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Gun laws not changing after every mass shooting incident
Doesn’t necessarily need to. Would open the door to many other awful laws based on single cases. Found a single case of gay men sexually abusing children? Ban homosexuality act enacted. Some gamer shoot up a school? Gaming banned.
The UK might have banned consensual extreme pornography after one death, but it shouldn’t be the norm. If anything, it should be seen as an infringement on human rights by anti-rights activists.
Guns are unique. Every other country tightened gun laws when a mass shooting event happened.
Quick search indicates 342 million people in the United States according to their census, i tried to find the total amount of American citizens but that statistics doesn’t appear easy to find, if we divide it in half and say 171 million US citizens who all potentially own 1 maybe 2 maybe 5 maybe 10 firearms, even if the laws were to change federally at any point do you think every citizen is going to comply?
Even the Canadian government struggles confiscating firearms from licensed owners, and that’s closer to 2 million firearms now prohibited, I can’t imagine how Americans would handle it.
Doesn’t need to be confiscated. Just stop sales and the number goes down over time.
And before you start, you don’t have to stop all sales. We can start with the ones that have potential to kill the most.
Firearms are known to last over a hundred years and can be rebuilt, they don’t just magically go away when sales stop.
And as I mentioned in another comment, In the United States firearms don’t have to be registered, as far as I know this applies federally, may differ per state, how do you plan to track something with no traceability?
Yeah you’re right we should give up (?)
I think the can of worms being opened is far greater than what people expect.
You don’t have to have 1 dude do the whole job. You can just use an equal amount of people per capita as smaller countries have.
If I’m not mistaken, not every firearm purchased in the US is registered. How do you expect people to find these firearms without traceability?
I don’t. I think there isn’t enough popular support for a gun ban for success to happen and it would be a pricey boondoggle. Laws that don’t have public consensus behind them have a poor track record. Look at prohibition or the war on drugs.
But it would not fail because of the size of the country. That’s silly.
maybe you could ask every other country that’s done it.
I don’t believe it’s a fair comparison, there are more guns in the US than people.
Yeah it’s gotta be the daily allegiance to the flag -thing for me. That shit hella weird.
@kadotux @cm0002 @Bytemeister @merc
Having read the Constitution and Declaration of Independence as a kid (they were required reading in school), it seems to me that the flag should be pledging allegiance to *us*, not the other way around.
Man that shit was hella weird growing up.
I stopped saying the whole pledge in kindergarten. Didn’t seem right to pledge to a god I didn’t believe in.
Pretty much stopped saying it all together after 9/11
“I pledge allegiance to the the Flag of the United States…”
Unless you think the flag is a god, you’re not pledging to a god, you’re pledging to a piece of fabric, or to the design printed on that fabric. Which, honestly, is a lot weirder. How can one have allegiance to a flag? What about the opposite, is it possible to be disloyal to a flag?
…for which it stands, one nation, under god…
Huh, just checked the text and I was surprised to find that the god part was only added in 1954.
Yep, because soviet spies were godless heathens who can’t/won’t lie about their faith in order to sneak into the US.
It was an easy way to spot them back then. A bit like vampires and garlic.
Yes, god is mentioned as an additional clause, but you’re pledging to the flag.
Yes… Pledging allegiance… To a flag… Representing a Republic… That exists by/for god…
I mean, I didn’t look into it that much at first, I was in kindergarten FFS, but I remember thinking it was funny that God was mentioned in the pledge, and how he was also mentioned in the prayers at Grandma’s church, and I thought I shouldn’t lie and say the “under god” part since I didn’t believe.
OMG this. Straight up indoctrination. And our parents were like Rah Rah, GOOOO TEAM!!!
Shit looks sketchier the farther we get away from the previous world war.
And then the main conspiracy nuts are going “Nyeh!”, because it was about overthrowing a democratically elected government, and not rolling out communism (read: Obamacare).
They have guns up the wazoo to ensure no tyrant will ever rule them, and a tyrant rules them.
A coward with a gun is still a coward.
Most people buy guns because they’re cowards.
And the people yelling “come and take it” while waving “don’t tread on me” flags voted the tyrants in.
