The Monroe Doctrine is a United States foreign policy position that opposes European colonialism in the Western Hemisphere. It holds that any intervention in the political affairs of the Americas by foreign powers is a potentially hostile act against the United States. The doctrine was central to American grand strategy in the 20th century.
President James Monroe first articulated the doctrine on December 2, 1823, during his seventh annual State of the Union Address to Congress (though it was not named after him until 1850). At the time, nearly all Spanish colonies in the Americas had either achieved or were close to independence. Monroe asserted that the New World and the Old World were to remain distinctly separate spheres of influence, and thus further efforts by European powers to control or influence sovereign states in the region would be viewed as a threat to U.S. security. In turn, the United States would recognize and not interfere with existing European colonies nor meddle in the internal affairs of European countries.
Honestly I think that is far too generous a description for Monroe, but it blatantly is Anti-Imperialist as described in that text.
I acknowledge the CIA have done horrible things in South America, but the USA has not forcefully consumed more land since the 1850s, ignoring small island nations caught in disputes such as the USA Guano Islands Act much of which was later reclaimed by the UK, and the lands taken control over during WWII after the Dai Nippon Empire had colonized them and then lost grounds during said war.
You can just admit you’re wrong you know. Focusing on the territorial expansion, absolute laughable nonsense btw when talking about one of the largest nations to ever exist, instead of the absolute ruler that is technically required just makes you look willfully ignorant.
As of this moment, as I type this comment, none of Venezuelan land has been seized. It isn’t chess where you can extract a leader and suddenly the war ends.
The war in Vietnam started with French troops fighting alongside resistance to a dictatorship, the dictatorship which had launched all out war against south Vietnamese towns and villages in 1968, ultimately they failed and the US refused to withdraw from the war for many more years as a result of the incompetent Nixon administration.
Even if America had won that war, it’s questionable whether you could consider it an Empire, because USA would have to then control Vietnam after liberating it from said dictatorship.
But back to your claim that the USA is the Empire in the Star Wars movies, what the fuck does that make the Viet Cong? Princess Leia?
Bro come on, USA is like the very definition of an empire. Even people who like empires think the US is an empire. Like do you think we were born yesterday?
Stupid, wants to join a military for killing Russians and Chinese citizens, and defends American interests when “legally done via Congress”. He’s a Democrat in every way.
Got it. I assumed bad faith because assuming people are that fucking stupid without visible brain damage would lead to me being a worse person real quick, so blocked it.
He’s a big moron who literally has posted articles that disagreed with his theories and beliefs because of a cherry picked paragraph in a article that debunks it.
He thinks .world is infested with Tankies on the admin level now.
The only territories that the USA controls are ones with US Citizens. Other territories under their protection are self-governing commonwealths, which are over a century old (or a result of lands formerly colonized by the WWII Japanese Empire), few, and far between.
Puerto Ricans have been US Citizens for over a hundred years and there has been a lot of support among Democrats for making them a state with senators and congressmen. The two most recent territories were Northern Mariana Islands in 1986 which was controlled by the UN following WWII during which they were controlled by the Dai Nippon Empire which attacked the USA, and before that U.S. Virgin Islands in 1917 which were sold to the USA by Denmark.
The USA does not own colonies. Commonwealth territories are self governing.
The dollar as the reserve currency does serve to extract wealth from other countries and bring it to America. Nato doctrine is explicit that in event of a war involving Nato every other member country’s military falls under US command.
The US also has this agreement with South Korea. In event of war the South Korean military would take their orders from the US military.
I think America is an Empire but it is a much more benign form of empire than the British or French pre WW2, for now. Events like Iraq and now Venezuela are changing that.
The dollar as the reserve currency does serve to extract wealth from other countries and bring it to America. Nato doctrine is explicit that in event of a war involving Nato every other member country’s military falls under US command.
Not how NATO works, exactly. When a NATO member is attacked all NATO members have the obligation to defend that nation, it’s unlikely that they would start taking orders from the pentagon but rather the territory who was attacked and/or invoked the articles.
To describe the world’s largest anti-war mutual defence pact as a Hostile Empire only proves that you’re in favor of the actual Hostile Empires impeded by such an anti-war mutual defence pact.
Fun Fact: Donald Trump, who is the person responsible for the recent invasion of Venezuela, opposes NATO and has tried to withdraw from it multiple times.
Did I say hostile empire? You said that. I said more benign than previous empires.
I would rather live in the US than Russia or China, and If I didn’t already live here, I would rather my country align with the US than Russia or China.
That doesn’t mean there haven’t been costs. Those cost might be worth paying. I don’t think the UK, Canada, or Germany have been fools to align with the US, even if they may be rethinking that alignment now.
I wouldn’t describe the USA as an empire.
Yet.
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Don’t bother trying to prove Banjo wrong, he is in too deep in his own bubble of how America is good when it invaded countries.
From your source:
Honestly I think that is far too generous a description for Monroe, but it blatantly is Anti-Imperialist as described in that text.
I acknowledge the CIA have done horrible things in South America, but the USA has not forcefully consumed more land since the 1850s, ignoring small island nations caught in disputes such as the USA Guano Islands Act much of which was later reclaimed by the UK, and the lands taken control over during WWII after the Dai Nippon Empire had colonized them and then lost grounds during said war.
