The first Jurassic Park movie is all time one of the greatest films ever made with the special effects still holding up to this day. The 2nd film was still very enjoyable in my opinion but it was just a cookie cutter sequel not bad, not good. The 3rd film wasn’t great at all. But compared to the rest of the series the 3rd film is basically the godfather.

As another personal pick the 1st blade movie is a hood classic good. The other 2 not so much.

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    Is there any what gets better? There are good sequels, but once it becomes movie franchise, it all turns to shit. Sometimes faster, sometimes slower.

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    The Matrix.

    Not sure how that isn’t mentioned yet!

    First movie was a masterpiece that became a classic, the rest were completely unnecessary.

    When my brother showed The Matrix to his kid, she asked “Is there another one?” and he said “No.”

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      I can respect the fourth one. Sure, it was a terrible movie but it feels like a deliberate piss take on the idea of reviving the franchise. And I can respect that.

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        I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking that. It was so bad, so so bad… But yeah I couldn’t help but feel the wachowski sister that did it (if I’m not wrong the other one didn’t participate) just dit it to spite the studio for trying to make a moneygrab movie.

        Having said that, despite the 2nd and 3rd movies not being great by any means compared to the first one, I do still enjoy them, like a guilty pleasure kinda thing.

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          IIRC in the first half hour they explicitly shit talk the execs wanting a sequel so it’s quite obvious it’s a middle finger to Warner bros.

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          The 2nd and 3rd ones are still fun, action-packed movies with ground-breaking effects. The Matrix set an impossibly high bar and it was not originally planned to be a sequel, let alone a trilogy. They also whipped them together much faster, so in that context, I think they did a great job.

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          Huh. Douglas Adams did something similar when his publisher kept pressuring him to make another Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy book.
          “STOP MAKING ME WRITE THESE”

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          I said I can respect it, not that it’s good. It feels like a deliberate attempt to torpedo the revival of a series that really didn’t need to be revived. That’s what I can respect, not the movie on its own merits.

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      I saw the original Matrix like once and never watched the sequels, so I sat down and watched them all recently. The hate for the sequels is way overblown. Apart from the bad CGI in the second, I thought they were great sequels that took the story in interesting directions.

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        The problem I have with the Matrix sequels…1. they’re too far up their own ass. The original was a little up its own ass but it was up the part of its own ass that mattered for the story it was telling. Reloaded and Revelations are up their whole ass. “Love is a word.” 🙄 2. The original is a very straightforward hero’s journey in which deciding to answer the call is the ultimate key to the hero’s power. The sequels are about fate and inevitability and how basically no decision can ever matter. So we’re sorry to have bothered you.

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        I think some of the fights just started feeling extra stupid. In particular I’m thinking of the multiple smiths in the park and the final one with him in the rain.

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      • The Lord of the Rings was very consistent. Many people think that Return of the King is the best one.
      • Knives Out had a rather disappointing second part but the third one is amazing.

      Yeah, that’s all I can think of right now.

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        Lord of the Rings barely counts, because not only were all three books out and classics before the movies started (obviously), but the three movies were basically worked on at the same time. It’s nuts, but somehow they managed to do it.

        So it’s not like they released the first, got crazy hype, and then phoned everyone up and said “electric Boogaloo, you in?”. They’d already shot most of the second and third by the time the first came out, as I recall.

        Also I really liked Glass Onion 😛

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          My main criticism about Glass Onion is that the twist only works because Blanc knows something from the start that the audience can’t really figure out on their own. I prefer detective stories where the main character has the same opportunities to gather information as I have and if I pay close enough attention, I can figure out most of what happened before the big reveal.

          But I’m glad that you liked it. Shows that the series caters to different tastes.

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          At least to me and my friends who watched it with me. See my other reply for an explanation why. But of course, tastes differ and there seem to be quite a few people on here who liked it.

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      I’m just thinking in big franchises, because I’m not a well-schooled film-nerd. But even I can think of a lot of examples of sequels better than the originals.

      It’s a matter of taste, but I think Rocky 2 is the strongest film in the franchise. I think it’s more commonly believed that Aliens is a stronger film than Alien. Evil Dead 2 is better than Evil Dead, but that might not count since its a soft reboot. Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan is pretty much a classic example. Terminator 2 is a very different movie than Terminator 1, making comparison weird but it’s usually regarded as better. Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 2 is arguably stronger than Spider-Man, though obviously 3 was a bit of a mess.

      Going to put this in a separate section. Admittedly, whether this should count is arguable. Still, If you count Marvel movies as direct sequels to others, it gets ridiculously easy: Thor: Ragnarok is so much better than all the other Thor movies its kind of nuts. Winter Soldier is stronger than First Avenger and Civil War might be better than both. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 is the strongest film in that franchise.

