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Sunday, October 30, 2011
Noel Gallagher comes with ringdings
I know we're not meant to really take Noel Gallagher's forgeyish disdain for modern life seriously, but even so...:
He said: “I just want a basic 1994 Nokia mobile. I can keep it in my back pocket and just do the basics with it – phone and text. What would I need a camera on it for? iPhones are for Cockneys and ****s. And they are far too big.”How dull must Gallagher's life be if he can't think of any reason he might want to have a pretty good camera in his pocket?
But still, let's take him at his word. He doesn't want an iPhone because they're too big, and all he needs is a 1994 Nokia.
In 1994, Nokia announced the 2110 (it actually started shipping the following year). It weighed 236 grammes, and was 148 x 56 x 25 mm.
The iPhone4s weighs 140 grammes, and is 115 x 59 x 9 mm.
But, hey, if Noel would rather have a phone that does less, and is taller and thicker, and heavier, because it's somehow smaller, that's his choice.
Monday, May 16, 2011
Don't tell me it's Ovi
Ovi, Nokia's sub-brand which they slapped on to Comes With Music just before they killed that off, is, in its turn, being axed:
The changeover was announced on Nokia's Ovi blog by editor Pino Bonetti.The main motivation for the tidying-up, they say, is to make it easier when Nokia rolls out its exciting Windows 7 phones - you can do spreadsheets on them, you know - with all the access to Microsoft's store. Or so they say.
He wrote: "The main reason for this change is so we can leverage the high-value of the Nokia master brand to better support future plans to deliver disruptive and compelling mobile experiences globally."
Really, it's because it's a brand that never captured the imagination. Ovi and out.
Tuesday, January 18, 2011
Comes With Music goes with a whimper
One of the most bullish proposed iTunes killers of the last couple of years, Nokia's Comes With Music, has been axed.
Surprisingly, the obtuse rebranding of the all-you-can-eat-up-to-a-limit service as Ovi Music didn't mark a sudden flourishing of take-up, and while China and a few other Eastern nations will keep the service, in most countries it's being switched off. All that's left is for Nokia to try and pretend that it's dumping Comes because, you know, they're just way too busy with something else, that's better, but you can't see what it is, because it's a secret, right, and you wouldn't understand:
"We are currently working with our partners to deliver new, innovative music services as part of the Ovi experience during 2011," said a spokesman for Nokia. "As we focus on delivering these ... we plan to cease producing Ovi Music Unlimited-edition devices at the end of the year."Yeah, that's it. New, innovative things that aren't actually ready to announce yet, but they're going to smother this other thing now anyway. Yes.
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Friday, August 20, 2010
Comes With Music now comes without Nokia brand
Comes With Music - you remember, it killed iTunes a couple of years back - is no longer going to be branded with Nokia. They're lobbing it under the Ovi brand, instead.
The Register rightly snorts at the move here:
A spokesperson explained the move:Nokia had previously had some fun branding a service that only allowed you to download a certain, unknown amount of music as "unlimited" on the basis that it was unlimited, until you hit the limit.
"The new name is also simpler for music fans around the world to understand, and when presented in local language, will better communicate our truly local service proposition in each market. In doing so, we are giving our users a simplified, Ovi-branded experience."
Quite right.
People often ask, "What's a Nokia? - is it some new kind of yoga or a fashionable new diet?" Then you remind them - it's the platform for the Ovi mobile services experience - and the fog of confusion quickly clears.
Friday, September 25, 2009
Comes With Music comes with longer contracts
The slowly sinking Comes With Music Service has waved a distress flag in the UK, offering its few customers a free contract extension as it suddenly realises it has no idea how to handle renewals. Reuters explains:
Nokia had said previously that consumers could extend their 12 month music packages on a monthly-basis through mobile operators. But the first subscribers in Britain were prepaid clients to the 12 month music package, and were not linked to particular operators.
Analysts said Nokia's latest move also reflects the company's uncertainty about how to renew subscriptions for customers who do not have an operator package and who do not want to buy a new phone with the service.
