I haven’t seen anyone blame their stupid position because of their secret homosexuality. I have however seen people call out their hypocrisy in being gay while being a part of the anti-gay party.
Theory for what, why they’re shitty people? Do I need to explain to you that straight people can be shitty?
E: Jesus Christ, do you mean the testosterone thing?? Are you going to sit here and tell me you think every straight man with testosterone anxieties is secretly gay?
yeah like, what is the underlying idea? because there has to be a reason the man just told the entire world he thinks the military isn’t manly enough. from a neutral perspective it’s just an incredible own goal, so there has to be some rationale other than he wants soldiers to be bald and hairy.
Right wing straight men have a lot of anxiety over sperm count and testosterone levels dropping since the 60s, and their solution is a bandaid (more testosterone) instead of looking at the cause (likely pollution and worse physical health). These values are based in heterosexist beliefs about testosterone and masculinity.
I will say that I don’t understand their repeated assertions that sexuality is a choice. I don’t see how anyone could believe that unless they’re actively repressing something.
But I don’t know where that disconnect lies. Is it just a bad faith argument, and they don’t really believe that? Do we have a fundamentally different understanding of what sexuality and sexual orientation consist of?
Yea, straight cis guy here. I once got kissed by a dude after I actively flirted with him for like 3 hours at a party once. Honestly, 10/10 best kiss of my life, objectively, but that’s how I learned I was definitely straight. Sexuality very much isn’t a choice.
I know it’s trite to point out republican hypocrisy but anyone else notice how they insist women must be modest because men can’t control themselves while also believing sexuality is a choice?
Could be a combination of factors.
Sexual education is basically nonexistent. One could confuse arousal with sexuality. One could also misconstrue a biological response such as a random erection in inappropriate settings as a sign of sexual orientation. Combined with religious and social pressure, eschewed beliefs can emerge and result in oppressive reactions.
Wrong conclusions, fear and stubbornness - a dangerous cocktail to be sure…
To be fair, you cant logically explain a position that someone came to have for baseless illogical reasons. They dont have to have a logical repression based reason for believing being gay is a choice if they believe being gay is a choice due to illogical sky daddy issues
I haven’t seen anyone blame their stupid position because of their secret homosexuality. I have however seen people call out their hypocrisy in being gay while being a part of the anti-gay party.
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Feel free to peruse the comments here that go on about how they just want men with high T because they find them so sexy.
I didn’t find any comment that blamed their sectret homosexuality. I think you’re just reading into jokes too much.
any alternative theory?
Theory for what, why they’re shitty people? Do I need to explain to you that straight people can be shitty?
E: Jesus Christ, do you mean the testosterone thing?? Are you going to sit here and tell me you think every straight man with testosterone anxieties is secretly gay?
yeah like, what is the underlying idea? because there has to be a reason the man just told the entire world he thinks the military isn’t manly enough. from a neutral perspective it’s just an incredible own goal, so there has to be some rationale other than he wants soldiers to be bald and hairy.
Right wing straight men have a lot of anxiety over sperm count and testosterone levels dropping since the 60s, and their solution is a bandaid (more testosterone) instead of looking at the cause (likely pollution and worse physical health). These values are based in heterosexist beliefs about testosterone and masculinity.
right, that’s the obvious reason, but announcing it directly was obviously going to be a pr disaster. so what made it worth doing?
I will say that I don’t understand their repeated assertions that sexuality is a choice. I don’t see how anyone could believe that unless they’re actively repressing something.
But I don’t know where that disconnect lies. Is it just a bad faith argument, and they don’t really believe that? Do we have a fundamentally different understanding of what sexuality and sexual orientation consist of?
Edit: spelling
Yea, straight cis guy here. I once got kissed by a dude after I actively flirted with him for like 3 hours at a party once. Honestly, 10/10 best kiss of my life, objectively, but that’s how I learned I was definitely straight. Sexuality very much isn’t a choice.
I know it’s trite to point out republican hypocrisy but anyone else notice how they insist women must be modest because men can’t control themselves while also believing sexuality is a choice?
Well, is it an impulse or a choice then??
Could be a combination of factors. Sexual education is basically nonexistent. One could confuse arousal with sexuality. One could also misconstrue a biological response such as a random erection in inappropriate settings as a sign of sexual orientation. Combined with religious and social pressure, eschewed beliefs can emerge and result in oppressive reactions.
Wrong conclusions, fear and stubbornness - a dangerous cocktail to be sure…
To be fair, you cant logically explain a position that someone came to have for baseless illogical reasons. They dont have to have a logical repression based reason for believing being gay is a choice if they believe being gay is a choice due to illogical sky daddy issues