Those I know how to use. But this bag, not at all.

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I have zero doubt he would have had there been a level playing field.

Well let’s put it this way, if 400-450 superdelegates had pledged for Sanders before any votes were cast as they did for Clinton, he would have won too. No one can really say the outcome without the ballot box being stuffed prior to the election. It was close enough that these kind of things are enough to sway it.

At any rate, my hopes lie with AOC. No one will be able to accuse her followers of being only “bros” and try to divide the vote by sex. She will probably lose the general election but getting her through the primaries will be a win.

Yes there is definitely something to creating a unified front between both camps, and I have no problem uniting under this banner, at least up until the point we take over the Democratic party in a stable enough way to start splitting hairs on policy.

There are also multiple types of socialism, and socialism doesn’t necessarilly mean government ownership specifically.

That’s why I wish there was better understanding of social democracy.

I think if the real goal was social democracy they’d just call it that. I do think Bernie (as the primary torch bearer of the term), does want to nationalise much of private business in the end, but is starting with standard social democracy to get the ball rolling. Many of the others may actually just be social democrats who are on the Bernie bus because that’s the one going somewhere.

Doesn’t seem extremist to me at all, it’s just not exactly what I’d prefer in the end. I vote for the candidates in it that I can anyway.

I do. And we came very close with Bernie. I would even say that we won, but the party elite simply blocked his nomination. But there’s always next time. I consider the primaries to be far more important than the general election where my state and county has gone blue for decades without much risk otherwise.

Workers can own businesses today, so there’s nothing stopping that from happening. There are lots of worker owned collectives out there. The major difference between Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism is that Democratic Socialism wants to nationalise many categories of business, ie. to have the government run them.

This tends to not go well where it’s been tried because once business and government meld it becomes an unstoppable force that eats everything and has no accountability to anyone or oversight by anyone, and rapidly becomes inefficient and ineffective. I much prefer the Scandinavian way of mass deployment of labor unions, so that labor is a powerful force in it’s own right rather than one that’s ruled by a powerful merged political/business elite.

There are pretty substantial differences.I voted for Bernie so I don’t think they are so substantial as to cause a fight, but I just wish there was better education out there in the US on Social Democracy. It works in Europe and most Americans are blind to it or think Democratic Socialism is the same thing.

Americans. And I can say that as someone who’s lived half his life on each continent. But Europeans probably don’t know what Democratic Socialism is either.

Because they are uninformed. And Democratic socialism is closer to communism than social democracy.

I wish there was an option for Social Democrat, because that’s what fits me. Bernie made Democratic Socialism famous but I don’t think most people who define themselves this way understand the difference.

Yes this is the exact thing I’m interested in. Camera is definitely not something needed here. There are some like this on the market like the MemoMind. I’m waiting for one with progressive lens support like the Even Realities G2 but with audio added.

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Poor Harry Buttle

Poor Harry Buttle

The corporate Dems are probably more to blame for the current round of fascists in office than even the MAGA republicans. MAGA was always there in one way or another, but it took Dems actively subverting the candidate that could beat them handily to put them in power.

The first thing people will do is mix it with cotton and other fibers (if it’s cheap enough to be used at all).