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Oh no! That’s a new one.

What browser are you using? Does refreshing the page help? It’s working for me on Chrome and Firefox, so you might try a different browser and see. My guess is it’s not a fundamental bug in the game, but some sort of interaction with a browser extension you have, or something like that.

Yep, if people playtest the tooltips and still feel they want a further step, we can have different settings for it.

This was a while ago but I think the idea was the way gamedev works is the game is either just fine or a rare smash hit? Haha. And we just wanted to mix it up.

Makes sense to make it toggleable, we’ll see how it plays.

Yeah, I definitely don’t want to lock in the translations, for the reasons you mentioned! I don’t think it’s possible anyway - what if someone phrased their translation differently than what we happened to put as the answer?

That’s similar to the tooltip idea, except I’m requiring the player to hover on the word to see it.

I think that’s important so you get a chance to think of the translation yourself before the answer is revealed. Of course we can see how people feel in playtesting.

Yep, I discussed it in the last Trevosa devlog.

Thanks! The biggest hint to understanding solaam is in the Final Note.

Thanks! It’s just vanilla HTML/JS, which I always use for game jams since it’s super fast to pull together and works well for a UI-based game.

Thanks! And to correct the record, the Steam version of Roottrees has totally original and great art (as well as a whole new segment of the game beyond the Itch version!)

Check out The Scepter Crisis document too.

Those are two words that don’t have a 1-1 translation in English, but looking closely at the examples in the tree should reveal the distinction.

Indeed! There’s another nonbinary character too.

Thank you so much for donating! 💜 I’m glad you liked the format, I’d like to do more with it someday too! (Though for now we’re focused on our latest narrative deduction game, The Archives of Trevosa.)

Good thoughts on the dates! Each document does have a date internally, and I was wondering if we should just show that to the player (given that documents are already ordered.) It might add an interesting layer of puzzling to ask the player to work out some specific puzzles using that date information… We’ll have to try it and see how it works out.

This post is covering all the changes we’ve made since the jam, not just recent ones, so sounds like you might have already seen it - if you were able to enter the True Heir title, then there’s nothing new beyond that.

And for sure, we’re hoping to add a few more cases of words without clear 1-1 translations in the expanded version!

Fun concept and art style!

If you don’t mind feedback, I had some UI complaints: the textbox text constantly changing size/wrapping was very distracting, and when I was dragging a chess piece, I expected to drop it so its base would land on the target square, but I guess my finger had to land on the target square instead. On mobile, I didn’t love having to zoom in and out of the different times - it would be nice to always have one board centered, but with a timeline that lets me switch or scrub between which time period shows.

Keep it up, this is fun flavor and an interesting game!

So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the thoughts, and I can say that those things are indeed on our list for a future update.

Thank you! I’ve super busy with other games, so I’m a little behind on adding in the translations I have so far… But I’d really like to and was intended to do that by the end of the month. So I’d love to discuss adding Spanish, would be happy to talk on discord.

If you’re trying to find all the documents, enable the undiscovered documents count under the Archive Filter section for a nudge on which documents have terms you should search for next.

For solving the tree, there’s no walkthrough to my knowledge, but you can ask here (use Rot13 or other spoiler method) or in Jamwitch’s discord if you’re stuck on something!

If you do, please share!

That’s up to you to discover from clues in the documents! 🙂

Correct answers are only locked in in groups of 3, so you’ll still need two more people correct before they all lock in and it goes to 3/30.

Hi folks! I’ve finally made a Jamwitch discord specifically for folks to discuss our games. Please join if you’d like - you can share your results (try it, it’s low pressure but creates a nice sense of community) and chat about either Yliad or The Importance of Being Earnest.

Here’s the Discord invite.

Thank you! And noted about the font size. For now, zooming in should work - I just fixed the tree so it can scroll horizontally if needed.

I don’t know if we’d go for that idea, since we’d like the characters to keep their identities as characters and for players to be able to discuss the story, which would be hard if the characters were shifting around - but fun idea!

Thanks!

