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JonsJava@lemmy.worldM to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

As electric bills rise, evidence mounts that data centers share blame. States feel pressure to act

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As electric bills rise, evidence mounts that data centers share blame. States feel pressure to act

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Amid rising electric bills, states are under pressure to insulate regular household and business ratepayers from the costs of feeding Big Tech’s energy-hungry data centers.
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    These data centers can either start paying for everyone’s electricity or start making their own somehow. I’m not here to pay for their shit

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      The Grok data center in Memphis does make its own power, thru gas turbines, and it’s causing health issues for nearby residents. From what I’ve heard cities and states are more than happy to power these data centers with the burning bodies of their own constituents.

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        What does that have to do with my statement.?

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          They are making their own, and it’s worse than the alternative?

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            Look at their comment history, they are quick to anger, full of themselves, and lack reading comprehension skills. Engage at your own risk, might be a troll, definitely needs to mature.

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            That’s not what I said. Is it?

            I am not here to pay for their electricy.

            That’s what I said.

            You’re comment doesn’t change that. Means their way of obtaining electricity is shitty and should be changed, but it doesn’t change the fact that I’m not responsible for a corps ekectric needs.

            Like at all.

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              Might want to cool down. They were basically agreeing with you.

              You made it into a fight.

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                Yeah, thedruid leans pretty hard and pretty often into the Colin Robinson energy vampire vibe

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                I’m not doing anything except explaining all I said is i am not here pay for corps electricity.

                That’s all I keep saying

                How am i causing the issue with that?

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              I totally agree with you. And at least me and one other person understood the same thing about your earlier comment. So if you didn’t mean they should generate their own power (and not use everyone else’s) you might want to rephrase it.

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                What in saying. And have repeated , is that I not responsible for paying for the corps electric

                Word choice could been better, but i don’t think my viewpoint is unreasonable

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          Try reading both statements out loud and looking for similarities.

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      These data centers can either start paying for everyone’s electricity or start making their own somehow.

      Be careful what you wish for

      https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5120581/three-mile-island-nuclear-power-plant-microsoft-ai

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        Honestly, if this is what it takes to bring nuclear power back into usage, I’m kinda ok with it. Per kWh, nuclear is one of the least dangerous generation methods [and by far the safest base load generation method] and puts out less radiation into the environment than things like coal. Even the ‘disaster’ at 3 Mile Island, the worst in US history, wasn’t that damaging or deadly to anything more than the PR for the nuclear industry. Plus, technology has come a long way in 46 years, so it’s going to be safer than it was previously.

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          I agree with all your points, except the last bit, because corporations in this country have not shown any enthusiasm for embracing or improving any technology that does not directly increase profit. Particularly these AI companies. I am confident they will cut every corner they possibly can and things will end up being less safe than they were before.

          Yes, the energy companies are running the plants, but if they have a single customer for the plant they will bend over backwards to meet their deadlines.

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          And where do you think is the nuclear fuel supply coming from? For the existing reactors but even more so for the newly planned plants? The answer is Rosatom. So why should it be a good idea to become more dependent on a cleptocratic regime that’s threatening and openly attacking democracies?

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            And where do you think is the nuclear fuel supply coming from? For the existing reactors but even more so for the newly planned plants?

            Probably from Canada, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan or Australia, which accounts for close to 3/4 of current sources. Or possibly one of the other 6 countries that make up the rest of the non-russian uranium, since Russia only accounts for 12% of foreign sourced uranium as of 2022.

            Try googling basic facts before spreading easily debunkable FUD.

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              Yes sure, I can also buy Russian uranium by middlemen located in other countries. There’s a lot of investigative pieces out there that dig deeper than your “basic facts”. The origin of most of the uranium is Russia. It’s a trap. And the US is currently planning ~200 new reactors. No country will be able to supply the amounts of fuel required except Russia. It’s no wonder that the Trump administration is desperately searching for normalization in the relationship with Russia to strike deals. And I’m not even starting to talk about the downsides of nuclear reactors (inflexibility) in a modern power system that needs to incorporate renewables.

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        Meh. They won’t.

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    As more Jews die, evidence mounts that Nazis share blame.

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    https://web.archive.org/web/20250809152453/https://apnews.com/article/electricity-prices-data-centers-artificial-intelligence-fbf213a915fb574a4f3e5baaa7041c3a

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