[two characters are talking]
Vaccines have saved millions of lives you know

[a blue character points at them proudly]
Heh, look at those idiots over there, they believe in the most obvious propaganda

[the blue character is shown doing various faces]
Anyway, did you know communism killed 100 million people?
I’ve seen that 20% of the people commit 80% of the crime
Our military keeps the world a safer place
Everyone starts with opportunities, you have to earn your place in society, work harder

[sixteen variations of the blue character are shown on a multicolored grid]
Crime is out of control and keeps getting worse
Men are natural leaders, women’s nature is to nurture
Billionaires create jobs
Poor people just keep making bad decisions in life
Migrants are taking our jobs
Socialism is when we all share the same paycheck
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear
If minimum wages go up, everyone will get fired, it’s math
We brought modernity to the countries we colonized
The wage gap is a myth you’re just looking at it wrong
Immigration mathematically causes crime
Developing countries are poor because of corruption
We are the good guys
If workers were worth more, they would be paid more
Universal healthcare is communism
Patriotism means supporting the troops

[a large drawing of a serious Garfield is surrounded by the infinitely repeating phrase]
YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA

https://thebad.website/comic/trust_no_one_not_even_yourself

  • 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip
    24·
    23 days ago

    communism did kill millions of people. people aware of that fact are not idiots, they are the people who paid attention in school. capitalism also does have problems, but these problems does not change the fact that communism did kill millions of people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

    thank you for playing, better luck next time 😂

    • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
      61·
      23 days ago

      It’s only whataboutism if I’m using one to defend the other, instead of just challenging D students to understand that their main mode of arguing against communism is a double edged sword that cuts harder against capitalism than it does against communism.

      The problem is you are holding communism to a standard you’re refusing to hold capitalism to. And until you do that, the 100 MilLiOn people claim is meaningless and worthy of mockery, given it’s an attack on a political ideology that only exists to strawman the ideology.

      • 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip
        12·
        23 days ago

        100 MilLiOn people claim is meaningless and worthy of mockery

        if course, such a thing as millions of dead can’t stand in the way of building communist heaven.

        • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          23 days ago

          100 MilLiOn people claim is meaningless and worthy of mockery

          No surprise you cut out the next bit:

          given it’s an attack on a political ideology that only exists to strawman the ideology.

          Strawmen are all you have, which is blindingly obvious. Or you could prove me wrong and explain to me how the “communism deaths” are in any way relevant without including that of capitalism.

          We both know you can’t. So I’ll continue

          challenging D students to understand that their main mode of arguing against communism is a double edged sword that cuts harder against capitalism than it does against communism.

            • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              22 days ago

              Awww, is the D student upset that they can’t even begin to defend their point so they resort to insults and throwing around logical fallacies they don’t understand? Asking you to prove how a strawman assertion is relevant is not whataboutism, nor is it whataboutism to point out that your argument can’t withstand its own strawman standards. Also, you’re committing the Fallacy Fallacy, and you aren’t even trying to support why my argument is fallacious and not relevant, which is itself a fallacy (see also thought terminating cliche). (See, this is how you call out someone for using fallacious logic)

              It’s cute you think anyone challenging your brainless Bircherist propaganda is a tankie, makes it easy to not have to think at all. Makes it all the more obvious that you know you can’t support your argument. Watching your type flail when they get a modicum of pushback is always amusing.

              • 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip
                11·
                22 days ago

                Awww, is the D student upset that they can’t even begin to defend

                no, the D student is here whining “iT is anTIcOMmUNISt PROPAgANdA, WE nEveR Killed aNYone and aNYwaY, thE CAPitALIsM iS ALSO Bad!”

                for your own good, i hope you are 12 years old, because then you have a chance to grow up. i won’t be replying to you anymore.

                • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  22 days ago

                  no, the D student is here whining “iT is anTIcOMmUNISt PROPAgANdA, WE nEveR Killed aNYone and aNYwaY, thE CAPitALIsM iS ALSO Bad!”

                  The D student needs to go to remedial reading, cuz that’s not remotely close to what I said.

                  for your own good, i hope you are 12 years old, because then you have a chance to grow up.

                  I hope the same for you, cuz then at least you’d have a chance to grow out of your idiotic, one track propaganda arguments. Maybe you’d even be able to read and respond to arguments actually being made.

                  i won’t be replying to you anymore.

                  You promise?