For corporate politics, or at least office politics, try the very entertaining and engrossing narrative deduction game A Case of Fraud. 🙂

I love to hear that, thanks! Yeah, sorting was the plan from the beginning, if we hadn’t had a bug with it. In the model of Her Story, it means that the search limit more readily shows you early documents, so it’s more of a challenge to track down the later documents - that gives the game some structure while still being overall non-linear in what you happen upon when. But I appreciate that there’s a fun aspect to having to reconstruct the order yourself too!

Fun idea about the pronunciation guide! In the context of the game we have the documents and tree only, no Trevosan to talk to, so I guess it’s up to the individual player. 🙂

(Rot13) V guvax lbhe dhrfgvba vf n ovg bs n fcbvyre fvapr vg’f abg vzzrqvngryl boivbhf gurl’er gval ng nyy, znlor lbh jbhyqa’g zvaq hfvat Ebg13 gb uvqr vg?

Ohg lrnu, jr unir gurve cbegenvgf, fb jr pna frr gurl’er gval crbcyr! Jr jrer vafcverq ol “Gur Obeebjref” puvyqera’f frevrf, nzbat bgure gnyrf bs gval crbcyr.

It sounds like you may have the right titles per name, but the names in the wrong place. Gel frnepuvat sbe Ylfan gb svaq fbzr pyhrf nobhg jurer Ybanen vf va gur gerr.

Notetaking per word is on my list for a future iteration, but I hadn’t considered notetaking per person! Cool idea, thanks!

Our direct inspirations are The Roottrees Are Dead and Her Story. The Return of the Obra Dinn is also foundational. If you want another small, fun family tree deduction game, try A Case of Fraud. You should also try Type Help and The Red Pearls of Borneo for a different and super fun narrative deduction mechanic. And we (Jamwitch) have two other small narrative deduction games, The Case of the Dungeon Descent and My Friends the Monster Trainers.

That’s what I’ve got off the top of my head! Enjoy!

I got you, I knew that would be a possibility with the update so I made sure the leftovers can still lock in!

It’s a bit of a steep start to get going for sure! If you haven’t, try searching the additional titles you see in the tree (cynai-til, etc) to see what you can learn about those people.

Yeah my thoughts exactly! I’m definitely thinking a tooltip will work since it’s ready access to the info if you need it, but you can also test your own memory of it.

Naq lrnu, jr nyfb jnag cynlref gb unir gb gel abiry sbezf bs jbeqf ol svthevat bhg gur zbecubybtl! Sbe abj, V znqr fher rirelguvat vf npprffvoyr whfg ol pyvpxvat gb frnepu, fvapr vg zvtug or n whzc gb punatr sebz pyvpxvat gb glcvat va lbhe bja guvat, ohg va n (fgvyy ulcbgurgvpny, bs pbhefr) rkcnaqrq irefvba bs gur tnzr V jbhyq ybir gb unir fbzr zber punyyratvat yrncf yvxr gung. V’z guvaxvat nal jbeq lbh pyvpx be frnepu sbe vf nqqrq gb n tybffnel jurer lbh pna nqq lbhe bja genafyngvba/abgrf, cre vaqvivqhny sbez - ol yvfgvat gurz fvqr ol fvqr gur zbecubybtl fubhyq orpbzr pyrne naq zbgvingr lbh gb svyy va tncf ol frnepuvat sbe lrg-hafrra sbezf.

I appreciate hearing about typos so a top level thread would have been perfectly good, but I got you now and these are fixed! Thank you!

Amazing, I love reading this since that’s the experience I hope people will have!

I was definitely thinking about Chants of Senaar - when playing it, I got the tip to play in “hard mode” where you don’t use the in-game notebook, so you have to note and learn the words yourself rather than relying on its automatic gloss. I can’t recommend that approach to playing Senaar enough because it really feels like you’re learning the language.

So in a future iteration of Trevosa, although I want to add better language note-taking functionality, I don’t plan to have it fully replace the words with your translation (at least, not by default).

Update: the update is in, we added a couple more documents to make things clearer and now you need to specify who is the true heir to reach the end.

Thank you Sen, we hope to do so if we expand it further.

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! And yep, just in time to miss everyone who tried it this weekend, I’ve added a final step of setting who is the true heir. 🙂

If that’s the case then it might be a bug! I’ll double check it. Thanks!