There's added uncertainty, as it's not clear where the money for the tracks downloaded by subscribers will come from. Clearly, Nokia isn't afraid of losing its shirt on this deal - so there can't be much expectation of anyone actually using CWM that much. And now they've got three months to try and work out how to make the system work.
Wednesday, September 02, 2009
Comes With Music comes with a long delay in the US
Nokia doesn't seem to be rushing to bring Comes With Music to the US: it's putting back a planned launch to 2010.
Forbes is suggesting that Nokia has been underwhelmed by take-up of the service in established markets; network operators don't seem to be that keen on offering CWM, either.
Wednesday, May 13, 2009
Comes With Music expands a little
The initial take-up of Comes With Music - Nokia's music-subscription-with-a-phone - hasn't been entirely stellar, with suggestions that only 23,000 people have signed up so far. Although those that have it are very keen on the service.
Now, Nokia have done a deal with Orange to bring a CWM handset to another network:
Orange will be the only UK network to offer the service, marketing it through five plans ranging from £25 a month for 200 minutes, 300 texts and unlimited music to £45 a month for 1200 minutes, 500 texts and unlimited music.
The sting? If you want to have the music directly on your phone, you'll still have to pay for the data transfer. Which makes free music quite expensive.
Saturday, January 17, 2009
MIDEM 2009: Comes With Music, but that's easily dealt with
The pre-Midem MidemNet digital music conference is underway down in the South Of France, where somehow these companies who have to fight for every cent have managed to send their executives and sub-executives to find out stuff they could get for free on the internet.
Musically has been liveblogging an interview with Dr Tero Ojanpera, the EVP of "entertainment and communities" with Nokia. He has, obviously, been talking mostly about Comes With Music, giving an interesting little nugget about the "fair use" limit, and how it's not just us who is curious to see exactly where that limit might lie:
“We are seeing some people downloading hundreds of tracks a month initially, but when the base expands this will be even more like a bell curve. There were some bloggers who went and downloaded a lot, but once they noticed Nokia was not doing anything, they gave up! We are not really seeing anybody who is abusing the service. It’s validating all the research that was done before - this is how people will use it - some will use a lot, some will use a little, and it will average out.”
You'll notice he doesn't say that Nokia believed that the exploratory downloaders failed to breach a limit of fair use, just that Nokia chose to not do anything. Sadly, nobody seems to have bothered asking Ojanpera why the company won't just come out and say what it considers to be fair use of its service, and why it childishly keeps the figure secret.
Why doesn't it trust its customers with the actual rules for a service that they're paying for? It just seems to be cussed secrecy for the sake of it.
Also interesting is that some people are buying Comes With Music handsets, and not bothering with the music:
“What we are seeing three months in in the UK is that the consumption pattern is like a bell curve. There are certain users that don’t activate, and then a really nice bell curve where we are seeing good downloads in the middle and…”
[Moderator Bill] Werde [of Billboard] interjects - why are some people not activating? Ojanpera says some simply missed the offer. Bizarre.
I'll agree with Music Ally's "bizarre" response - given that the marketing is garishly insistent about Comes With Music, the suggestion that people might not realise that their Comes With Music phone comes with music seems a little odd. Surely the other possibility - that you can offer people unlimited music for no extra money, and they can't even be arsed to explore the offering - is far more fascinating. And worrying, for the music industry. And psychologically fascinating.
And are people buying in to the service in large numbers?
So, the UK then. The price point of the 5310 has lowered, and reports suggest sales aren’t good. Why? “I don’t want to put you on the spot” says Werde. Why not?!
Anyway, Ojanpera’s response, pointing out that Nokia has been expanding the device base for CWM in the UK. “Our target is not any more about ‘this is a few specific devices’, but going forward we will have this in all price points, and make this a mass-market phenomenon.”
Surely, if you can have Comes With Music in the cheapo end of the market, that must mean the money that's flowing to the labels, and then on to the artists, must be piffling beyond belief?