I guess it wasn’t a threat after all and they were just shouting out their kink
“don’t tread on me” in the streets, “please step on me daddy trump” in the sheets
The funniest common combination I see on cars is the Gadsden flag (don’t tread on me) and the thin blue line flag (support for cops). I don’t know how to read that any other way than “I support cops targeting those people.”
I love leopards that eat peoples faces, just don’t eat my face
There’s a DLC for Assassin’s Creed III called The Tyranny of King Washington, exploring an alternate reality with a corrupt president. Not so wild a theory now
I encourage you to read up on prior presidents if you think Trump is some kind of anomaly.
Trump is still an anomaly. It’s been bad, but this is something else entirely. He is simultaneously the dumbest, most evil, and most corrupt President, and it’s not even close.
He commits new acts worse than Watergate multiple times a week.
Maybe I do need to read up on US Presidential history, but as my knowledge stands right now I’d say that, aside from only two or three presidents, every leadership has been progressive in some form. Every one except Trump and a couple others has objectively improved something for the majority of the public. Mr. Orange is, if anything, proof of de-evolution.
I mean even Nixon gave us the EPA. I was not aware during Reagan, so I associate him with excellent jelly beans and hatred. Jelly beans are good, right?
Neo-liberalism has brought us here, it’s designed to slowly ratchet us toward another authoritarian state. Because you cannot dare mar the sanctity of the “Free Market” you have to sacrifice at its altar everything else.
All they had to do was teach them that tyranny looks like a bunch of brown people having jobs.
Yeah Bubba and his gun ain’t doing shit to watchdog the government. In fact I’m quite certain that the government is the only thing keeping Bubba from killing ME with his gun and moving into my house because he feels like it.
The Tyrant started by lulling them first.
If that’s all it takes to silence the guns, then they don’t deserve the guns.
someone post all the major things the cia has done in the last 70 years by bullet point, much has been declassified and the fact none of the public is freaking out over the things they have done is maddening
Well yeah, the CIA has done horrible stuff in the 40s, and the 50s, and the 60s… And the 70s and 80s and 90s… And some stuff in the 00s.
But now? They probably learned their lesson.
The most recent thing that I learned about was that the CIA secretly worked with Boris Hagelin when he formed Crypto AG in the 1950s to ensure that encryption devices sold to foreign countries were easy to break by American intelligence agencies. Then in the 1970s, the CIA secretly purchased Crypto AG and owned it until 2018.
Crypto AG sold devices to countries across South America, Africa, the Middle East, and South East Asia. Basically, all of tge US’s adversaries aside from the USSR and China.
I fruck out about it the first 10 or so times I found out about these things, but it doesn’t hit the same after a while. This is just what the US is. I vote, I speak my mind, I engage in a little domestic terrorism, but ultimately I don’t have enough power to change things in my lifetime. I’m crossing my fingers for an organized network of assassins with a conscience to materialize.
people who are usually morally right, usually don’t kill other people
I tend to agree. I would just like if a certain type of person didn’t have the kind of power that destroys the environment and worsens lives for ends that only serve to benefit that same type of person. How that happens doesn’t matter to me, but assassins would be quick and final. Collective action from the people would make me feel better for the future though.
I have a co-worker who fought in Vietnam. I showed him the thing about the Pentagon straight up admitting that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was bullshit, but he refused to accept it. Still feels that we had to fight that war because if we had allowed the communists to win, it would have meant that communism would have taken over the world … even though we actually did lose that war.
The “domino theory” of communism never played out the way they said it would. Just a waste of blood and treasure.
Any time someone brings up the draft I remind them the last time the U.S. did a draft it was for a war that they lost, and justified due to things that never actually happened after the U.S. lost.
So basically the U.S. enslaved and sent tens of thousands of people to their deaths for no reason.
They then abolished the draft due to public pressure but a little bit later started selective service registration just in case
Draftees make horrible soldiers, especially in unpopular wars which, lets be honest, have been all of the US’ military engagements since 1945. I think the military would rather do without them and the grenades that tend be dropped into the tents of sleeping COs.
