My understanding, using the federation-email analogy, defederation is like yahoo mail and gmail users not being able to send and receive emails from each other. In this case lemmy.world and lemmy.ml can’t see each others users/communities/posts/comments/votes (someone can correct me if I’m mistaken about any part).

[email protected] just made a post about instance defederations. TL:DR of the post is only 3 instances/servers have any significant defederation (>5%). 2 “tankie” instances (lemmygrad.ml [67%] and hexbear.net [64%]) and the porn instance (fedinsfw.app [13%]).

No worries :)

• Not sure we have a Hobbydrama, but it’s also not my interest, so I could have blocked it.
• Cursedcrochet looks fun. We have an active knitting community, but probably not enough activity/users for a specific “cursedcrochet” community at this point. Also have a semi-active leatherwork community, if that’s of interest.
• Wunkus seems great. I think the closest match we may have would be Scrungy Cats, but there could be communities I don’t know about.
• Also, in a different comment someone mentioned the solarpunk communities (basically anything on the slrpnk.net instance), I’m a big fan of those, and think they’re worth checking out.

The threadiverse (roughly the reddit-like part of the fediverse) is pretty small (~43k MAU), so if something doesn’t exist and you want it to, your probably going to have to start and build it yourself.

I was kind of off-put by that initially, but I kind of like it now. It’s kind of like building your own little space and people can come check it out and see what you’ve been building and contribute if they feel like it. I created fedilytics (Fediverse-Analytics) a couple months ago because I was curious how the fediverse was doing. It’s not particularly active with other people (got first non-me post yesterday!), but I mostly built it for myself and enjoy anytime someone stops in to talk in the comments.

If you do decide to make a community in the future, I’d suggest making the post in the community and then cross-posting it, to a larger relevant community, to increase traffic to your post (as many people just stick to their subscribed feed).

If you provide some of your interests/hobbies, we can probably be more helpful.

That being said, I think these are a few active and interesting communities:

• Superb Owl
• Linux Phones
• Gardening

Regarding places to avoid, I don’t think anyplace needs to be avoided, per say. Politics can be problematic, if you go into those posts.

There’s no real algorithm, so you need to curate your own feed. In general, I’d suggest, if you see a community that could interest you, just subscribe. You can always unsubscribe later (if it turns out not to be what you want), but getting a denser “good stuff” home feed is beneficial.

By the same token, I’d suggest blocking communities you have zero interest in (helps filtering, so you come across more content you are interested in when browsing “All”). If you run into a problematic user, report (if they have done something reportable), block, and move on.

If 2 communities are posting the same content and you get tired of seeing double, I’d suggest removing the community from the bigger or flagship instance (ex. Lemmy.ml, Lemmy.world, Piefed.Social).

This would have the effect of distributing the communities across the threadiverse rather than having them bunch up on a few. A problem with bunching can be if an instance goes down, they take their users/communities with them. Most of the medium/large instances in the threadiverse are stable, but it has happened in the past (Lemm.ee).

My understanding is this should be much less of a problem in the future, they are working on making user profiles and communities transferable between instances/servers.

Note: there is an active autism community, if that’s of interest to you.

From a quick look at elevation maps, your options seem to be colors and/or lines. So, not a bundle of options.

As an alternative, maybe a light shading based on elevation? I’m not sure if that would look good or not though…

It does seem like there was a die off, after an introduction/hype peak (introduction: 2022-11, local/previous maximum: 2024-08, new maximum: this month).

I don’t follow the software closely so tough for me to say why they are growing so fast.

I think it might have been partially an activity bug (like piefed). Checking through some writefreely servers, it seems they had negligible activity until June and then they exploded.

But the biggest server (paper.wf) had regular users and user growth. Then user growth exploded in July (~2.5x).

So possibly a combination of factors.

I couldn’t find the usecase/goal/purpose of the software in your github. Might be worth making it more prominent to increase adoption.

Glad you were able to find and fix your bug though :)

I’m not replying to Rimu’s comment, because I don’t want to get into it with him again, but the graph he posted can’t be used as evidence of anything. The data isn’t normalized to activity (posts, comments, voting).