And what about the simplicity of the offering?
Is the offer simple enough, asks Werde? “One thing is of course, this comes back to the marketing, and that needs to be fine-tuned all the time. The actual product is so simple - one year of music, unlimited downloads in your phone and your PC. That’s simple enough, and a great offer.”
Of course, the offering isn't simple at all, when you look at it - and get down to fine details of owning the tracks forever, but requiring a DRM key, which you can only change once past the subscribing period. It's not that this is a totally unfair rule from Nokia's point of view - if you run DRM servers, you're not going to want to commit to long periods of fiddling for people who aren't paying you any more - but it complicates the offering more than it should. Interesting, then, that Nokia don't seem all that bothered about trying to crawl out from under the DRM tarpaulin.
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Monday, December 15, 2008
Now Nokia's ComesWithDRM can be set free
Introducing Tunebite, a piece of software that removes the DRM from ComesWithMusic, which means that the service will now actually do what the adverts claim, and let you keep any tracks you download forever.
It's not a hack: apparently, it just plays the songs really, really quickly and re-records them to a clean file that doesn't have the DRM which locks "your" music to "one PC, one phone" once you stop giving money to the company - and, of course, can do the same thing for other company's music files.
Interestingly, it claims it's legal. The RIAA may take another view.
Thursday, November 13, 2008
A closer look at Comes With Music
So, there's been some to-and-fro over the claims made for Nokia's Comes With Music: the initial claim that you could download "as much music" - "unlimited", even - and keep it forever seemed to good to be true. Was it?
The Nokia Comes With Music website insists it's not. In answer to rhetorical question "how much music can I download" it's unequivocal:
Well, my apologies, Nokia - I thought you were going to put a limit on... hang about a moment... on the Carphone Warehouse site, they're also offering Comes With Music phones, with Unlimited downloads - only theirs has a tiny asterisk next to it. Because terms and conditions apply:
*subject to personal non-commercial and reasonable use. Failure to comply with the terms and conditions may result in termination of the service.
That there is a limit isn't a problem. It's fair enough, Nokia aren't a charity and you wouldn't expect them to allow you to take everything in one scoop. The problem is, though, there's no indication what Nokia might consider a "reasonable" level of downloading to be: 120 songs? 1000? half a million?
Your licence to download Comes With Music Content is limited to your personal non-commercial and reasonable use. If our analysis of your use of the Service suggests abusive or excessive downloading, Nokia may contact you and ask you to moderate your usage. If you fail to comply with such a request, Nokia reserves the right to restrict or terminate your use of the Service.
Blimey - it's not just the possibility that Nokia might conclude you're downloading too many tracks, it could just think you're being abusive. But if you buy a phone on an advertising promise that you can download as much as you like, how can it be abusive if that much turns out to be more than Nokia would like?
Regardless of where the limit sits, it's simply a lie to say that a service is unlimited when it is actually limited, however reasonable that limit might be. And without making it clear in advance what that level of cut-off might be, how on earth are you supposed to make a judgement call about the value of the service?
Still, at least once you download those songs, they're yours to keep forever, right?
The Nokia website is encouraging:
What happens to my music when the Comes With Music Service expires?
You can keep all the tracks you have downloaded and listen to them...
That sounds promising...
... on your registered PC
Ah, and there would be the sting. Once again, though, we have to go to the Carphone Warehouse to have the limitations explained in a bit more detail:
Registration of Authorised Devices. You may register one personal computer ("PC") and one Comes With Music Device concurrently to the Service.
Yes, just one computer. And the only mobile device you can use is your phone. So if you'd like to, say, listen to the music you've supposedly paid for in your car, you better make sure that you're able to hook your phone up to your stereo. Use a waterproof player for when you're on the beach or swimming? Tough. Got a PC in the living room and the bedroom? Or a PC and a laptop? Sorry.
The unlimited download starts to look more limited in the other sense of the word, too.
But can you move your stuff from computer to computer?