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      Star Wars original trilogy. All three are fantastic but Empire and ROTJ are better both because of budget and having superior directors behind the camera. George has a great imagination but should not be allowed to be the one who brings his stories to life. I’d also offer that out of the Prequels, ROTS is far superior to I & II and is in roughly the same league as the OT. And then there’s Rogue One; oh it’s beautiful.

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    I felt bad for Lost World, because Crighton went out of his way to write a novel that was a sequel to the first movie, not the first book, and then Spielberg just basically ignored it like it never happened.

    I wanted to not see the chameleon dinosaurs, damn it!

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    Home Alone

    Home Alone: In New York

    Home Alone: No Macauly

    Home Alone: There’s a fourth one?

    Home Alone 5.

    Home Sweet Home Alone: Exclusive to Disney+

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      I feel like the matrix 2 is similar to jurassic park 2. Very clearly inferior, but enjoyable enough to not be a complete waste of time.

      I’m saying that, I’ll say that JP 2 is better than matrix 2. I’ll happily watch JP 2 again, probably with my kids at some point, but if not then on my own… But I would be happy whether I see matrix 2 again or not.

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        I very much enjoy Matrix 2… It has some amazing fight scenes (neo vs the vampires), some cool new characters (The Merovingian, the Twins, Persephone, Niobe…) and I think it’s a fun movie, even though it’s clearly not as deep as the first one.

        It’s a shame they never released a third one though 🙄

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    Tron. It ends with tossing out the one before and letting Jared Leto get his stink all over it.

    Marvel Cinematic Universe should have stopped sometime before Phase 4 (Eternals, Black Widow, Wakanda Forever, Multiverse of Madness).

    The Matrix should have ended at 1.

    The Jason Bourne movies should have ended when Jason Bourne’s story was concluded, without extending it to Aaron Cross’s story, played by Jeremy Renner.

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      Endgame was iconic, genuinely fun and an incredible accomplishment. I would love to have ended there, even have the spiderman movie to show the repurcussions and coking to terms with what happened and showing that the universe continues. It would be a great cap to end with what ended up being a spiderman origin film.

      I liked Loki and a few others, could have been considered spinoffs in the vein of dealing with the aftermath.

      Then reboot

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        It was supposed to be.

        They wanted to make 3 movies but they were told to do one so they squished it into a single movie. When it did really well they were told they could make the other two and they had to come up with new stories.

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      Long ago, in a galaxy far away…

      …in this specific area, only pertaining to these 2-3 groups of people and no one else, anywhere else, ever despite there being an entire galaxy to fuck about in and about 20k years worth of lore.

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    Saw. The first one is a brilliant psychological horror movie. The rest drift more towards body horror, but each one gets worse and dumber than the previous one (except maybe Saw X, the last one)

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      My wife and I saw the first Saw in theaters. The ending had everyone gasping. It was a wonderful popcorn flick.

      We later saw the 2nd movie in theaters. We HATED it. I thought it was one of the worst movies I would ever see.

      I later watched Saw 3 on a streaming service. I thought it was one of the worst movies I would ever see.

      I later watched Saw 4…

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      The first movie was a complete package that told a story well, and where it ended was the right place to end it all.

      But of course, money.

      Really tarnished my feelings about the first movie and I don’t think I could even watch it the same way anymore.

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      I thought 3 was a deal better than 2. 2 was generic Hollywood schlock that dragged in the middle; 3 at least attempted some interesting things, and even bordered on artsy at times.

      1 was, of course, the best. Haven’t seen 4 and 5.

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        I see 2 and 3 as one continuous story. Lord Cutler Beckett is basically the personification of capitalism and industrialism. He spends his time killing or taking over these “free” people who all do whatever they want whenever they want with no masters and no one telling them what to do, and subjugating them under the yoke of the changing new world.

        Idk I’m kinda high right now. I like Beckett as a villain, because he represents certain aspects of the human spirit and he is at the end just a dude. He’s not an immortal squid-man and he’s not an undead were-skeleton.

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      I actually thought 4 was better than 2 and 3. Not that 4 was very good, but I thought 2 and 3 suffered from an attempt to, “trilogize,” the series and make it a grand epic. It was clear by the end of the third movie that they didn’t know where they were going with all of the plot threads they’d set up like Calypso, the Brethren Court, the Jack/Elizabeth/Will love triangle they were hinting at…just way to many ideas and very little payoff. At least 4 told a coherent story in one movie, even if it wasn’t a very good story.