Context: Admiral Patrick replied and included this gem:
And might I add that not one person complained until db0 went internet Karen with his hissy fit because I took his toy away from him.
“Not one person complained about my explicitly obfuscated blacklists! Damn internet Karens making a big deal!”
Making a blacklist for your frontend is one thing.
Not telling users about it is an entirely different, more fucked up thing.
Purposefully disguising block as technical difficulties instead of deliberate blocks is yet another level of different and more fucked up.
A blacklist that users are informed of and therefore (presumably) consent to when using the software, I could understand. I still don’t entirely agree with it, but I understand.
But each of the additional levels of fucked-up-ness turn it from understandable to despicable. Absolutely fuck that dev in every which way.
And the statement that it wasn’t encrypted, just compressed, is an entirely antagonistic reframing.
There were multiple block lists. Some right in the open, and one that was stored as a monolithic .dat (I assume the one he called “compressed”).
The end result is that the second list was obfuscated from not only end-users, but also “admins” hosting it, and developers attempting to work on the project.
The compression decision only holds if all of the filter lists were compressed and this decision was clearly documented.
Plus the circumstantial evidence that the “enable toxic mode” option did not in fact disable the filtering that relied on the .dat file.
I can’t even say that I’m in theory against his openly stated goals of making the fediverse more approachable to normies. But this is not the way to implement it, and it’s not the way to react when called out about it.
I can’t even say that I’m in theory against his openly stated goals of making the fediverse more approachable to normies.
If you want something approachable for normies, Facebook is right there.
IMO, the fediverse should be weird and stay weird. It doesn’t need to grow huge, it doesn’t need to become a normie website or a household name.
I’m more than OK with weird. I love weird. I’m even ok with strong political opinions that I don’t always agree with. I’m fine with Lemmy staying small in the hopes it never ends up becoming an eternal September situation.
Those aren’t the issue.The problem is the violent rhetoric combined with the intense and constant bad-jacketing. Constant jumping to bad conclusions about other users and arguing against those straw men instead of trying for good faith.
At least you only jumped to the conclusion that I wanted Lemmy to stop being weird and grow unsustainably popular. I was honestly expecting someone to call me a corporate stooge or that I’m just a butthurt MAGA chud upset that Lemmy leans left-wing, then tell me to kill myself.
I was honestly expecting someone to call me a corporate stooge or that I’m just a butthurt MAGA chud upset that Lemmy leans left-wing, then tell me to kill myself.
Well, I don’t want you to feel disappointed, so here goes: you’re a person who likes money and you’re just upset that my virtue signalling is of higher fidelity! You should go get a coin and put it on your shoulder, so you get alarmed by the sudden clattering when you forget it’s there and it hits the floor!
Is that enough vitriol for you?
Word bad step on lego immediately
Yeah, but seeing myself on line 1208 of the super-secret banned list made me feel far more dangerous and badass than I deserve. I feel like I’m barely a decent person, but I’m still working on it; apparently, that makes me a radical.
I would love an anti fascist blocklist
Do you really run into that many fascists on Lemmy? (As long as you’re not counting tankies as fascist, I guess. Which they’re technically not quite.)
not one person complained until db0 went internet Karen with his hissy fit because I took his toy away from him.
Lmao because nobody knew until db0 pointed it out. Do you really think the community at large would’ve taken it well if they had known?
I don’t mean this ironically but this person needs to touch grass. Go offline. Disengage.
I think he should be set on fire, along with all the other people I’m on Lemmy to say should be set on fire.
every day i wake up, log into lemmy, and advocate for setting a select list of people on fire. do people use this platform for something else?
I’m also a fan of beheadings and trying to bring back drawing and quartering.
ah we frequent the same communities!
Don’t forget to advocate for the Balkanization of the United States so that all of our political problems can be magically solved and I get to bring my passport and go through customs to cross the militarized Mississippi River.
Not magic, just bringing back execution for treason, bribery, and betraying the people of your electorate. Simple stuff.
do people use this platform for something else?
