This voter thinks that gas would have been cheaper and there wouldn’t have been a paramilitary force grabbing people off the street if Kamala had won.
It is expected but still sad that only some can admit not being at war with Iran nor closing the strait of Hormuz, IN HINDSIGHT, would have led to cheaper fuel.
Even sadder is that so many of those people care more about gas prices going up than the illegality of the war itself and its civilian casualties in Iran.
Republicans do not care about human lives. They barely care about American lives.
They don’t care about any loves other than their own. They lack empathy. Everyone other than them is expendable.
That’s not fair, they also care about lives they aren’t alive yet. Once they’re born they can get fucked though.
I don’t think people realize the humanitarian crisis that’s going to occur if the desalination plant attacks spiral any further. It’ll consume not just Iran but the entire region.
Can’t even get it right when these idiots are admitting they’re wrong.
GAS WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS OF AN ISSUE EITHER WAY BECAUSE WE WOULDN’T HAVE PISSED AWAY 2 YEARS PRETENDING ELECTRIFICATION WERE DEAD.
For real, the removal of federal incentives caused a huge wave of EV cancellations, which will inevitably increase demand for oil, which will increase prices.
But as always the bipartisan support for higher oil prices comes from the lack of regulation around them. Big Oil is taking this opportunity to drive up prices artificially and recording record profits (again). You would think with the importance of oil on our entire economy that someone would reign them in but alas their pockets are too deep.
Because gas prices are the yardstick, apparently? Who cares about the wholesale destruction of the Constitution? Who cares about the war crimes? Who cares about the racist and illegal imprisonment and deportation of legal residents? Just whatever you do, don’t jack up gas prices. JFC
Most people care about what affects them directly and nothing more.
The irony is that it is affecting them directly and most of them still don’t get it.
“The trees voted for the axe because the handle was made of wood.”
Seeing the ugly underbelly of America has been hard. This many people are this awful inside? Really?
……and what did they learn? That’s right, nothing.
FTA:
Thirty-five percent said gas prices would have gone up the same amount under a Democrat, while only 34 percent of Trump’s 2024 voters believe gas prices would have gone up more under a Democratic administration.
Am I reading this correctly? 69% of Trump voters think gas would have been the same or worse with Harris?
I seriously doubt that any of these people thought for one moment about what they said, but this is actually a complicated issue. Would Iran have closed the Strait of Hormuz if only Israel had attacked them? My guess is that they wouldn’t, but it’s just a guess.
It could very well be that Israel wouldn’t have attacked Iran in the first place if Trump wasn’t president.
Thanks dbshitters.
How? Would Harris have also picked a fight with Iran to distract from the epstien files?
You falsely assume they can connect those two dots.
Everything goes in the square hole
Probably not, but if Israel had attacked its pretty clear she’d have sent them any material they asked for.
Maybe the trump dips hits aren’t that far off on this one. Though more likely it wouldn’t have escalated this far.
Ah, but you’re forgetting that something something socialism.
if only Israel had attacked
Do you think Harris wouldn’t have backed Israel? Biden’s policy on Israel seemed to be publicly aligning 100% while quietly whispering, “Are you sure you know what you’re doing, Bebe?”
I do not think Kamala, or Biden, would have attacked Iran at the behest of Israel.
Biden also was not ”publicly aligning 100%" with Israel. For example, he publicly called for humanitarian restraint [in their response to the Oct 4th attack] to protect innocent civilians and also for a two state solution in his 2024 State of the Union address.
I’m going to blow your fucking mind: Biden and Harris are different people.
I can’t believe I’m the first you’re hearing this from, but a common criticism of Harris’ campaign was her failure to distinguish herself from Biden.
“What, if anything, would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years?”
“There is not a thing that comes to mind”
She even campaigned as the only one who could stop Trump. Which sounded very similar to Biden’s campaign for the soul of America.
So, yeah, I guess I was misled into thinking they both might govern the same way.
What is this? Harris said that she didn’t disagree with what Biden had “done,” so she must agree and plan to implement everything that Biden was even thinking or hinting at, or at least what you personally thought Biden was thinking or hinting at?