In the event you purchase a new compatible Nokia mobile device or a compatible PC or in the event of technical failure of your registered Comes With Music Device or PC you may restore the Comes With Music Content you have downloaded and/or change your registered Authorised Devices according to the following rules:
a) Restoration of Comes With Music Content
PC: During the Service Period and for a period of two years after the end of the Service Period ("Restoration Period") you may change the registered PC once every three months and re-download the content files and/or the digital keys needed to play the Comes With Music Content you had previously downloaded and/or transfer the Comes With Music Content you had previously downloaded to your new registered PC from your Comes With Music Device.
Comes With Music Device: If you upgrade your Comes With Music Device to another compatible Nokia device during the Restoration Period, you may change the registered Comes With Music Device once every three months which will allow you to transfer the Comes With Music Content you have downloaded from your PC to the new registered device and/or re-download the content files and/or the digital keys needed to play the Comes With Music Content you had previously downloaded. Please note that you are not able to change your registered Comes With Music Device during the Service Period.
Please note that during the Restoration Period you are able to change either the registered PC or Comes With Music Device once every three months, but not both of them during that period of time. Once you have changed your registered PC or Comes With Music Device, your rights to use the Comes With Music Content on the previous PC and Comes With Music Device shall expire and continued access to suchcontent on the previous PC or Comes With Music Device does not form part of the Service and may no longer be possible.
So, then, the tracks are yours to keep - but not to do as you choose with; and only for the two years after you leave the service, not forever. Oh, and only if you don't change your PC or phone more than every three months. And if you do change your phone, you're not even able to change your PC. And after two years is up? You can't even shift at all then.
So, Nokia Comes With Music does, indeed, come with some music - and, effectively, it takes its music away with it when the handset fails. It's impossible to say if it's a good deal or not financially, as there's no indication of just what you're getting. It is clear, though, that CWM doesn't offer any way of building a digital music collection. It's probably a nice add on if you're getting that phone anyway, but it's no way to buy music.
Saturday, October 18, 2008
Comes with confusion: Nokia claim there's no 120 song limit
The story of Nokia's Comes With Music deal gets even more tortuous: The Times Mousestrap blog asked Nokia if it was true there was a cap of 120 tracks on users. Unlike back in September when The Guardian asked, and Nokia gave a vague response, Nokia are now denying there's any limit at all:
Once you have bought a Nokia Comes With Music device, there is no per-track cost for these unlimited downloads. There have been some media reports that there is a maximum of 120 tracks but this is not correct.
You'll note the careful wording of there being "no per-track cost", which isn't quite the same thing as "free". Still, there's no limit on downloads, then?
Right?
Your licence to download Comes With Music Content is limited to your personal, non-commercial and reasonable use. If our analysis of your use of the service suggests abusive or excessive downloading, Nokia may contact you and ask you to moderate your usage. If you fail to comply with such a request, Nokia reserves the right to restrict or terminate your use of the service.
So the general guidance we give is that you can download as much music as you want as long as you use the service for your own personal, non-commercial use.
So there is a limit, you just don't know what it is in advance - and it's what Nokia deem to be "reasonable". Perhaps Nokia might like to share what their concept of "reasonable" is with their customers before asking them to buy a service. It would seem to be hard to decide if a deal is a good one if you don't know how many tracks you're being allowed to buy. And it's not entirely straight to suggest a service is unlimited when, erm, there actually is a limit on usage - however generous and understandable that might be.
Thursday, October 16, 2008
Comes With Music doesn't, actually, come with music
There's been much excitement over Nokia's Comes With Music phone, pegging it as a simultaneous iPhone and iTunes killer. And you can see where the thrill lies - you buy a phone, and you get access to Nokia's fabulous music library, forever, for free.
