capitalist excess. the concept of a shared universe between massive Hollywood blockbusters is cool. Even better if you can spin it into different media types. A huge shared universe is cool!
Oh fucking woops you did it too much and now there's 300 hours of content to watch, and its all the same shit. mediocre movie with a post credits stinger. over and over again.
a restrained approach probably would have unironically stopped after the first avengers movie. they achieved their goal by then, everything after is just excess.
I don't even mind there being a huge elaborate web of relations and context, the real issue imo is that it's all just fucking slop and self reference and The Reddit Idea of Being Epic, meaning that the movie isn't here introducing you to a whole mythos of connected stories like it purports, it's just giving fucking homework of watching old shitty movies and and shows to get shallow references in new shitty movies and shows, and there's no real purpose to it except to make you pay more money to consume more product. It doesn't have interesting ideas or messages, it just wants you to clap when the thing explodes and action man says the line that he said 5 movies ago and also 3 movies ago.
you're 100% right, if they waited longer, the kids who watched until Avengers 1 will be "omg I loved that" and buy up whole theaters at 22 years old or something.
The first Avengers movie is when it went beyond post-credits scenes. A restrained approach had stopped at endgame. And also it wouldnt have made age of ultron, that thing was pure filler.
These movies also look like pure shit, they want to make them so quick they don't even bother with acting or VFX (compare the effects of the 1989 Batman Movie or even the 2002 Spider-Man Movie with any modern MCU movie), hell even the lore in these movies are sometimes not even close to the comics.
I was so confused after watching Marvel movies. Not including X men, I've only seen guardians of the galaxy vol. 1, black panther, one of the captain Americas, and the spider man that had Toby Mcguire come back. All CGI souless junk.
I remember when people made fun of George Lucas during the Prequels for the mass usage of CGI, and nowadays the MCU movies look worse than those movies.
I remember when Star Wars: The Phantom Menace was held up as the pinnacle of bad movies and widely mocked. When the more recent Star Wars sequels came out, I watched them and they were terrible. I mentioned it to someone recently and said that the new films are so bad that they make The Phantom Menace look good, which they rejected based on a weak memory of TPM that is tainted by all the fan hate from the era. We ended up watching TPM together, and they were bewildered by how good it was compared both to their memory of it and to the newer films.
I can only imagine what it's like compared to modern Marvel films.
I think TPM is a ok movie, it does look pretty good for the most part, the plot is ok. It does have some fun stuff and and a lot of nerdy politics stuff too. A lot of it aged really poorly (the accents specially and a lot of the cgi), but I think it's a fun movie to watch. Attack of the Clones had a lot more boring stuff and no one talks about it. RoTS is good though.
I can only imagine what it's like compared to modern Marvel films.
For all the hate George Lucas get, I think at least he knew what he wanted when he started the Prequels and how they would end, unlike the Marvel movies. Lucas' problem is that he clearly didn't knew how to direct dialogue or how to say what he wanted without really boring loredump, and there was very little pushback. Marvel stuff nowadays is just radlib pro-us propaganda (even more than the comics were), with really cheap and bad cgi and barely any acting besides saying funny lines.
The Prequels unironically pioneered how films are currently being made. They got some things wrong because that's what happens when you're on the cutting edge, but everything people were complaining about when those films came out is standard practice now and when somebody films a mid effect with an actual model that's all it takes to get all of the pain piggies in movie message boards clapping.
Most of my fanfiction takes place in the same universe because..... I don't actually remember why I decided that.
Does mean my "Romance novel" happens in the same world as my Rats of NIMH, Redwall, and RWBY fanfictions. Although the latter three occur in simulations, and the "romance novel" and Redwall simulation happens hundreds of years after my author self insert character dies.
......Who needs drugs when you have autism? Now that I've written it out, this is all incredibly convoluted!
capitalist excess. the concept of a shared universe between massive Hollywood blockbusters is cool. Even better if you can spin it into different media types. A huge shared universe is cool!
