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  • I think we’d be in a much more agreeable place if we just legally state that a commercial AI tools training isn’t fair use.

    Good luck getting any federal law changes through before 2028, at best. So, for at least a couple of years, we get to use the existing laws to address generative “AI”'s use of works still under copyright protection.

    Any change in status before then we be policy changes by the U.S. Copyright Office, but they have already come down against training (mostly; the publications are long because there’s a lot of nuance).





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    browser fingerprinting

    Thing is, while it wasn’t called “browser fingerprinting” immediately, it basically started as soon as JS was around. And feature-detection / media-queries actually make for better compatibility than just User-Agent strings (and other headers).

    Content negotiation never really caught on, as best as I can tell. There’s a number of headers that the client can send so that the server can select a version by language, content-type, and a few other things, but in all the web deployments I’ve ever done content-negotiation was never a consideration.

    Almost any information can be abused.


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    I’ve not seen evidence of it in any of my interactions with generative AI, which have pretty universally been bad. I feel like it has something to do with autonomous spontaneity. I recognize it in animals I can’t communicate well with, but I found it lacking in the LLM that I tried to play a TTRPG with. It would be easier for me to be convinced, if I really had a better understanding of what thought is. It’s hard for me to be convinced because while I understand LLMs and diffusion networks better than most people*, I don’t think I understand thought so I recognize the gap.

    Also I’m not sure I agree with your final assertion, the stoner buddy is plenty wrong, but there is a coherency there. When coherency disappears entirely from human thought that’s usually a seizure or stroke. Even as confusing as they are dreams and acid trips often have a coherency while you are in them, if not one that’s easily described when recalling the experience.

    *: My formal AI training ended before big data met ML, so it’s woefully out of date. I am quite the computer geek tho, it’s just my passion tends toward languages, type systems, and proof assistants. So, better than most, but not an expert by any means.






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    There’s been a couple court cases (that I know of / at least), and one judge was accepting on the argument that model training was a “fair use” while the other was not. I think both of those rulings came down prior to the publication of the U.S. Copyright Office guidelines.

    Also, I’m not 100% sure that the U.S. Copyright Office is an authority here. The DOJ and/or Federal judiciary would have the authority to interpret the copyright laws: The DOJ to decide to prosecute, and the judiciary to make binding rulings and/or advise juries. I’m sure both the DOJ and the judiciary will give a lot of weight to the guidelines, but the guidelines aren’t actually the law.

    In any case, you can read the guidelines and make your own decisions: https://www.copyright.gov/ai/ Part 3 is about training, and I think the damning bits are III, B and D. Part 2 is about outputs, and I think the damning bits are II, B and D.2. (My summaries: 1. Training infringes 2. Outputs that are substantially similar infringe 3. models get no copyright 4. prompts are NOT ‘human creative effort’ and thus are insufficient to establish copyright 5. human creative effort still gets copyright protections, even when generative AI is used as a tool in the creative process.)

    It is likely that commercial generative AI is in violation of a lot of copyrights, yes. Research projects are fair use, but only as long as they stay research projects.


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    Without copyright, what LLMs raiding the creative output of whoever (including by destroying and scanning books), and reproducing it, even exactly, wouldn’t have any legal restrictions, but neither would overt piracy.

    It would be a very different world. So, depending on what you think is “wrong” with one of the listed activities but not the other, it might be solved by eliminating IP (as part of overthrowing Capitalism or otherwise). Also, the current private justifications of those behaviors would no longer acquiring or obtaining capital, but that doesn’t mean people wouldn’t pursue those behaviors for other justifications.

    I think in a socialist world, a great many artists will still find themselves working to make a living; they will work for the community instead of the Capitalists, but there will still be work to be done, and art may not keep your belly full in lean times. But, I also have problems imagining a socialist world.


  • AI training only makes a copy incidentally to what they’re doing and then it’s deleted. It’s the same standard that makes viewing a photo on an artists website legal.

    That’s not what the U.S. Copyright office says about training. They hold that it does implicate the copyright of reproduction. Meaning: If you train on a protected work without a license you are violating copyright, and if that’s not a fair use then you are breaking the law.

    Training ~ viewing might be an analogy used by “AI” brands, but it is not legal reality.