My wife and I were talking about a draft for Iran and whether they would widen the age range they’re looking for and try to draft me. I said that if they tried, I would promise them that if they handed me a gun that I would use it to kill as many high ranking American officers as I could because I’m much more dangerous than a pacifist or conscientious objector; I will actively sabotage a war that I don’t believe in and that I’m forced to participate in. So I think they’d let me stay home. If you force me to give my life for a cause, I’m gonna be the one to pick the cause.
I think they would give you a new room, not much furnishings though.
Depends how everything else is going. Probably at the point we have a draft to go to Iran, we’ll already be an authoritarian state and your options are to go to to war or to ICE camp. You think Russians are volunteering to die in Ukraine?
But I’d be curious if that would have worked in Vietnam. I’m guessing they would just put a note in your file to subject you to as much abuse as possible or just kill you the way they did Pat TIllman. Conscientious Objector status is a really a sop to religion, otherwise I think a lot of people could qualify for it.
Edit: Get out of the US if you at all can.
Which is the same as the draft just renamed
The military industrial complex needs its regular sacrifice every decade to keep the black heart pumping.
That’s why the cold was was so good for the MIC. Constant threat.
Ha ha, I just looked it up: there are five Domino’s Pizza restaurants in Vietnam.
Well it largely never played out because western capitalists spilled so much blood making sure it wouldn’t. If people had been free to decide for themselves, many more countries would have gone communist, as it has better outcomes for the majority of people than capitalism.
It is very useful to have a permanent enemy that is both weak and omnipotent.
Well, my co-worker is weak but definitely not omnipotent.
He’s avoiding some of the PTSD by keeping his world narrative. Deep down, he knows, it haunts him at night.
I honestly don’t think he has PTSD, doesn’t seem the type. He spent the war riding around in an M48 tank so I don’t think he saw any shit up close. More like a B52 pilot than an actual combatant.
He told you he drove both a Tank and a B52 in Vietnam?
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it’s easier to get a gun than a doctor’s appointment
tipping
pharmaceutical commercials
casually having the largest prison population in the world and pretending it’s normal
violence on tv is okay, but no cussing or sexuality
casually having the largest
prisonslave population in the world and pretending it’s normalit’s easier to get a gun than a doctor’s appointment
A lot of times, it’s cheaper too!
tipping
I don’t think tipping is weird on it’s own, but the default expectation of tipping, and the fuckery around wages that makes tips essential to earning “a living” instead of a nice bonus is definitely weird.
Tipping is weird on its own. The idea that you are showing gratitude by pushing money on someone is gross at best and downright offensive at worst.
If someone tried to thank me with a hand full of change I’d tell them to fuck off.
What if it was a small stack of 20s? 100s? What if it meant the difference between paying rent or not?
If it were 20s or 100s it would be more insulting, you understand this, no?
If it’s the difference between paying rent or not then it’s a huge problem that the behaviour exists to enable that situation. If it weren’t a cultural behaviour it would be called panhandling.
I do not understand this. If anyone ever gives you a stack like that, feel free to ‘insult’ me by directing it my way.
I see it as an extra “thank you” if someone goes above and beyond what I was expecting for a service. It’s not something that should be given out lightly or something that is expected, but I also know that tipping is necessary for people in some jobs to make a living. It’s not a fault of their own, but a fault of a system that saw a benefit they were getting, and was like “oh, we can just under-pay these employees and use tipping as leverage against them.” Do I hate the tipping system in the US? Absolutely. Am I going to impose financial stresses (by not tipping) on the waitstaff at a restaurant in order to make a point about how badly they are compensated for their work? Absolutely not.
Considering that giving cash to someone under any other circumstances is considered tacky (even gift certificates/cards are more acceptable, and that’s just cash with limits on where/how you can spend it), it is weird that tipping is so ingrained in our culture. And unsettling, to be honest…
Tipping is the product of capitalism. Using it as gratitude, puts capitalism as superior.