If half the people left after the 1.7 implementation, you’d also see a drop in network activity. Based on our (Rimu and I’s) previous discussion, there was a significant drop in activity (comments and posts) at that time (I don’t have data on votes so can’t confidently state they dropped too during that time, but I would be surprised if they didn’t correlate with the posts and comments.

As one of the other commentors said, pugjesus left, which I think, was unfortunate but understandable. I was considering leaving, but .zip removed the limit and I believe several other instances did as well.

Good to know. I always wondered why it had a significantly different version number than everyone else.

I’m going to keep them in the Piefed category for now. If there becomes a big schism, with enough servers running forks, I may readdress the structure.

I think it’s for the best that Hexbear, Lemmygrad, and NSFW instances get defederated by as many instances as possible (users who want that specific content can sign up to those specific instances for it, while allowing the rest of the Threadiverse to more easily attract new users), but beyond that defederation should be reserved as a tool of last resort to avoid fracturing the Threadiverse further.

Yeah, I think a less culture-shocking introduction would help increase retention. The new W3C migration proposal, that was posted today, might help in reducing the sunk-cost in remaining with a specific instance, in the future.

Gladly; I’ll probably update the graph with a lower MAU threshold and any federation corrections that may be needed, and I’ll crosspost that too when it’s ready.

Looking forward to it :)

Note: looks like your downvote came from someone who posts to hexbear. I imagine they took issue with your want to migrate users/communities out of the ML instances. They weren’t “serial” and only downvoted the one comment, so I don’t think they’re problematic.

Haha. That’s funny, but also made me a bit sad, that that’s kind of where the world is heading (internet IDs).

Hopefully, the world tosses that off before too long and prevents word processor stop and frisk!

I think that’s kind of good, that most instances are below 10% defederation. Potentially shows we don’t have too many inter-threadiverse bubbles.

With lemmynsfw in archive mode, I expect it’ll “die off” within a couple months. It was 180 MAU ~30 days ago, now its at 135 MAU. In the last week it had between 7 and 12 users per day. I think those daily users are probably roughly the same users going back for specific content, rather than new users discovering the server.

By the way, thanks for cross-posting into fedilytics. You’re the first person, besides me, to contribute a post :)

Edit: You now also have the highest votes for a post in the community :)

Haha. Yeah! They need to go back to watching TV and playing videogames. This writing is going to rot their brains! /s

Works now. Thanks :)

It’s interesting stuff. Looks to me like 4 major groupings (>10% defederation) with 3 separating based on mostly on their approach to the 3 ML instances (block hexbear, block all 3, or block none). Then the anti fedi.nsfw group and more minor defederations (one or two instances involved).

Thanks for letting me know. Fixed.

Sounds interesting. I’m also having the same issue opening the file that [email protected] is (fediverse.world cross-post).

I’ll check back later to see the analysis (alternatively, feel free to ping me when it’s back up).

I’m a bit confused.

You can’t access the post because you were banned from Lemmy.world for posting in wholesome Yuri? Or something else?

If you can’t see it because of a ban, you can try opening the post in a unlogged in browser. You wouldn’t be able to comment, but you should be able to see it.

Hmm, that’s weird. Both work for me, but I just added a link via piefed.zip, so you can try that one.

Otherwise, I’d say just search for it in the fediverse.world community, should be easy to find.

My understanding is threadiverse links allow you to go to a post via your own instance, rather than opening a new tab/window/browser.

Some clients can handle threadiverse links, some can’t. Usually I put both in, but didn’t this time.

Glad you were able to find it though.

It seems tesseract’s dev put so some code in their frontend to DDoS dbzero (there’s a post about it in one of the “fediverse” communities).

Your issues may be related to that. What you’re seeing may be “Anubis” or something similar (not really familiar with what the not/scraping defenses look like).

Might be worth pinging an admin to get their thoughts. Hope you’re able to solve the issue.

Edit: post of potential interest:

https://threadiverse.link/quokk.au/c/fediverse/p/1066667/tesseract-dev-injects-malicious-code-into-browser-to-illegally-ddos-the-dbzer0-instance

Edit 2: Alternate (non-treadiverse) link: https://piefed.zip/post/1682538

I think the pants could fit better. They look somewhat baggy, to me, and the waist may be a bit high.

Overall, doesn’t look bad to me though.