Catching up in the latest bean and moth related memes. I’m just surprised we don’t have any memes around moths circling beans.
I like to make poop jokes
Oh that’s a top tier temper tantrum trying to justify themselves. They got caught and they’re real mad about it.
Genius thought nobody would ever read the source code…
They tried to hide it by putting it in a non-plaintext format downloaded at runtime, the actual list isn’t in the source code.
Yeah, but … they didn’t think anybody would read the source, see it calling to download that file, and wonder ‘what’s that file for?’
Indeed. Software, especially FOSS software, is all about credit and reputation. And his is now trash. There is literally no one who’s going to trust his software going forward. He will have to change his username and start from scratch and hope nobody figures out who he actually is as he tries to rebuild his reputation somewhere else.
Admiral used Blahaj as an example of a “terrorist” instance in their rant.
This confirms they are just another garden variety fascist trying to sanitize the world around them because they’re too fragile to adapt, and in their psychosis they think everyone else will support their obviously broken mindset.
Yo admiral fash, if you’re here with us go ahead and add me to your walmart brand palantir system. I stand with LGBTQIA, and rest assured I’d have some violence for you for silencing their voices.
Palantemu
That’s a winner.
‘Great Value Palantir’
I’m in stiches, hahaha!
They also specifically stated they do not support transphobia
Maybe the truth is more nuanced than someone you hate is a fascist
You do realize by virtue of having a blahaj account, admiral considers you one of these violent extremist leftists he shadowbans, right? You’re literally going to bat for your own oppressor right now.
Fascists won’t consider you one of the “good ones” no matter how much you defend them, just some food for thought.
I disagree with the actions of the person discussed, but i am not going to call them fascist because of something that maybe possibly kinda could make them transphobic, but has multiple possible explanations
A transphobic fascist wouldnt mention that they prohibit transphobia, at best “forget” to mention it
Not everything that is bad is fascist
Completely agree. There’s plenty of issues everywhere, but they’re not all fascist and fascism isn’t the cause of every issue. To ascribe everything to fascism is simultaneously boiling things down to black and white thinking and dilutes the meaning of fascism.
I dunno, seems like ‘but I have a black friend’ or ‘I’m not racist but…’ energy, if they’re dumb enough to think blahaj of all places is a terrorist organization…
There exist other reason they could consider blahaj bad
Not good reasons though
If there are no good reasons to block it, then what was your point?
That calling everyone a fascist is counterproductive because not everyone is as evil as one
I mean, the rest of us can’t help it if they’re expressing fascist ideologies. We just call it when we see it.
But they arent expressing fascist ideologies. Fascism is more than censorship
Damn, Admiral Patrick makes so much sense now…
Hey, that’s an insult to Patrick Star
This has been hands-down some of the best drama I’ve seen on the Fediverse. I assume there’s some sick part of my brain that just loves it when someone doubles down on a bad decision.
If all that talk of “tesseract is more than a client, it’s an experience that sands off the rough edges of the fediverse” was true wouldn’t that be prominently featured in the readme and UI? All this “toxic mode” and “extremists” buzzwords make it seem like you’re protecting users, but many users of Lemmy are here exactly because of those “rough edges”, fleeing from the sanitized, censored, unfree mainstream websites. Not because we’re terrorists, but because we believe that saying “billionaires should be hanged” shouldn’t be disallowed. Fuck facebookifying my experience by showing boomer memes and hiding real talk.
and the remaining 20% just garden-variety spammers and toxic people who scare the normies away.
Oh man, I’d rather have a list of normies that make the internet slop
“Enable Toxic Mode”… lmfao!
My discussions since joining Lemmy & dbzer0 specifically are so much higher quality than when I used Reddit. People aren’t calling each other stupid, and real discussions seem to be had from both sides of different topics. Maybe the instance I’m in is just well-moderated but I can’t see how this community could be considered toxic or put on a blacklist by anyone other than those who are ignorant and judge books by their covers.
Some scary words for Patrick (cover your eyes): Anarchy! Transgender! Leftist! LGBT! Equality!
