
by Lee Price
Lists and the People Who Make Them
In 2006, I embarked on a mission to create the grandest movie list of them all. With help from my friends at the IMDb Classic Film Board, I set out to create a 2,000-movie list of the most essential movies of all time, borrowing the first 1,000 from the annually updated Greatest Films list at the “They Should Pictures, Don’t They?” (TSPDT) website and then adding 1,000 additional films to create the 2,000-movie list. Now, I thought, that would be a list to end all lists!
At the time, I assumed no one would be crazy enough to attempt building a larger list of essential films. I was wrong, though. There was someone crazier than me out there, someone way more ambitious, someone truly more visionary. On June 14, 2014, Wonders in the Dark published “The Most Important 5,000 Screen Works of All Time – A Chronology” by Allan Fish.
As a list maker myself, I am in awe of Allan’s work. His 5,000-film mega list is a landmark achievement. May it never be lost in the ever-swirling, murky depths of the internet. As a fellow list maker, it’s time for me to publicly pay my respects.
Technically, our lists were radically different. My “Doubling the Canon” list was a compilation built from the ratings contributed by approximately 100 regular participants on the IMDb Classic Film Board, a now-defunct but once very active community of cinephiles. It took me around 22 months to gestate the first edition of my elephantine list. Instead of overwhelming the regulars on the IMDb board with a massive poll covering a century of film, I divided the process into a series of votes, proceeding decade by decade. First, I requested titles to be considered, and then I asked participants to rate each movie on a 0-6 scale (from “Under no circumstances should this be in the canon” to “this MUST be in the canon”). One decade at a time, I compiled lists of recommended films (allowing no duplicates with the TSPDT list), requested votes on films seen, tallied the votes, and divided each film’s total by the number of votes. You enter it on the spreadsheet and snip the list at the 1,000th film, and you’ve got yourself a very big list. For the final step, I combined our 1,000 choices with the TSPDT list to form our “Doubling the Canon” list of the 2,000 greatest films of all time.
I worked within a community to build the “Doubling the Canon” list. This is not how Allan worked. His chronological list is a categorized (unranked) top 5,000 list, only different from a personal top 10 in sheer quantity. His list is a top 10 x 500. It is a personal statement. It is a work of list-making art.
In his introduction to his 5,000-film list, Allan wrote: “Each year I hope to update it, but if the fates ordain otherwise, as that’s still in the balance, then Sam (Juliano) will have to, at least with additions if not exclusions.” As we know, fate did intervene. Allan never returned to update the list. Sam has wisely decided not to update the list. As I recently wrote to Sam, “(That list is) a snapshot, incredibly valuable just as it is, both a personal statement and a snapshot of a moment in time.”
It is important to note that Allan’s 5,000-movie list does not exist in a vacuum. Sam and Allan launched the Wonders in the Dark blog on September 8, 2008; forty days later, October 18 to be exact, Alan announced his first Wonders in the Dark-based exercise in list-making. It all started with his review of the Will Hay comedy Oh Mr. Porter! (1937), which he designated #25 on a new list series of the top 25 films of the 1930s. From this point, Allan published a rapid-fire series of write-ups on each of his 25 selections, with the reviews drawn from a massive book he was writing on film masterpieces. Starting with the 1930s and then proceeding by decade (with one important detour for films prior to 1930), Alan continued to churn out these ranked reviews of great movies through July 2010, finishing with a total of 500 reviews of the “best” movies from the beginning of film through 2009. Continue Reading »