July 2026 meeting: Favourite Austen hero

July 23, 2026

Following our successful May meeting when we discussed Austen’s worst villain, we decided to look at her heroes in July. The topic was framed as “Who is the best hero in Austen’s novels, and why? (In other words, choose your favourite hero and present your case.)” So, in fact, we did not try for an “objective” analysis but for each person to name their favourite. The degree to which that involved which one got our hearts pumping – at least the females among us – we didn’t explore, but some of our romantic preferences were exposed nonetheless.

For comparison purposes, one asked AI (Google Gemini) what it “thought”. Its answers were interesting*, so we’ll start with those:

  1. Fitzwilliam Darcy (Pride & Prejudice)
  2. Captain Frederick Wentworth (Persuasion)
  3. Mr George Knightley (Emma)
  4. Henry Tilney (Northanger Abbey)

This member also shared the Thornfield blog’s “definitive list” (as shared on Reddit):

  1. Frederick Wentworth
  2. Henry Tilney
  3. Colonel Christopher Brandon
  4. Fitzwilliam Darcy
  5. Edward Ferrars
  6. Edmund Bertram

Both these lists raised various eyebrows amongst our members present, particularly concerning Tilney, Ferrars and Bertram, but given the eye of the beholder and all that, we moved on.

From the seven present at our meeting, plus three non-attendees who emailed their choices, we had:

  1. Fitzwilliam Darcy (3 votes)
  2. George Knightley (2 votes)
  3. Colonel Brandon (2 votes)
  4. Captain Harville, Sir John Middleton and Elinor Dashwood (1 vote each).

(We are not sure what our Elinor Dashwood member will do for our “heroine” meeting later in the year!)

What is a hero?

Not everyone discussed definitions specifically, though what we meant did come up in most presentations, one way or another. A couple looked at the definition in terms of “literary hero”, which encompasses the idea of a main character who experiences growth. One added the notion of “romantic literary hero” which she suggested means someone most likely in their twenties, dashing and debonair, but who also has to change to get their woman. Another turned to Wiktionary which she said provided changing meanings over time, from ideas about physical bravery and legendary or noble acts in the Middle Ages, through ideas about virtue around the 18th century, to modern definitions encompassing traits like selflessness and moral integrity. She based her choice (Colonel Brandon) on these most recent traits.

Another (who chose Darcy) quoted lines from Bonnie Tyler’s song, “Holding out for a hero”:

He’s gotta be strong and he’s gotta be fast
And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight

We also discussed the idea of “favourites” not “best”, which added a personal dimension to our choices and resulted in some interesting discussions and revelations! Wickham and Willoughby, anyone? Our lips are sealed.

So, our choices …

Three members chose Darcy, albeit with reservations said one. One shared, as she had before, an image of Darcy as he most likely looked – shorter and more muscular – not as he appears in modern films.

Those who chose Darcy did so for the obvious reasons. He’s the ultimate hero, he has it all – is wealthy, handsome, learns he was wrong, and rescues the Bennet family though he doesn’t have to.

However, all agreed he’s not perfect. As one said, he was a “jerk” at times, with his extreme introversion making him rude. This member quoted from an article by Sebastian Faulks (see Sources) who describes him as “an awful man”. He’s been “too much deferred to” but we are encouraged to believe that “because he has a clear view of society, is generous with his fortune and has a kind heart despite his unfortunate manner, he needs only to fall in love with a woman who treats him not with deference but as an equal” to be fine. However, says Faulks, he is “unforgivably cruel” to Elizabeth about her “unfortunate connections”, “yet we are asked to accept that Darcy’s deep ignorance of how to behave can be ‘fixed’ by a witty girl”.

Essentially, Faulks thinks Darcy has clinical depression, “the victim of morbid melancholy”. Even after he is engaged to Elizabeth he talks of past faults – “painful recollections will intrude”. Faulks suggests Darcy does not tell Elizabeth about Bingley being in town when Jane is, because he can’t lose Bingley, which would happen if Bingley made an inferior marriage. Then Faulks turns to Elizabeth, and wonders about her love for Darcy. How can anyone love a man who believes her family is “repugnant” and “objectionable”? He wonders whether Elizabeth thinks she can ‘mother him or “cure” him of his melancholy’ and suggests it was “the miraculous intervention” of Lady Catherine which drove Elizabeth to him.

Faulks argues that “the idea of Darcy as a romantic gallant is a delusion of the reader not an intention of the writer”. He doesn’t see a romantic story but one reflecting Austen’s times:

instead of having a lively mistress, providing vitality as though on prescription, he has lumbered himself for ever with the whole Bennet ménage. That seems a fair reflection of the way such things were in Jane Austen’s world. Motives are mixed; everything is more compromised than it seems at first. Marriage was a messy business in 1813.

