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  • None of this has anything to do with my opinion that framing sick leave as luxurious is harmful.

    we’re agreed on that. but that’s the authors personal opinion. its a fairly retarded one given that tax payers are on the hook regardless because senators have a pension. Even if we wanted to get into the discussion around what is ‘reasonable’ for paid sick leave its completely immaterial to McConnell’s case. The only factor atm his constituents being disenfranchised of their representation.

    Weird that you think being in a coma means you shouldn’t get sick leave tho

    Its weird that you think being in a coma isn’t by definition sick leave. you’re sick and not going to be showing up.

    I think your issue is you’re not distinguishing between two entirely different states:

    • an individual has an issue with a known duration: i.e. flu and you’ll be gone a week, surgery and you’ll be gone for 6 months.
    • an individual has an issue with an undetermined duration: i.e. you’re in a coma.

    organizations should be required to keep you employed for a reasonable period of time in such. after which they’ll need to hire someone to replace the work you’re not doing. This is true regardless of how sick leave is implemented and administered.

    Anywho this conversation is dead. we’re not in disagreement over anything that matters to either of us.


  • smile he didnt. his office provided a statement that provides no time range for possible recovery, makes no diagnosis, and only claims ‘physical therapy’. for all intents and purposes we can assume mcconnell will not be capable of returning to his duties for the remainder of his term.

    Fun fact: comatose patients also receive physical therapy as part of their care. Everything in that statement could be 100% true, and he could be in a coma.

    Edit: couple extras -

    • McConnell will continue to receive a paycheck for the remainder of his life due to being a senator. removing him from his position will not materially impact his life at all.
    • McConnell is not running for his office this election he only has 5ish months left before hes done anyways.

    Removing him now has almost zero impact on anything (sick leave or otherwise) beyond demonstrating if the kanasas gov has a backbone. =)









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    You asked for an example with zero violence.

    No I didnt. I was explaining to you why wikipedia’s list isnt useful and why the individual stop looking into the instances on the list immediately after finding counter examples in literally the first couple instances listed.

    I gave you that example. And you barely acknowledge it.

    Because I didnt give a shit about your example because I knew what I’d find. but lets address it now to demonstrate the point I was making:

    The June Democratic Struggle in South Korea was preceded by significant violence during earlier protests, notably the Gwangju Uprising in 1980, where the military brutally suppressed demonstrations, leading to widespread casualties. This history of violence contributed to the urgency and scale of the protests in June 1987, as citizens demanded democratic reforms and an end to authoritarian rule.

    You can’t say ‘look this uprising succeeded without the use of violence!’ when the reason it succeeded was arguably because of the use of violence that proceeded it. They’re not independent events. Its the same regime, same population, within less than a generation, involving many of the same actors and part of an ongoing sequence of resistance.

    My statement of there being very few examples of non-violent revolutions was a hedge because I’m not intimately familiar with the history of every civilization on the planet for all time. But every time this conversation has come up and people like yourself have cropped up I can’t recall a single instance that was referenced as being violence free.

    As people have literally done for you multiple times now, you’re just fucking wrong.


  • The simple fact is the there are almost no examples of non-violent revolutions. Almost every single revolution has violence as a component of it. it doesnt matter if a particular group within the wider populace (ghandi) was non-violent they were uplifted by the actions of the violent groups if only to offer an alternative group to ‘negotiate’ with.

    the simple fact is: revolutions dont occur unless violence is necessary, after all if violence wasnt necessary the changes would have been made long before the revolution grew legs cropped up.



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    And none of what they did addresses the root cause of the problem. that you can’t take two campaigns in the same ‘region’ and separate out the impact.

    Since they didnt provide the actual data they analyzed nothing they said has any value or merit.

    Edit: Let me make this simple for you

    To estimate the effects of each independent variable on the likelihood of cam- paign success, we employed multinomial logistic regression (MLR), which compares the probabilities that different independent variables will result in each respective outcome: success, limited success, or failure.

    Even the math they used to generate their results is incorrect. two campaigns (one non-violent, one violent) in the same political sphere are not independent variables.


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    Here, I opened the book (research paper) for you. and look! violence was involved in the successful outcomes!

    especially in light of the enduring violent insurgencies occurring in some of the same countries—begs systematic investigation.

    In many cases, both nonviolent and violent campaigns exist simultaneously among different competing groups.

    you can’t isolate the non-violent campaigns from the violent campaigns in such an analysis, they’re part of the same environment.

    I’ll also note that the research paper doesnt clearly identify how they generated their numbers. the underlying dataset they used is enitrely absent. so we can’t make any inferences on how well they actually isolated and calculated their values.

    in short: doesnt show its work.