I live in a capitalist country, and we don’t have tipping
I think a more accurate shorthand for this would be “tipping culture”
My daughter sent me a TikTok about the government using counterintelligence techniques against left wing groups. I sent her the wikipedia page on Cointellpro with the comment “Sadly this is not new”
Nothing about this is new. The authoritarianism, the concentration camps, the dispossessions, the witch-hunt of immigrants and people with a darker skin, the fearmongering, the robber baron oligarchs. We’ve all been here before. And not just once.
The truly astonishing cultural trait is that Americans keep on living in lalaland and pretend it isn’t happening, it never happened, and it COULD never happen cuz yada yada the Constitution and We The People and the second amendment.
Americans are one shortsighted bunch willing to swallow any and all propaganda.
I think what made COINTELPRO stand out was how weird it was (experiments with LSD, etc.)
ETA: Never mind, I think I’m getting that confused with MKUltra.
COINTELPRO: surveil and oppress and facilitate violence towards black folks for daring to not want to be quite so oppressed
MKUltra: jerk off dolphins while playing with acid
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One thing that, uh, amuses(?) me is that apparently there’s still a national emergency from 9/11: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/09/03/2025-16941/continuation-of-the-national-emergency-with-respect-to-certain-terrorist-attacks
You know how Hitler rose to power by abusing a national emergency regulation? You know how there was worry of Trump doing a fascism, back when Obama handed over to the guy? You know how Trump literally announced beforehand that he’ll do a fascism, when Biden handed over to him?
Both could’ve chosen to terminate the national emergency. Neither did so.
https://www.courthousenews.com/biden-extends-9-11-state-of-emergency-by-a-year/
I never agree that both sides are the same, fucking far from it. But the left politicians are not without their shady AF shit.
that’s because they’re not left, at all.
The Epstein Files will be released in 2126 to ensure that all guilty parties cannot face justice.
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A huge amount of the population is truck-sexual.
25 years ago, I could see how they had a kind of rugged romantic working appeal back when trucks were four wheels, chassis, big engine, and two seats. They don’t seem to make those any more, I only seem to see the giant luxury wanker variety.
thanks for the explanation!
i didn’t quite get it the first time i saw the popularity.
My favorite weird thing about American culture is that it is so aggressive. Aggressive food (PopTarts, Big Gulps, etc), aggressive games (football), aggressive national anthem (literally about war), and so on. We are an oddly aggressive people.
Pop tarts are aggressive…?
Regarding the national anthem, you should look up a translation of the French national anthem. And it probably isn’t the most metal/aggressive national anthem out there, since it’s one of the very few I even know.
Edit: I couldn’t help but add this snippet
Grab your weapons, citizens! Form your battalions! Let us march! Let us march! May impure blood Water our fields!
Full lyric translation: https://www.thoughtco.com/la-marseillaise-frances-national-anthem-4080565
I got into a bar fight with a pop tart once. Super aggressive guy. He knocked a couple of my teeth out and gave me a nose bleed. By the end he had me pinned down, but I managed to break free and throw him into the nearest toaster. Savored that meal.
EDIT: I might have dreamt this.
My favorite comment today lol
No I was the toaster. That really hurt. You could have hurt somebody.
I once tasted a real proper tart. Served at the wake of a late boss at a golf club house. English tea times sometimes include simple jam tarts. Both envoke tranquil and enjoyability. All my experiences with the Pop Tart were under rush, duress, haste, a sugar-to-blood delivery system. One can tell easy when we (USA) aggravate the food. Like turning doughnuts into donuts. Or spell cheese with a ‘z’.
Cheeze is spelled with a z there because it literally isn’t cheese, it’s a vegan substitute.
That actually makes sense haha
That others are also aggressive doesn’t mean we are not.
I didn’t say that’s what it meant. I just wondered if they would think one was much more aggressive than the other. I do. More than one thing can be true.
blood and soil
sheesh😬
This checks out as the French are the second biggest arms dealer in the world.
Pop Tarts are super aggressive. In addition to being made of no natural foodstuffs, they are extremely flammable when in a toaster.
Haha well a lot of people are defining pop tarts as aggressive in different ways. Apparently I’m way too narrow in my interpretation of that word
Careful, that kind of talk may get you beaten up.
Shot, man, shot.
