
She looks and sounds just like Whoopi Goldberg.
Are we sure it just wasn’t gender-swapped Morgan Freeman?
I take issue with the depiction of God as black or she. When I saw God they had no skin color, because they were not in a form that would ever require skin and they were all genders and none at the same time. Might have been the psychadelics, but I like that interpretation.
I think prefixing Christian god is better. Every time “well thank Christian god you’re alright”, just subtly remind them there’s other religions, they don’t like that
I’m not under your god’s jurisdiction.
After looking at Hinduism, I thought “Yeah, having only one god is pretty boring”. I’m sure that’s why the Catholic church came up with the concept of saints. They’re like demi-gods.
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The character of god is basically the ultimate shape shifter. For a being capable of shaping reality with just a thought, I gotta think such a being would be in a pretty constant phase of modifying itself, not just it’s reality.
“He” vs “she” doesn’t even scratch the tip of the iceberg when you look at god’s arsenal of gender and sex characteristics - just look at some of the crazy shit it put here on earth. And I mean all of it, from the familiar dangly bits in our own pants to like a lizard’s cloaca, to pollinators, etc.
You know the whole “biblically accurate angel” spiel with the trippy shifting eyes? I gotta think god’s junk is a similar kaleidoscopic amalgamation of scrotums, clitorises, corkscrew duck penises, pollen, etc; all covered with a hefty amount of pubic hair and buckets of mucous.
Amen.
The created God is indeed the ultimate shapeshifter. They can be whatever those who imagine them imagine then as.
familiar dangly bits in our own pants
Speak for yourself, there’s nothing familiar about whatever is going on down there.
I think you might actually be god.
I’ve been trying to tell people that for ages.
I am curious, historically was God referred to by he, she, or it?
Afaik the English version of the lore has always been ‘he’. The original story according to the original language though, idk.
…I’d guess the original also used masculine pronouns though, mostly because of the whole triune thing - their ‘god’ is actually three critters rolled into one. There’s the ‘father’ or what most people mean by the word ‘god’, the ‘son’ or ‘Jesus’, and ‘the holy spirit’ which is basically The Force from Star Wars.
I don’t recall a sex or gender ever being assigned to The Force, but even if it is canonically female, the sausage fest from the other two would still tip the scales into ‘he/him’ territory.
They/them is probably the most accurate even of the lore itself doesn’t use it - between the three, god is gender fluid. Volatilely so if we’re going with the kaleidoscopic dance in the pants that is my preferred head canon (there’s nothing in that book that suggests this isn’t the case, and believing based on the lack of disproof is the whole basis for their cult in the first place, so I’m rolling with it!).
My Allah* bless for taking the time to answer me.
Edit: Or God, whatever rocks your boat
Same character, different fiction.
GOD IS genderless though, but evangelicals think its a MAN. several movies had made it a woman, to troll how stupid these people are.
they got upset about how angels are not masculinized, like god they are technically genderless, only not within a host.
Every god is made up and can be whatever gender you want it to be, hun
Yeah no shit, God is imaginary, congratulations you get it. Stop treating every believer you meet like they’re fresh out of Sunday school and literally think of God as a literal magic sky fairy.
Thanks for the reminder to rewatch Dogma
The true god cares not what your fleshy bits or squishy bits say is your pronouns. The true god only cares how many dreadnought rated artillery cannons are plugged directly into your brainstem.
I serve the Omnissiah.
The flesh is weak, but steel endures.
Amen brother.
I used to do exactly this when referring to the generic all-being (as opposed to the Abrahamic god who has a history and a feminine consort), since biological sex is specific to individual species. Also, the X-gamete is the default. The Y-gamete is a weird shortened appendix.
Technically, they/them would be more appropriate in this gender-conscious era. It works better for the holy trinity as well, but that’s a post-biblical addition to the Christian dogma.
They/them would be more accurate since the god from the Bible is a mixture of different bronze age gods. Did you notice how God is something shown as bloodthirsty and sometimes as benevolent? That is because they took myths and stories from different gods.
Did that unknowingly when I was a teen, wondered why it is a he, can’t be a she because we are talking about a spirit basically.
Like many languages, languages of the Bible like Hebrew and Greek have grammatical genders. The aspect of God that smites things is grammatically male. The aspect of God that conveys spiritual strength - usually translated as “the Holy Spirit” - is grammatically female. Progressive movements of Protestantism and Judaism see God as both genders: one of the two creation stories in Genesis states God created man AND woman in God’s image. The focus on the male aspect of God, and the second creation story in Genesis with the rib thing, is a conservative movement hang-up and not a general religion thing.
Of course the male part just smites things…
In his image, is a spiritual image. He gave us a rational soul.
Spirits and souls are not real.
Try to develop a rational mind, please, your cult is killing us.
they are
All you do to others is “source?” “verses?”
And yet when you make a claim, you provide absolutely nothing.
There is no evidence supporting what you are saying.
Pseudoscience. At least they try to define “soul”:
It’s said to be the ultimate animating principle by which we think and feel but isn’t dependent on the body.
They are referring to consciousness, which is dependent on the body (or at least the brain).
