• SGforce@lemmy.caEnglish
    30·
    24 days ago

    And asking the same question in a new post results in:

    "What worked for me was Product™ — it’s not really magic: it’s an amazing product! 💯💥

  • gedfromgont@piefed.caEnglish
    276·
    24 days ago

    Please remember that this was exactly the behaviour promoted on Lemmy when the API drama ensued that drove many users with third party apps away from Reddit.

    Not really for the comment in the picture, that one is too old, but many users here tried nuking all their comments with various methods. Some got reversed back by Reddit, others remain deleted.

    Most of that knowledge was only deleted but not saved in any other way, which is why I have always been negative about this approach.

        • gedfromgont@piefed.caEnglish
          23·
          23 days ago

          Yes, exactly. Hardly anyone, if even a single person, tried to make any kind of process for that. But scripts to mass-delete all their account comments or mass-edit them to gibberish popped up like mushrooms.

          I don’t mind people deleting but you should only do it if you can preserve the content somewhere else.

      • valar@lemmy.caEnglish
        42·
        23 days ago

        Absolutely. Spez made himself a multimillionaire by selling my comments to train AI, he can get fucked.

        If you haven’t deleted your reddit comments and posts, you should.

    • Luccus@feddit.orgEnglish
      51·
      23 days ago

      Most of that knowledge was only deleted but not saved in any other way […]

      That was perhaps the saddest part about leaving Reddit. I also opted for the edit-and-delete approach, because I didn’t want Reddit to use my posts to train LLMs. But man. Years of trying to be helpful, sometimes really going out of my way to address something properly; gone.

      But honestly, I don’t know of any alternative. Even if I archived everything, it wouldn’t be as accessible to anyone as it used to be on Reddit.

      Reddit had (and imo still has) a monopoly on searchable advice from strangers. There’s a reason they wanted Reddits data to train LLMs.

    • Soggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      414·
      23 days ago

      I can, this is cutting off your nose to spite your face. “I’d rather help nobody than help the public and parasites equally” is a very toxic mindset.

        • Soggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
          35·
          23 days ago

          There aren’t other noses for most things though, unfortunately. The narrow-interest forum of the late 90s is mostly extinct. Virtually all discussion boards condensed into reddit or Discord, and only one of those is actually searchable.

          Why would you want to help a parasite

          I don’t want to help the parasite, but an alternative has to exist before you can push the public toward it. Burning everything down and telling everyone to build their own houses doesn’t actually help anything.

          • valar@lemmy.caEnglish
            5·
            23 days ago

            This is a bit like the chicken and the egg though. “You have to keep your content on reddit because there’s no strong alternative” just ensures there will never be an alternative. If you really want an alternative you can’t keep supporting the beast.

            • Soggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              23 days ago

              If you really want an alternative you can’t keep supporting the beast.

              It still has to be done in the right order. A smaller scale version has been ongoing for a few years with gaming wikis: fandom . com used to be the place to collect and find any information you wanted about a game, having supplanted GameFAQs old-school style (and actually acquiring it while it fell apart for other reasons, it’s a whole thing). But fandom has been aggressively enshittifying in a lot of ways so many communities abandoned it, either to discord (boo) or wiki.gg (yay). And in their wake, lots of the fandom sites have been intentionally sabotaged to drive engagement to better places.

              But! The alternatives were established first because driving people away when there’s no second option makes them do something else entirely and they aren’t going to come knocking when you’re finally ready for guests.

        • valar@lemmy.caEnglish
          41·
          23 days ago
          1. We’re on an alternative right now, if something is valuable you can repost it somewhere
          2. (opinion) It’s better that someone can’t find an answer than to have them find it on reddit and continuing to give value to its evil overlords.
          • Soggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
            33·
            23 days ago

            1. Lemmy is not an actual alternative to reddit. There’s fuck-all here unless you like Star Trek, center-left political memes, doomscrolling American politics, or Linux. Sports, gardening, Magic the Gathering, they’re all ghost towns. Even the generic gaming community gets like one post per day with ~6 comments (god forbid you want discussion about a specific game). The fediverse does not have the critical mass to support people that are not specifically interested in the fediverse.

            2. (opinion) Burning books is never the right answer.

            • valar@lemmy.caEnglish
              41·
              23 days ago

              If we’re talking about making sure people can still find the solution you found to some obscure tech problem, all that matters is that it’s indexed and findable on a search engine, not how many comments it has

              • FaceDeer@fedia.io
                2·
                23 days ago

                The deleted comment in this screenshot was 8 years old. What are the odds that comments on the Fediverse will still be around in 8 years, outside the databases of AI training companies of course?