You might have missed the troubles, a period when squid was still active and being anti Zionist could and would get you banned across whole instances where pointing out that Joe Biden was clearly losing in their race to be president would result in a several week ban for some of the most important and critical members of the community. The petty authoritarianism really can’t be dismissed, and it’s probably the most important issue facing the project currently.
I call people on reddit stupid all the time, but that’s because there are genuinely a lot of stupid people on reddit who appear to be ignorant of their predicament. Unfortunately I only have so much time in a day so the vast majority of stupid redditors carry on blissfully unaware.
People aren’t calling each other stupid
Uhh, what? Did you even read the comments on this very post?
Consider the possibility that you’re in a bubble made out of titanium when you’re here.
That’s crazy, one random comment out of a hundred?
What kind of moron do you have to be ah wait you got me now it’s one out of fifty!
Yeah okay I take back what I said, people only get called stupid if they deserve it lol
That post from the creator reads like a 4chan chud who escaped containment and is mad about their stinky diaper. Honestly, having read some of their little hissy fit about being caught, fuck that friendless asshole.
…aaaaaand, now you’re on the list. 🤣🤣🤣
Fuck yeah, I don’t want Nazis interacting with me. Also I’m trans and on blahaj.zone, so if I actually get added to the list I’ll laugh my ass off at that little piss baby since they’d have to go out of their way to see my comment.
nonono, they’re the one that’s normal and well adjusted, it’s like you didn’t even read their post
Hmm,
"https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/fediverse_vs_disinfo", "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/flippanarchy", "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/gestapo_usa", "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/leftymemes", "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/libjerk", "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/politicalmemes", "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/politics",
lmfao, that (linked) post. Read four words and almost fell backwards off my chair due to the sheer concentrated dipshittery, it’s like taking a firehose to the face.
Of course they locked the post so you can’t reply
That post max crash out. Homie included a way to turn it off like a company hiding the cancel subscription options and expected everyone to love it. Like bro if you want to filter everything out thats what your block list is for. Also, he plainly did not mention why it was obfuscated to such a degree and acted like it showed you everything.
And he called it the toxic filter. Like, dudes higher on his own farts than I am on mine. That is hard
I finally found myself but I honestly feel like this is a list of frequent users more than anything.
It does raise the question of what’s left once you’re done scouring out all the shit you don’t like.
I occasionally visit in incognito to see what I’m missing. And I’ll admit… mostly bad memes and reactionary hot takes. But I’m blocking maybe a dozen channels and twenty odd users. This block list goes into the 3k range.
In my experience, once you get rid of all the people who are willing to voice a unique opinion, the people who are left are the ones make superficial one-liner puns. One of the great things about Lemmy is it’s usually a discussion, not just an upvote race like Reddit is.
yeah, when i started using lemmy i started blocking every chungus i disagreed with. then i realized i’m a pretty big chungus myself on a bad day, and there’s like a hundred of us who use this regularly. if i block someone who’s just having a bad day that’s diminishes the experience here, but if i block someone who’s always having a bad day (i’m not naming names, but there are a few) it improves the experience.
i think i might have fifty users total blocked (mostly bots and trolls i hope), and i’ve added maybe ten in the last year. 3k is just stupid.
deleted by creator
Wow what a cock. He thinks I fit in the category of being a “violent extremist?” Seriously? All I ever do is advocate for peacefully voting assholes out of office. Fuck this guy and his quiet censorship. May he always find a pebble in his shoe.