Only now that a deal has been struck with a carrier - 3, in the UK - it turns out to not be quite so sweet a deal after all. Andrew Orlowski runs through the small print:
Comes With Music reportedly bundles "free and unlimited" music downloads with selected Nokia handsets. But actually, it doesn't. Downloads are limited to 120 per year*, and there's an upfront charge of £129.95 at Carphone Warehouse. So it more accurately resembles the Britannia CD club model: pay up front and get some albums.
Sharp-eyed readers will notice the weasel words in Nokia's press release:
"Comes With Music offers one year of unlimited access to the entire Nokia Music Store catalogue…"
But access to the Store is not the same as unlimited downloads, of course. Asked about this, Nokia's EVP of entertainment Tero Ojanpera repeated that unlimited meant unlimited access, not downloads.
So, that would be Comes Without Music But You Can Pay For Music If You Like. Just Not Too Many Tunes, Eh? Don't Go Mad Or Anything. Two Songs A Week.
Oh, and if we've done the maths correctly, at £129 for 120 songs, that's not only not free, but more expensive than average downloads.
[UPDATE: Nokia's PR team have been denying there's a 120 song limit but admit there is a "reasonable" usage clause in the deal.]
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Thursday, October 02, 2008
Download later
Today have just run a piece on the launch of Nokia's 'comes with music' handset, out of which nobody came out with much honour, to be honest.
A representative of MySpace UK showed off the MySpace music service, burbling about how it turns MySpace into your music hub on the web or something similar - before Rory Clellan-Jones pointed out that it's not if you live in the UK.
Some fans of The Script were given a chance to explain their justifications for not paying for music, which they delivered with the tone of people who had read something on the internet rather than like it was something they believe - "oh, yeah, I see music as pretty much a marketing tool these days" (do you really? But what about the vast majority of songs that don't get used as marketing tools? Is it okay to not pay for a Damon and Naomi song simply because a Kula Shaker song appears in an advert for apple sauce?); "I think the days of paying for music are over, I'm afraid" (what about the billions of tracks getting paid for through iTunes? Or the racks of CDs in HMV?).
Then they actually spoke to a member of The Script - I couldn't work out why they'd been playing a cover version of a Keane song under the piece, but it turned out that it was them. Script man claimed that he was cool with downloading because "if someone downloads your song, they'll tell 10,000 other people" - which seems to be wrong; downloading makes it more likely that people will sample a song than they would otherwise, but surely it's the people who care about your music enough to spring a little bit of cash for it are more likely to turn into your ad hoc promotion force than those who are merely downloading it on the off-chance?
Finally, a bloke from Omnifone, the company which powers the Sony-Ericcson version of Comes With Music, trumpeted that the way to get people to pay for music is to arrange things so "they don't know they're paying for it". Isn't taking money from people for something that they don't realise they're paying for at the more fraudulent end of unethical?
The whole piece seemed to have been constructed from people who had a shaky grasp on the subjects they were discussing, or, at best, hadn't really thought through what they were saying.
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Friday, September 26, 2008
Nokia nelly: Wentz Nokia knocking knocked off web
Could it be that Pete Wentz - who happily shoved cars and teenage deodorants into an earlier video - does have a line beyond which he won't cross?
A Fall Out Boy video for new single I Don't Care appeared on the web yesterday, chock-full of loving shots of Nokia phones. Wentz, it appears, was outraged, posting a grumpy blog:
The blog post, in its turn, disappeared.
Does it sound to anyone else as if Wentz had no problem with a deal in the first place, but only objected to the degree to which Nokia had taken control? Isn't that a little like going to orgy and complaining about the numbers?
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Monday, April 28, 2008
Nokia seeks music fans who don't like music
There's a lovely Pearls Before Swine strip where Rat takes revenge on a restaurant who upsets him by attending their All You Can Eat buffet and eating everything on it. The joke being that nobody actually expects someone to turn up for an All You Can Eat service and actually eat everything in sight.
Nokia must be hoping that their customers aren't going to turn out to be like Rat, as it seems they've cut the world's worst deal with Universal and Sony BMG. The handset manufacturer pays a fixed rate to allow its customers to download as much music as they'd like. We've been saying for a few weeks now that sounds like a poor deal for the labels, but what we didn't know was the labels thought so, too. With visions of Rats emptying their libraries, the labels told Nokia it must pay wholesale rates for any downloads beyond a certain number.
