Some recent threads have pulled lemmy.ca into the drama around lemmy.world and Luminous5481. We banned them a few days before LW did, and claims have been made that we’re aligned with LW in the pro-zionist behavior LW has been accused of.

~8 days ago Luminous had “murder all Zionists” in their name, during which time they banned recursive_recursion@piefed.ca from the community agitprop memes. The reason given was “zionism, genocide apologia” with a 74 year expiry time. Recursive saw this, was confused and insulted by the insinuation / threat, and retaliatory banned Luminous. This happened 2 days before the LW issue began, and from our point of view was unrelated.

Recursive posted in our internal chat immediately after they placed the ban, letting us all know. We all agreed that being flippant about who Luminous labels a zionist while also repeatedly calling for the murder of zionists, wasn’t appropriate for lemmy.ca. It violates our of our “Be Civil” rule, and is toxic behaviour that doesn’t belong here.

None of us knew at the time why Recursive had been banned, although yesterday while digging I found this thread. Luminous placed the ban because Recursive had banned Deceptichum@quokk.au with a “suspiciously similar ban message” to one MrKaplan used. Recursive used “Troll and perpetual history of bad faith behavior” vs MrKaplan removing a comment as “troll”. That’s a pretty shitty reason to label someone a zionist genocide apologist, while you’re calling for the murder of all zionists.

None of us support Israel, we’re all horrified by what they’re doing. That doesn’t mean throwing around death threats on Lemmy should be tolerated.

Context if you’re unfamiliar with this issue:

  • Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    I am frustrated to have communities I run removed by the Lemmy.ca team and still no reason given.

    Like I said a few days ago, it very much feels like you are in cahoots with Lemmy.world

    • Shadow@lemmy.caOPM
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      3 months ago

      Removing all the communities wasn’t intentional, we’ve restored https://lemmy.ca/c/world@quokk.au so far and will go through the rest.

      Edit: I’ve restored all of these -

             id    |       name       |                actor_id
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            1547851 | anarchymemes     | https://anarchist.nexus/c/anarchymemes
            1483002 | 90s_memes        | https://quokk.au/c/90s_memes
            1505780 | acab             | https://quokk.au/c/acab
            1352665 | ausmusic         | https://quokk.au/c/ausmusic
            1546155 | auspol           | https://quokk.au/c/auspol
            1546127 | australia        | https://quokk.au/c/australia
            1586724 | clips            | https://quokk.au/c/clips
            1332922 | emo              | https://quokk.au/c/emo
            1402823 | greeneggsandspam | https://quokk.au/c/greeneggsandspam
            1620458 | historygallery   | https://quokk.au/c/historygallery
            1620049 | historymusic     | https://quokk.au/c/historymusic
            1677786 | mop              | https://quokk.au/c/mop
            1555028 | musicvideos      | https://quokk.au/c/musicvideos
            1567365 | peoplemastodon   | https://quokk.au/c/peoplemastodon
            1463985 | philosophymemes  | https://quokk.au/c/philosophymemes
            1076676 | shitprop         | https://quokk.au/c/shitprop
            1421739 | sigh_fi          | https://quokk.au/c/sigh_fi
             975270 | SighFi           | https://quokk.au/c/SighFi
            1560152 | usa              | https://quokk.au/c/usa
            1407065 | videos           | https://quokk.au/c/videos
            1330813 | weird            | https://quokk.au/c/weird
            1485860 | y2k_memes        | https://quokk.au/c/y2k_memes
      
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      3 months ago

      Oh man …

      If only there was other instances where you could host communities…

      it very much feels like you are in cahoots with Lemmy.world

      The big communities act the same, because that’s what most fedivwrse users wanted.

      If most people wanted db0, .ml, or any other flavor of instance, then those would be the most popular.

      You think the popular ones are coordinating, when it’s just they’re all popular for the same reason in the first place.

      If the shit you want was what most people wanted, most people would be on instance like yours.