I believe all anthema are about war. Mexico’s about the need to fight agains a foreign enemy invasion…
The german one started out as a poem then song that was meant to unite states through their artists and academics. While the nazi abused it and skewed the meaning to be aggressive (germany above all other countries), it was initially about unity (Germany above whatever the princes of the individual states of the German Confederation want).
Have you seen George Carlin’s bit on football vs baseball?
Yea but also casual. Like we in our jeans and baseball caps leaning on a wall ready to fuck shut up at a moments notice lol.
Aggressively casual. 😉
Theoretically that’s what the 2A guns are meant to be for…
But doesn’t really work out that way when the adversary is your own Government, who has access to very arguably the best armed police force and military in the world, and is more than willing to turn those on you.
The reason it doesn’t work out that way is because we aren’t organized. Yeah, sure, a lot of Americans are armed, but they’re armed and alone. The intention behind the second amendment was that groups of citizens would form their own local militias and effectively be a distributed standing army ready to defend their liberty at a moment’s notice, but the pervasive culture of individualism has twisted the second amendment into something else.
Yeah, but they hunt down and destroy militia groups when we try to do that.
At least any of the ones that aren’t Nazis. In the past they hunted those down too, but we let the foxes into the hen house so now they get to stay.
Only the leftist militia groups. The right wing ones were all given jobs with ice. It’s not a coincidence there have been fewer nazi marches since ice started the hiring program.
The foxes were already in the henhouse, because they were the ones who built the henhouse in the first place.
Eh, idk. There’s at least a handful of notable Nazi militia group bust-ups in America’s history. Like yeah, it was built by slavers, but there’s different kinds of bad, and pro big state fascism is actually very very far removed from the ideals of the people that founded this country.
You’re mistaken. There are armed militias. And they all support Trump.
Theoretically the 2A is for a big well organised militia to oppose outside powers and to ensure the US doesn’t need a big standing army
Yes, but most people ignore that part of the amendment.
I’ll just leave these here, in order or relevance: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BxvxbZGjlv4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wNtxtuQxUz8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QbXTDuwSVkk
When you’re watching adverts and a snippet of a tv show interrupts you.
Their constitution is a divine document, dictated by the elder gods which cannot be altered in any way (including the amendments, oddly enough) and which can solve any problem and contains every truth.
American civil religion is a sociological theory that a nonsectarian civil religion exists within the United States with sacred symbols drawn from the national history of the United States. Scholars have portrayed it as a common set of values that foster social and cultural integration. The ritualistic elements of ceremonial deism found in American ceremonies and presidential invocations of God can be seen as expressions of the American civil religion.
I’ve always thought of this as being very bizarre and I don’t know if something similar has ever emerged in another country so far.
The US has birthed lots of very weird ideas.
And the founding fathers were divinely inspired geniuses who thought of every possible contingency, despite being a bunch of 20 year old rich kids.
Also the sort of person who shouts that the loudest, will happily go along with any suggestion that the amendments they don’t like were a corruption of the true spirit of the Constitution and should be repealed.
Applying bible rules to the Constitution.
And can be ignored by the very same government whenever it chooses to do so.
Actually that’s incorrect in terms of the “cannot be altered”. The constitution can be altered via a ratification by 38 / 50 states or 2/3rds of congress. With a supermajority being required, this would mean that the proposed amendment would have to be bipartisan… Which means it’s almost impossible to do, especially nowadays… Unless the country were to take a major shift left or right (or more likely the elections become rigged)
Last time this happened though was in 1992
thank goodness because if it was too easy, the “two terms” would have been amended already by the Party of Trump
No wonder he wants to “federalize elections.” Just look what’s been happening in Nicaragua since 2013 which has finally come to a head (although Ortega’s judges just straight up nullified the term limit…
On paper the USA SCOTUS cannot do this since they can only interpret …but they can take away teeth to enforce which they have done before… they just can’t straight up say “nah that’ part of the constitution is nullified.” Like what happened in Nicaragua in 2013
I mean, they’ve already reinterpreted parts of the Constitution to not mean exactly what it says. They can wordsmith their way around the 22nd amendment if enough of them find politically advantageous. I’m sure Alito has a draft ruling already ready to go.
