i dont get why he is called an incel when he is documented to be sexually active. its harmful to impose all misogyny and misogynistic violence onto people who dont have sex. for most of humanity, it was men with families, wives and children who upheld misogyny. inflating all violent misogynists with incels also makes it seem like people who are sexually active are good, mentally healthy, devoid of bigotry etc.
i think the word incel has morphed to not necessarily a virgin, but rather someone with a deeply unwell view of women and an aggressively performative fragile masculinity
i used to wonder if i had incel tendencies solely because of the sexual activity aspect and it took a while to realize that the word had a teenage-edgelord-like origin that ignored the reality that the biggest proponents of the ideology were coupled men.
To me incel is more of a toxic ideology rather than a relationship status, but I understand your concern and I agree with you that people shouldn’t be grouped with this monster just because they don’t date or have sex.
I think when people use “incel” usually it’s targeted towards a certain type of misogynist cis man who feels they are entitled to sex/affection and blame women as a whole for denying it.
I don’t date at all myself so I’m certainly not judging anyone by whether or not they do, though I also didn’t make this meme so I can’t 100% say the original intent.
incels kick people out of the incel forums if they get laid even if they've managed to do it without changing the mentality
incel requires both the not getting any and the toxic mindset these days, although the toxicity is a colonization of something that was started by a woman. and that toxicity came in and festered because hegemonic masculinity was already like that.
In his personal life, I have no doubt Tate would do this, but usually I don't think that's how he frames his brand of misogyny. He's more of a "if you don't have a harem of slaves, you're a loser beta cuck and you should either join hustler's university or kill yourself" type guy in terms of his explicit message. He literally speaks of women as though they have less agency than in the accounts of the most virulently misogynistic subculture on the internet. In general, since I'm sure one can find footage where he's crashing out over being turned down or whatever where he does all the incel stuff, because it's not like he's above it, it's just not the brand. At least, that's my impression of all this.
i dont get why he is called an incel when he is documented to be sexually active. its harmful to impose all misogyny and misogynistic violence onto people who dont have sex. for most of humanity, it was men with families, wives and children who upheld misogyny. inflating all violent misogynists with incels also makes it seem like people who are sexually active are good, mentally healthy, devoid of bigotry etc.
i think the word incel has morphed to not necessarily a virgin, but rather someone with a deeply unwell view of women and an aggressively performative fragile masculinity
yeah thats not good because thats not what it means
we live in a prescriptivist world, we don't always steer words to mean what we want them to you woke tankie liberal
amen!
i used to wonder if i had incel tendencies solely because of the sexual activity aspect and it took a while to realize that the word had a teenage-edgelord-like origin that ignored the reality that the biggest proponents of the ideology were coupled men.
To me incel is more of a toxic ideology rather than a relationship status, but I understand your concern and I agree with you that people shouldn’t be grouped with this monster just because they don’t date or have sex.
I think when people use “incel” usually it’s targeted towards a certain type of misogynist cis man who feels they are entitled to sex/affection and blame women as a whole for denying it.
I don’t date at all myself so I’m certainly not judging anyone by whether or not they do, though I also didn’t make this meme so I can’t 100% say the original intent.
incels kick people out of the incel forums if they get laid even if they've managed to do it without changing the mentality
incel requires both the not getting any and the toxic mindset these days, although the toxicity is a colonization of something that was started by a woman. and that toxicity came in and festered because hegemonic masculinity was already like that.
In his personal life, I have no doubt Tate would do this, but usually I don't think that's how he frames his brand of misogyny. He's more of a "if you don't have a harem of slaves, you're a loser beta cuck and you should either join hustler's university or kill yourself" type guy in terms of his explicit message. He literally speaks of women as though they have less agency than in the accounts of the most virulently misogynistic subculture on the internet. In general, since I'm sure one can find footage where he's crashing out over being turned down or whatever where he does all the incel stuff, because it's not like he's above it, it's just not the brand. At least, that's my impression of all this.
even those ”monsters” should not be grouped with them because its a whole different thing