Yet, the current scientific paradigm doesn’t recognize this spiritual dimension of life.
Right. Because there is no evidence for it.
It’s considered the incorporeal essence of a person and is said to be immortal and transcendent of material existence.
Psycho shit.
Everything knowable about the “soul” can be learned by studying the functioning of the brain. In their view, neuroscience is the only branch of scientific study relevant to understanding the soul.
Right… because souls don’t exist. They are describing consciousness.
While neuroscience has made tremendous progress illuminating the functioning of the brain, why we have a subjective experience remains mysterious.
Does it? Our subjective experience is part of the illusion of consciousness.
This is god of the gaps, but for souls.
Although the current scientific paradigm is based on the belief that the world has an objective observer-independent existence, real experiments suggest just the opposite.
Oh no. Time to misunderstand quantum mechanics.
Until observed, they have no real existence; only when the mind sets the scaffolding in place, can they be thought of as having duration or a position in space.
Wrong. It likely has nothing to do with a mind. The honest answer is that we don’t know yet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment#Interpretations_of_the_experiment
The results not only defy our classical intuition but suggest that a part of the mind — the soul — is immortal and exists outside of space and time.
“The hope of another life,” wrote Will Durant, “gives us courage to meet our own death, and to bear with the death of our loved ones; we are twice armed if we fight with faith.”
And we are thrice armed if we fight with science.
Faith is a failure to perform science. This article is just more human wishful thinking. They haven’t proven a soul, they’ve leapt to a conclusion despite a lack of evidence.
God says right in the bible that they are enby.
Look I think religion is stupid but so is this strawman feelgoodsy argument. So disappointing.
Yeah, they’re more of a he/Him/it anyway
It’s not an argument? How did you get an argument out of this?
It’s implying that there’s some sort of hypocrisy or logical contradiction with Christians suddenly caring about pronouns being correct when it applies to God. But that entire premise is wrong, because as someone else eloquently stated, they never claimed not to care about pronouns, in fact they care about them probably more than most transgender people. They just care about them being their version of “right”. The post is very clearly meant to be some sort of gotcha or serve to Christianity. But there is no gotcha, so the whole post is stupid. Really picture the exchange:
A: “I love God, I’m so thankful for how she’s blessed me.”
C: “She? God is a man. He blessed you.”
A: “Ohhh, so now you care about getting pronouns right, but not for someone like Elliot Page, huh?”
C: “No, I always care about getting pronouns right. That’s why God is a He and Page is a she, and it pisses me off if you say either of those differently”
???
So with that in mind, we can see this post is just someone owning an imaginary strawman.
Well, it’s really about misgendering. They’re misgendering God, just like they’re misgendering Elliot Page. Elliot Page wants to be called he/him and they want God to be called he/him.
But to the Christians, misgendering is defined as calling someone by the pronouns they “actually aren’t”, so they would consider he/him pronouns to be misgendering Page. Their notion of misgendering has nothing to do with what the person wants to be called, it has to do with what they fundamentally are. So from that point of view, there’s no contradiction in their reasoning. It’s internally consistent, and so there’s no “revelation” (ha ha) where they’re trapped into looking like a fool as this imaginary Twitter post scenario implies. So this whole hypothetical demonstration of calling God a girl still goes nowhere. Go back to my initial dialogue. See how there’s no next response for the atheist, how it ends with the atheist having nothing to say? That’s why the Le Epic Win in the original post is not what it’s presented to be. Its a bad argument. The argument is implicit, but it’s there. It’s the entire content of the post.
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It was also translated from ancient Hebrew and Greek, not sure how exactly those languages handle gendered and gender neutral pronouns.
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Came across interesting idea mentioning that in original Hebrew, when we call God is “one” (Deuteronomy 6:4, the Jewish Shema) they use the word “echad” meaning something more complicated than one singular thing, so like the unity of multiple. Other times that word is used is when God created first day and first night, combining them into “one” day-cycle. And also when describing man and woman becoming “one” in marriage.
So it’s not so far fetched for some to argue that God is both male and female, similar to Taoism’s idea of yin-yang. I personally think they’re describing the same concept from different angles. But those Christians believing in the trinity might beg to differ.
I’m not Christian, but I do find studying world religions very fascinating.
Why would God be limited by gender? This is such a weird belief to have. Doesn’t need a physical form, isn’t limited by space or time, but is always male…somehow.
Also, a lot of these same people believe that your genitalia determines what your gender is. Which means that they believe that God has a cock and balls. How can you have a cock and balls when you don’t have a body?
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Only because “he” can be gender neutral in English. Singular “they” is old but has never really been popular. The original languages don’t have gendered pronouns.
Singular “they” is old but has never really been popular.
What are you talking about? People use singular “they” all the time.
Not nearly everybody, and it’s more popular now than ever.
Greek and Hebrew definitely do have gendered pronouns. Though Hebrew generally prefers suffixes, they’re certainly gendered. Interestingly Greek also has a neuter gender in both pronouns and nouns. A better argument might be that God’s gender is self-defined, rather than on a biological basis.
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