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Any tldr? I hate watching a video of something that, probably, can be summarized in a single fucking paragraph.
I’m also not always able to watch videos compared to just reading an article
On June 10th any game purchases people made through Amazon’s Luna service will be removed, with no refunds. On June 3rd they’re ending the “bring your own library” feature where you could link to certain outside accounts (GOG, etc.) and get those to stream on Luna.
There’s more about Buy button shenanigans and digital ownership, but that’s the part the headline refers to.
Say what you will about Stadia, but at least Google gave everyone full refunds when that shut down.
Yup, and in some cases where applicable they also gave you the keys to specific publisher libraries, like I got Assassin’s Creed Origins and Odyssey added to my Uplay account with my saves intact right before Stadia shut down.
You can hate Google for lots of things, but when it comes to Stadia they handled it right.
So people have “90 days” to what? Play the games? Before they disappear?
To grab your save data. The purchased games themselves disappear on June 10th. There will still be a selection of games to stream (Game Pass/Xcloud style) after that date, but you have to wonder how long that’ll last.
This is where blockchains can be useful. Buy once, valid everywhere always with a little support.
The string of bits doesn’t have to be part of an expensive blockchain though, it can just as easily be a generated uuid. In either case, the technology relies on multiple parties honouring your claim.
Hell it could be tied to an email address and nothing else.
Yes it needs support, as almost all blockchains do, they are public consensus models. All it needs is for a token to connect to a specific piece of media. You prove ownership of that token and the streaming service honors your ownership. You move steaming services? They still honor your ownership. Likely also needs legislative support to enforce honoring the token and enforce studios to provide same access to all distributors.
I’m torn between not wanting universal DRM and wanting to break up platform specific DRM.
I think there are 2 types of drm, one is invasive and the other is permissive. Everything needs some sort of Auth and permission drm, and usually it sits in a company dB and if they go under or remove it, you lose Auth. I think that type of system can be better under a blockchain model, moving universal ownership to a decentralized ledger. Services still must recognize the ledger as valid, but then no single provider is the arbiter of your ownership and Auth.
do you store entire game binaries and assets in your fucking blockchain? fucking 150gb games in the fucking blockchain? how fucking big is this thing? who hosts it?
No, it seems you and many others fundamentally misunderstand that a blockchain is a distributed ledger as primary functionality, not a data store as such. It stores proof of ownership, that you purchased it from an authorized registered distributor, that’s it. Just to be thorough, all ledgers require further external consensus for functionality.
In this case, a service (who stores and sends the big file) must recognize your token as ownership. What this solves is that when movie x is bought from Amazon and moves to Streamio and then moves to Paramount, you can load your token into Paramount and Paramount can see your token was created by warner brothers, so they can legally serve you Blazing Saddles without contacting Amazon or Streamio, which since has gone out of business.
Today, when they move licenses or whatever else happens, you lose whatever you bought. With a distributed ledger you automatically have proof of purchase to any entity that is able and willing (or legally forced) to use that ledger for validation, and no single entity can just erase your ownership like they can and do today.
Cool, a proof of ownership database.
Doesn’t do a damn thing when the owned data is removed or when the host decides they don’t care about that particular period of ownership database.
It allows you to easily move to another host which isn’t otherwise possible. Your criticisms are endemic to all media, so are moot. You personally don’t have to stream, you can buy a physical copy and rip it and store it locally, be my guest.
why would there be another host if they dob’t receive compensation for serving me the content I already paid someone else for?
You have a string of bits. If the service shuts down that wont help.
Really appreciate GOG’s model instead, just give me a locally installed executable that doesn’t depend on a storefront.
Doesn’t apply to streaming media. You’re free to cache your media if you can store it, since you own it, but that’s not true of all people and all media. How does steam verify you own something from gog if gog shuts down? They don’t unless a distributed ledger exists, then they could.
I agree. YouTube thumbnail is absolute clickbait cancer, now with AI to make it more abhorrent
not to mention a video with such an offensive thumbnail
If you can’t be bothered to watch or find an article yourself, I can’t be bothered to summarise 🤷♂️
Yeah let’s just give more views to YouTube. Shut the fuck up with your shit attitude bud.
He has a point. I’ma preemptively block you, you sound like a complete ass hole I have zero interest in ever dealing with.