I don’t think that has any reasoning in it. I’m not sure it counts as an argument.
Harris appearing completely uncritical of Biden’s administration and doing almost nothing to put forward her own policies or priorities does imply she liked what was happening and wanted to keep doing it. I’m not pulling rabbits out of a hat here: this was a criticism consistently levied during the campaign and discussed in the autopsy report that the DNC reluctantly put out. I cherry picked one quote as an example out of a whole article discussing missteps the campaign made. I even included the link so you could see the context, including the part where Harris seems to realize she made an error with that quote.
But I appreciate the unduly condescending tone. It really makes this place feel like Reddit.
The problem is that the argument requires taking sweeping generalizations and trying to make a specific conclusion. Even if people are 98% the same, they are still 2% different, and so you can’t just say, “Well, they’re similar, so I’m sure that they have the same views even in the most extreme issues.”
including the part where Harris seems to realize she made an error with that quote.
This is a stunning admission. You’re previously claiming that Harris will do all the same things that you imagined Biden might do, and now you’re saying that she claimed the quote you used to prove it was an error.
So, you have no argument at all.
But I appreciate the unduly condescending tone. It really makes this place feel like Reddit.
I was condescending towards the argument, not you, because the argument really was that worthless. I felt embarrassed responding to something so obviously empty and wrong. Since I have made the point and now you seem to be making it personal by attacking me, I’m done here. Adios.
That’s what her campaign of ‘corporate approved small change government’ wanted her to say. Biden’s team also did not want her to separate herself from Biden on the campaign trail.
That line helped to sink her, in driving out anyone not already sold on the plan. Harris avoided taking any risks to not come across as over-selling and under-delivering, but no one wants a leader that doesn’t even believe in the message they’re selling.
I think most people understand that Harris would in practice have been quite different from Biden, but for most larger policies she would have not have differed.
Love it when people know everything that might have happened, as long as it makes Republicans look less shitty
I asked a question, not predicted an alternate timeline. And I certainly didn’t say Republicans were less shitty.
Harris was campaigning as a continuity of Biden’s administration. Did Biden ever give an impression that he would actually break with Israel over anything? If so, I didn’t see it. Just rumors and leaks of backdoor talks that he disapproved of the Palestinian genocide.
According to John Kerry, Netanyahu had pitched this kind of attack on Iran to George W. Bush, Barrack Obama and Joe Biden while they were in power. Every president said no, until Trump said yes.
Do you have anything to point to that would suggest Harris would give a different answer than Biden?
Nothing as concrete and firsthand as that interview. Thank you for answering my question.
I would say that Biden did take small steps that were good on some things. I don’t know. I don’t think it’s crazy to guess either way. I just feel like a lot of people are overconfident about that (and so many other things).
“I think there’s an obvious one in mind, which is Iran,” Harris replied. “Iran has American blood on their hands. This attack on Israel, 200 ballistic missiles.”
“What we need to do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to be a nuclear power, that is one of my highest priorities,” she added.
Whitaker followed up, asking, “If Iran is building a nuclear weapon, would you take military action?”
“I’m not going to talk about hypotheticals at this moment,” said the vice president.
-60 minutes 2024
A chance to say no, and she didn’t take it. Im not a fortune teller but so many downvotes for a comment that has just as much merit is ridiculous to me.
“Nazis lament that they suffer for their perfect ideas”
Exactly one Iran war cheaper
What do you want🤷♂️
They are removed deplorables. Unredeemable.
Some Trump supporters believe in objective reality? Well, that’s a start.
All of them have been lied to for decades. Some are beginning to see it.
Obligatory leopards and faces
Well, duh.
Ah doi
That’s because they’re dumber than Trump is.
Can we just think about that for a moment? That’s a really difficult feat.
I didn’t vote for trump, but I might have if I knew that he would make gas prices higher than $100/gallon permanently.
We can’t afford the cost of low gas prices.
Trump is a radical Moaist environmental terrorist. Change my mind.
Also cares about improving working conditions for the people Mexico, apparently.
And improving the energy independence of the Cuban people