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Except for the part where an Empire involves conquering foreign lands.
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Manifest Destiny…
That was over by 1850. Nobody from that time is alive today.
Because we committed genocide on their culture. Jesus Christ.
You can just admit you’re wrong you know. Focusing on the territorial expansion, absolute laughable nonsense btw when talking about one of the largest nations to ever exist, instead of the absolute ruler that is technically required just makes you look willfully ignorant.
It’s history that proves him wrong, what did you expect from the man who thinks .world is now infected with Tankies on the admin level.
The United States has invaded more countries than anyone else. And he doesn’t like that it’s being called out.
Britain would like a word…
(Or do you think the folks they invaded don’t count because their societies weren’t organized in the white definition of “countries?”)
Fair. Forgot them. Low on sleep.
Haiti is not a US Territory. Philippines is not a US Territory. Honduras is not a US Territory.
Hawaii became a territory in 1900 and a state in 1959.
You see how if the US were an Empire, like China or the USSR, then they might have actually colonized somebody this century, right?
Refer to the comment above:
Natives, Mexico, Venezuela…
As of this moment, as I type this comment, none of Venezuelan land has been seized. It isn’t chess where you can extract a leader and suddenly the war ends.
Ah, that makes it okay then. Good job. When we stole heads of state before that was cool too!
What Trump did was wrong, and my sincerest wish is that he gets flogged for it, but the USA is not currently an Empire.
If only George Lucas had some interview where he exposes what inspired him to write the Emipire like such…
I can see how a scifi author taking notes from real life to adapt to fiction changes real life to perfectly match that fiction.
May George have mercy on our souls. /sarcasm
The first three movies are Vietnam. The Empire was America. He didn’t change reality. He wrote about it.
The war in Vietnam started with French troops fighting alongside resistance to a dictatorship, the dictatorship which had launched all out war against south Vietnamese towns and villages in 1968, ultimately they failed and the US refused to withdraw from the war for many more years as a result of the incompetent Nixon administration.
Even if America had won that war, it’s questionable whether you could consider it an Empire, because USA would have to then control Vietnam after liberating it from said dictatorship.
But back to your claim that the USA is the Empire in the Star Wars movies, what the fuck does that make the Viet Cong? Princess Leia?
The rebels are Viet Cong. This is from a famous interview with Lucas.
Bro come on, USA is like the very definition of an empire. Even people who like empires think the US is an empire. Like do you think we were born yesterday?
An Empire controls multiple territories. The USA does not.
Are you profoundly stupid or just lying?
Stupid, wants to join a military for killing Russians and Chinese citizens, and defends American interests when “legally done via Congress”. He’s a Democrat in every way.
Got it. I assumed bad faith because assuming people are that fucking stupid without visible brain damage would lead to me being a worse person real quick, so blocked it.
He’s a big moron who literally has posted articles that disagreed with his theories and beliefs because of a cherry picked paragraph in a article that debunks it.
He thinks .world is infested with Tankies on the admin level now.
Hitlerian media consumption. Spreading that was the worst most devastating thing that asshole ever did.
Yep, Banjo is literally a 1936 Hitler-ite just in Blue Democrat flavor. He’s said he wants to shoot and kill the enemies of the United States.
The only territories that the USA controls are ones with US Citizens. Other territories under their protection are self-governing commonwealths, which are over a century old (or a result of lands formerly colonized by the WWII Japanese Empire), few, and far between.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States
Come on
Puerto Ricans have been US Citizens for over a hundred years and there has been a lot of support among Democrats for making them a state with senators and congressmen. The two most recent territories were Northern Mariana Islands in 1986 which was controlled by the UN following WWII during which they were controlled by the Dai Nippon Empire which attacked the USA, and before that U.S. Virgin Islands in 1917 which were sold to the USA by Denmark.
The USA does not own colonies. Commonwealth territories are self governing.
The dollar as the reserve currency does serve to extract wealth from other countries and bring it to America. Nato doctrine is explicit that in event of a war involving Nato every other member country’s military falls under US command.
The US also has this agreement with South Korea. In event of war the South Korean military would take their orders from the US military.
I think America is an Empire but it is a much more benign form of empire than the British or French pre WW2, for now. Events like Iraq and now Venezuela are changing that.
Not how NATO works, exactly. When a NATO member is attacked all NATO members have the obligation to defend that nation, it’s unlikely that they would start taking orders from the pentagon but rather the territory who was attacked and/or invoked the articles.
To describe the world’s largest anti-war mutual defence pact as a Hostile Empire only proves that you’re in favor of the actual Hostile Empires impeded by such an anti-war mutual defence pact.
Fun Fact: Donald Trump, who is the person responsible for the recent invasion of Venezuela, opposes NATO and has tried to withdraw from it multiple times.
Did I say hostile empire? You said that. I said more benign than previous empires.
I would rather live in the US than Russia or China, and If I didn’t already live here, I would rather my country align with the US than Russia or China.
That doesn’t mean there haven’t been costs. Those cost might be worth paying. I don’t think the UK, Canada, or Germany have been fools to align with the US, even if they may be rethinking that alignment now.
The context of this discussion has been quite clear, imperialism is bad.