That number was ruinously low thirty-five tracks. Yes, if their customers choose to download more than a couple of hefty album's worth of songs, Nokia are going to have to start paying out. And, since it's not costing them anything, chances are their customers will think "I don't really like U2, but I might as well download everything they've ever done." Nokia have left themselves horribly over-exposed. Ed Averdieck, , Managing Director of Nokia Music has been given the chance to seek out new opportunities in the business world while Tommi Mustonen is being forced by his bosses to try and negotiate the company's way out of the mess. That should be easy, Tommi. The RIAA are known for their reasonable behaviour.
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Sunday, April 27, 2008
How much for your catalogue?
Nokia has denied that it's paying $35 a handset to Universal to allow its customers access to their back catalogue:
So, it's going to be paying less, then - and, that it feels the need to deny that figure, we can only conclude that the actual amount is some way shy of $35. Twenty bucks, perhaps? But if Nokia is only pay ten quid for every song in the catalogue, how much will the artists - who, remember, are the people the majors say they care about the most - see from the deal? They'll be no better off than if the tracks were just sucked off the peer-to-peer networks, surely?
Wednesday, April 16, 2008
£17.50
Thirty five dollars. According to PaidContent, that's what Nokia is going to give Universal in return for every one of its customers having unlimited access to the Universal library.
The labels have been keen to shift to this sort of deal for ages - oh, the joy of money upfront - but when you look at that figure, you have to wonder if they've really thought 'all you can eat' through: selling everything for the sort of figure they could get for a couple of albums a few years back. Is that really going to sustain the major's investments in future acts, keep shareholders happy, pay subs to RIAA and their lawyers, and still put money in the management's pocketbooks?
Having spent the best part of a decade pouring cash into trying to stop people from stealing their product, they're now giving it away.
Friday, February 08, 2008
Music as you move
The music industry and the mobile phone industry are quite close, with the big labels believing that mobile is the future, and that it's a future which will be tightly locked down and closed off. Like a lot of people, they seem not to realise that the more mobile devices there are, the greater the demand for interoperability, and that, eventually, what they see as the "mobile sector" will simply be the internet on small screens and not some glorious walled garden where an album is worth fifteen quid.
A good example of why the closed-up mobile world is a dead end can be found in this week's Guardian Technology supplement where the Technophile column attempts to buy a tune from Vodaphone on a mobile handset:
There might be a couple of years where this sort of thing is the norm - but, in the midterm, people who want music on the move will get out their touch-sensitive device and do exactly the same as they'd do on their desktop. Seeing 'mobile' as something separate from the proper internet is like hoping their might be a 'laptop music market' that could be protected from everything else.
Still, there is a small window of opportunity for supernormal profits, and it's being taken: Nokia have attempted to convince the world of their bona fides by creating a high-minded "Advisory Council", with Dave Stewart on board:
Doesn't it make you feel all warm inside to know that the new content business paradigms are going to include "the artists' points of view" in some way? Albeit filtered through Dave Stewart, who used to use the Brits as a platform to talk about pissing himself, if memory serves.
We've actually got a lot of time for Stewart, but it's hard to believe that this is anything other than the sort of advisory group many businesses create to offer a semblance of doing something for the greater good while bit really doing anything much. After all, if they're really wanting to hear "the artist's" viewpoint, why is a Nokia executive vice president part of the team?
Tuesday, December 04, 2007
Nokia picks up Avvenu
Interesting spot of news from the mobile phone world: Avvenu, who makes software which streams iTunes to your mobile, has been picked up by Nokia.
The optimists hope this means that Nokia is about to build phones that work with your PC's music collection; the pessimists speculate that the idea is more about stopping Avvenu from destroying Nokia's label-approved mobile music plans.