What an unnecessarily rude and aggressive comment. Yikes.
I think it was the right amount of rudeness and aggressiveness.
What a bootlicky and corporate apologist comment. Yikes.
“I’ll go to a video community, open a community post, complain that a video was shared and demand others summarise the video for me”.
And I have the “shit” attitude. Sure bud
I did not demand anything :)
This was in all so…
This comment alone should end the thread lol insane that it’s getting downvoted
Nobody asked you to not summarize, but here you are.
Without the context or summary finding info is going to be a crap shoot and potentially a waste of time. Meanwhile the person posting the vid, who has the context, could simply provide some of that in non-video form. Even just a one line summary.
We’re on [email protected] , not world news or something. If you wanted articles, don’t go to a video community. Simple as.
Maybe but context is useful regardless. Improved posting standards just makes for a better community.
Also this post popped up in all feed so it’s not like you’re an isolated little pocket.
Well shit let’s turn off the comments here too since text based discussions aren’t allowed in /c/videos
They knocked off kurzgesagt’s style and made it look so clickbaity. So gross.
I’ll defend Infographics here. These guys do a great job with their content IMO. Yes, the titles and thumbnails are always kinda cringe but they have been putting out good stuff consistently for years and do so without AI. They always get shit for their titles but the content itself is way better than what you’d expect usually.
That’s good to know that they aren’t just using AI to mimic Kurzgesagt and that their content is legit. Thanks.
I might give them a try but I really can’t stand clickbait titles and thumbnails to the point I just disregard them outright in a futile effort to discourage such behaviour.
Yeah playing the clickbait game is one thing, but they’re outright hoping to trick people into thinking they’re another channel. It’s the only reason I clicked through (and immediately backed out)
Interesting to note. I saw they were ripping off the kurzgesagt style and blocked the channel immediately. If they are legit I may check them out.
and people wonder how steam does so well.
Steam has the exact same setup, you don’t own anything there either. It is all perpetual limited licenses. The only difference is that Steam has so far kept up the illusion of ownership.
This should be legally disallowed, “Buy” means ownership.
You are both correct. I’ll usually double buy my favourites. One of steam early on, especially for Linux compatibility ease, then on gog years later on sale.
Don’t you get the game files on steam tho?
Some times. Officially, all games on Steam include DRM and are supposed to run except if launched from the Steam launcher. Some developers do not bother getting that DRM working correctly.
Yes ypu do and ypu can run them offline outside of the steam launcher. Not the same as cloud games
I think as long as everyone acts in good faith, it’s not an issue.
If you truly did own your games on Steam, then you might have legal grounds to sue over something as silly as server downtime.
Furthermore, if you outright threatened Valve staff or something, ownership would mean they would be unable to ban your account.
I’m not claiming this as fact and I could be wrong but not even GOG let’s you ‘buy’ games; just games without DRM?
Having games on your disk without DRM. That IS ownership. There are ways for Steam to make it so customers own games, but it is not in their best interest to do so.
Valve is not very different from any other company. The only difference is that since Valve is privately owned they can afford to make long-term plans, unlike publicly traded companies which have a fiduciary responsibility to chase profits every quarter.
There has to come a point with this shit where you just roll your eyes and blame the people who were dumb enough to invest in this shit, again.
Hell, this isnt even the first time Amazon has taken away games you purchased on Amazon.
Yup. I point anyone interested to slsk. I share 7000 movies on there, couple hundred series, 400k songs. Nzb and newshosting is also very nice.
I’ll never buy another digital item like this unless I’m desperate.
Yep. I’ve had so many digital CDs and game downloads I’ve bought on Amazon (not recently, long time ago), and amazon basically went “Welp, we’re not carrying this shit anymore, fuck you its gone” so all the games I paid for, gone and can no longer access.
All the music I paid for, gone and can no longer access.
Digital downloads are a scam, digital goods are not owned goods as long as you need to have someone elses server be accessed in the process.
GOG.
Offline download of the installer. Its yours.
I have a ton of stuff on my gog account also, makes it easy to install on bazzite
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Streamfab FTW
Not mine. I’ve got my library locally.
Scamazon doing Scamazon things? Don’t say it be like it do!
Just to save you a click and a minute… the headline is misleading. They’re talking about certain games on the Luna cloud service (whatever that is), NOT your Kindle library or anything else.