Oh fucking woops you did it too much and now there's 300 hours of content to watch, and its all the same shit. mediocre movie with a post credits stinger. over and over again.
a restrained approach probably would have unironically stopped after the first avengers movie. they achieved their goal by then, everything after is just excess.
I don't even mind there being a huge elaborate web of relations and context, the real issue imo is that it's all just fucking slop and self reference and The Reddit Idea of Being Epic, meaning that the movie isn't here introducing you to a whole mythos of connected stories like it purports, it's just giving fucking homework of watching old shitty movies and and shows to get shallow references in new shitty movies and shows, and there's no real purpose to it except to make you pay more money to consume more product. It doesn't have interesting ideas or messages, it just wants you to clap when the thing explodes and action man says the line that he said 5 movies ago and also 3 movies ago.
I can't believe they're still at it! If they'd taken a 15 year break, they could have cashed in n nostalgia and rewatches
you're 100% right, if they waited longer, the kids who watched until Avengers 1 will be "omg I loved that" and buy up whole theaters at 22 years old or something.
The first Avengers movie is when it went beyond post-credits scenes. A restrained approach had stopped at endgame. And also it wouldnt have made age of ultron, that thing was pure filler.
That’s such a good way of putting it.
Those movies aren’t an artform: they’re just…content.
These movies also look like pure shit, they want to make them so quick they don't even bother with acting or VFX (compare the effects of the 1989 Batman Movie or even the 2002 Spider-Man Movie with any modern MCU movie), hell even the lore in these movies are sometimes not even close to the comics.
I was so confused after watching Marvel movies. Not including X men, I've only seen guardians of the galaxy vol. 1, black panther, one of the captain Americas, and the spider man that had Toby Mcguire come back. All CGI souless junk.
My favorite hero movie is Chronicle
No way. They're pushing CGI technology, bro.
Doesn't each one just dump actors in front of a green screen and say "ok go?"
Close, they built like a giant dome of screens that they display the background on
I remember when people made fun of George Lucas during the Prequels for the mass usage of CGI, and nowadays the MCU movies look worse than those movies.
I remember when Star Wars: The Phantom Menace was held up as the pinnacle of bad movies and widely mocked. When the more recent Star Wars sequels came out, I watched them and they were terrible. I mentioned it to someone recently and said that the new films are so bad that they make The Phantom Menace look good, which they rejected based on a weak memory of TPM that is tainted by all the fan hate from the era. We ended up watching TPM together, and they were bewildered by how good it was compared both to their memory of it and to the newer films.
I can only imagine what it's like compared to modern Marvel films.
I think TPM is a ok movie, it does look pretty good for the most part, the plot is ok. It does have some fun stuff and and a lot of nerdy politics stuff too. A lot of it aged really poorly (the accents specially and a lot of the cgi), but I think it's a fun movie to watch. Attack of the Clones had a lot more boring stuff and no one talks about it. RoTS is good though.
For all the hate George Lucas get, I think at least he knew what he wanted when he started the Prequels and how they would end, unlike the Marvel movies. Lucas' problem is that he clearly didn't knew how to direct dialogue or how to say what he wanted without really boring loredump, and there was very little pushback. Marvel stuff nowadays is just radlib pro-us propaganda (even more than the comics were), with really cheap and bad cgi and barely any acting besides saying funny lines.
many of those scenes were blended with practical effects and actually hold up today. Some scenes not so much.
The Prequels unironically pioneered how films are currently being made. They got some things wrong because that's what happens when you're on the cutting edge, but everything people were complaining about when those films came out is standard practice now and when somebody films a mid effect with an actual model that's all it takes to get all of the pain piggies in movie message boards clapping.
Most of my fanfiction takes place in the same universe because..... I don't actually remember why I decided that.
Does mean my "Romance novel" happens in the same world as my Rats of NIMH, Redwall, and RWBY fanfictions. Although the latter three occur in simulations, and the "romance novel" and Redwall simulation happens hundreds of years after my author self insert character dies.
......Who needs drugs when you have autism? Now that I've written it out, this is all incredibly convoluted!