No one complained about all the kids I raped until they knew about it! - Trump
Here’s the full list, my revenge for not being on it:
Tap for spoiler
anarchist.nexus:
primrosepathspeedrun unruffled
ani.social:
AntiBullyRanger Arabshinobirp hisao
aussie.zone:
ape8008 gaymer Taleya
Signtist
crazypeople.online:
Smeagol666
crust.piefed.social:
Zastrafa
discuss.online:
Fives JC1432 pelican476
blackris Changelin cyko Emilia karma_will_f_you_up qwerty Silly
expressional.social:
Peter_Link
MBech
monogram
feddit.online:
bobby hdp4
Azrael Ulrich
feddit.rocks:
PipedLinkBot
DampSquid Johnslims85 NomNom tetris111 Zombie
Chozo Envy frustrated_phagocytosis Hegar Nyxias Zier
futurology.today:
FuckAIFreeIsrael
h4x0r.host:
glowie
AINewsBot
infosec.pub:
CubitOom
Bad
biscuit Chenlanlan
leminal.space:
Bar548
lemmings.world:
bluesocks leftthegroup nuggie_ss SanctimoniousApe tirednapstablook whereyaaat
rssbot
lemmy.blahaj.zone:
ada birdwing Marshezezz mathemachristian Strawberry Xtallll
8H2k2139 AlfredGreen avidamoeba Canconda corsicanguppy ILikeBoobies jerkface jtsk2009 LoveCanada masterofn001 sherikaz Snowpix TerranFenrir TheAgeOfSuperboredom Tree usernames
lemmy.cafe:
apenstaartje ineedmorecoffee
toad31 zrst
commie Daft_ish Flatworm7591 kami kbobabob nomugisan otter red_bull_of_juarez tlekiteki
Rachael
lemmy.linuxuserspace.show:
whamgeek
Armio2 BrainInABox bubblybubbles Confidant6198 daydrinkingchickadee gary_host_laptop Imnebuddy jackeroni jankforlife manuallybreathing menemen PastaCannon pete_link poderobrero ricesoup tastemyglaive
lemmy.myserv.one:
grimpy
Fizz passwordforgetter
Lumino Optimal researcher2022
lemmy.today:
Ronald someone sudo Tollana1234567 WorldsDumbestMan
lemmy.world:
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lemmy.wtf:
LinguisticKerosene
lemmy.zip:
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profile/fu
mander.xyz:
Deep jared Jimmy Sepia
Miro_Collas
mastodon.art:
NickEast_IndieWriter
midwest.social:
Corelli_III Infynis seahorse
Grail
pawb.social:
chosensilence ollie
piefed.blahaj.zone:
ada
piefed.social:
bluemoon Bonus bruzq cabbage Goten GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson jojo pieland Shadow79 unknown xerxes
piefed.world:
homes Mod Reaqlto s
piefed.zip:
astrid p3l
programming.dev:
audit69 Cruel expr mrmeeseeks Sl00k snikta steam username_1
FreeAI
Keep Mod throws_lemy
Observer toast
assaff kadu randomname Scotty
sh.itjust.works:
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amos stabby_cicada
bittin
sopuli.xyz:
Alex AlvinTheChipmunk Grimreaper Lucas MightyMouse supersquirrel Vader
abc
Emmie
sunzu2 TheracAriane
thelemmy.club:
Amoxtli Archangel brees7797 dark Hell_nah_brother ted22 wiccan2
toast.ooo:
individual yet
ttrpg.network:
j_watrfalls sadfitzy
dnc
With a blacklist like that, I’m surprised any content appeared at all, the instances listed cover most of what I see on All
Like Charles said this is just the direct bans, there’s a whole regex section that goes one step further
This isn’t the full list, some people were on it regardless of instance. I’m on it, but it’s any user who has my name and any numbers after it for some reason
If anything us regex bans are the majority
Probably gave up on doing it the other way
wild to see aussie.zone, but wilder to see BOTH the big furry instances. they’re so specifically non-toxic lmao
e: ada is in there by name TWICE. blocking the whole instance just isn’t enough, gotta get that clean triple shadowban hahahah
they’re so specifically non-toxic lmao
Not my experience with aussie.zone tbh. About half of the bad apples I ran into the past few weeks have been from their instance. It was bad enough I was looking up how to block their entire instance
oh that was more meant about the furry instances
Re-read what was said.
Go read the other response and quit being redundant
Hahaha thank you!
Did I do something wrong? Am I not cool enough? Why didn’t I make the list? :'(
Fyi, that list doesn’t collapse on some clients and is egregiously long. Hosting it on pastebin or something would probably be better.
