Link says he’s charged with petit larceny, which is a misdemeanor in USA. IDK where the destruction of property charges land.
He’s receiving donations for his defense from across the country.
Good, maybe more people should start doing this.
Also, maybe we should start considering this and related options for areas where city/state governments have banned flock or ended their contracts, since they all seem to want to pass responsibility for removal to flock itself like it’s a hot potato!
Wonder how a jury trial would go.
I read thru some of his updates. Sounded like VA offered a settlement, which was rejected by Jeffrey’s legal team. NAL, but sounds like they didn’t like the 1st terms offered.
Ofc it is possible it doesn’t reach trial. Many cases end in some plea agreement between the parties. I think, but not certain, that he faces felony charges, not just misdemeanors. NAL and totally making shit up, but I wonder if they might try for a plea down to only the misdemeanors.
Juries are a crapshoot. Anything can happen. There’s a Voir Dire process where each side gets to strike some # of jurors. Also, sometimes juries will the prosecution if they believe the case is being over-charged. (Edit, not literally punish ofc. I mean, lean more toward the defense).
Depending on the jurisdiction and charges it may not qualify for a jury trial. No idea if this case would.
Technically it’s your right to demand a jury trial. Even for civil claims.
Yo what really?
I can’t wait to waste some debt collectors time in court
Well… You may be on the hook for court fees. Just fyi
I’m going to be real with you, my civil court track record is not good. There’s no way I come out not owing something
Now he’s in jail and the cameras will be replaced in a week. Congrats I guess
Everyone pack it up! Tekato has declared direct action useless. We can all stop resisting because this guy is in jail and the cameras will be replaced in a week.
Is it worth noting here that several local governments want to remove the cameras, but act as if Flock has more control over their own land than they do?
Flock, meanwhile, acts extremely entitled.
All the more reason to chop them down
Unfortunately those cameras are now tracking bluetooth signals from cell phones, cars, and headphones, so they can still track people while covered.
Also, those cities should have started fining Flock for littering after they refused to take the cameras down. Making the fine double the subscription rate would have been more than fai
Also, those cities should have started fining Flock for littering after they refused to take the cameras down. Making the fine double the subscription rate would have been more than fai
This is actually a pretty good and reasonable idea.
I didn’t call it useless, you did. It will be useful for about a week until they get replaced. That same guy could’ve instead used his military status to gather support and maybe run for mayor or governor in the future and actually make an impact, but sure, keep resisting.
Hear Ye Hear Ye! Tekato has now proclaimed that electoral politics is the only acceptable pathway to change! All radical politics is wasted effort because this guy should have just run for office! Why didnt anyone ever think of that? We all must simply wait for the correct candidate to solve our problems for us!
Second strawman in a row. At least this one was funny.
Each of your comments is explicitly discouraging direct action and minimizing the impact everyday people can have outside the approved range of electoral politics. There’s no strawmen here. I’ll admit to exaggeration though.
So you genuinely think going around destroying flock cameras is the right thing to do? How many have you destroyed? It better not be zero
Yes, we should never be for a thing we ourselves do not directly do. Presumably you are running for mayor or governor like you said this guy could do.
How many times have you gathered support and ran for mayor or governor? Better not be zero
Destroying the apparatus of the surveillance state is morally correct, yes. And nice try trying to get me to admit to a crime, fedboy.
Im not the other commenter but not only do I think that destroying/removing the cameras is the right thing to do but I think it’s also the duty of the people.
Maybe people can do both. But money talks and replacing these repeatedly becomes expensive for those who have elected to purchase them.
Maybe they can. This one didn’t.
Your comment doesn’t even make sense
Yet even this nearly pointless action is still infinitely more than you will ever accomplish for your civil rights.
There are more american citizens than there are prison cells and cameras
Now he’s in jail
Can you provide a source for this statement please? I do not see that in the futurism link.
In fact, it sounds like he was detained at the time of his arrest, but then released immediately. That would normally be the case for property crimes with no risk to public safety and no flight risk. July 18th, his gofundme page was talking about conversations with his neighbors. July 7th, he was talking about enjoying a camping trip in the woods. That all sounds like he is at home, not in jail.
He will face a grand jury soon. For the non-US readers. Grand Jury is a process that determines whether criminal charges will be brought. It is meant as a check on malicious prosecution by the state. In the US, it is very easy to secure a GJ indictment, b/c no exculpatory evidence is presented. We have a famous saying, the GJ will indict a ham sandwich. Tho, sometimes they do not indict, such as the famous Sandwich Guy. If the charges are too absurd.
Jeffrey’s page suggests reaching out to Virginia and request to drop the charges. NAL, so I IDK how much impact that has. I guess it can’t hurt? Anyone who does that, I strongly suggest to be polite. Do not rant. Make your argument genuinely and briefly. Whoever reads it is not bringing the charges. Rude does more harm than good.
He has received over $41K donations as of the time of this post.
Job creator.