Another member who chose Darcy, because he’s good and kind, also recognised that he’s not perfect. He’s awkward and uncomfortable. She quoted a Margaret Wilson who suggests that he lacks passion. This drew a shocked response from the first Darcy-ite, who quoted, “In vain have I struggled. It will not do. My feelings will not be repressed. You must allow me to tell you how ardently I admire and love you” etc.

This member also referred to Sarah Ailwood’s article in Sensibilities, in which she quoted Mary Russell who said in 1814 that Darcy should have married Jane!

‘…it is possible not to feel in every line of Pride and Prejudice, in every word of ‘Elizabeth’, the entire want of taste which could produce so pert, so worldly a heroine as the beloved of such a man as Darcy. Wickham is equally bad. Oh! they were just fit for each other, and I cannot forgive that delightful Darcy for parting them. Darcy should have married Jane. He is of all admirable characters the best designed and the best sustained.’ 

Ailwood, continued our member, considers that Darcy reflects the changing idea of masculinity, which occurred through the 18th and 19th centuries, due, at least in part, to the publication of ‘conduct literature’ especially Fordyce’s Elegant Extracts; or useful and entertaining passages in prose selected for the improvement of Scholars at Classical and Other Schools in the Art of Speaking, in Reading, Thinking, Composing; and in the Conduct of Life.

This member agreed that he’s depressed. He didn’t have anything in his life to move him forward. By the end, he’s not perfect, but he has grown, and has more resilience.

Our final Darcy-ite quoted Christopher Brooke. He says Austen reveals more of Darcy than she does of her other heroes, and that he is literature’s first outstanding male portrait. Darcy recognises Elizabeth’s values and mind but the way he has been raised makes it hard for him to accept her. The sensible Gardiners provide a conduit. In the second part of the novel the two characters come closer together, with her conduct being closer to the breeding he expects. Interestingly, said this member, aristocrats could be vulgar and rude. Just look at Lady Catherine’s behaviour and treatment of others. Nonetheless, Darcy does present an 18th century idea of what a gentleman could be. And, Elizabeth and Darcy bring out the best in each other.

Then this member got waylaid by thinking about Cohn Firth, who captures Darcy’s vulnerability. He had the right alchemy, making him the right actor in the right role.

Two members chose Mr Knightley, because, said one, he’s the foundation of the community. He’s sensible, cheerful, one of the only people to recognise faults in Emma. Moreover, Emma, not to mention the whole community, respects him. This member believes that men of sense do not want silly wives. Mr Knightley sees good in Emma.

The other member noted that George Knightley is not dashing or debonair, but chose him because he is loyal, patient, “a sensible man”, and kind to others. He respects other humans, seeing beyond the superficial (including class) when he helps or supports Robert Martin, Miss Bates, Harriet Smith. And, he agrees to move into his father-in-law’s house at the end, for Emma’s sake.

But, psychologist Michele Larrow argues that he does have to learn to accept Emma as an equal. So, in fact, like a “traditional literary hero” he does need to grow. Larrow tests him against Adam Smith’s ideas about amiability and “benevolent sympathy”, which means being able to imagine another person’s feelings. At the start, Knightley lectures Emma, constantly plays the age card, and doesn’t listen to her ideas (including over the Robert Martin proposal, and particularly their discussion about Frank Churchill’s duty). By the second half of the novel, he starts to understand her pain.

Larrow argues that in the proposal scene Emma shows her maturity by inviting him to share whatever he wishes, even if it’s her greatest fear, that he will marry Harriet. Mr Knightley declares his love to Emma “in a tone of . . . sincere, decided, intelligible tenderness”. He recognises that she has borne his lecturing and criticism with grace. He understands something of her painful feelings.

Of all the “hero” choices this one caused the greatest discussion, with some members bothered about the age-difference and that he had dangled Emma on his knee when she was a child. Others saw Regency times as different, and so it did not bother them. The naysayers didn’t like his lecturing, found him too pompous, and therefore definitely NOT a hero.

Another two members chose Colonel Brandon, one doing so on the basis of that third definition of hero which encompasses selflessness and moral integrity. She enumerated his virtues including looking after both Elizas (without bragging), the duel to defend the younger Eliza’s honour, his kindness to Edward Ferrars, his love for Marianne. He’s strong, she said.

An absent member wrote that she chose him because he was “heroic in a rather traditional sense”. He tried to elope with his cousin whom he loved to save her from having to marry against her will. He searched for her as soon as he returned to England and looked after her until her untimely death, then took on responsibility for her daughter, without judgement.

Sir John Middleton was another member’s choice for his chivalry, moral integrity, dependability, and generosity. Not only did he offer the Dashwoods “a small house on very easy terms”, but he repaired it, welcomed them and looked after them when they arrive. He showed care for their comfort, looked after their mail, invited them to his house and brought them into the community. And he introduced Colonel Brandon to Marianne. She admitted that she might have been influenced by having a wealthy member in her extended family who has done nothing to help another struggling member!

No one chose Captain Wentworth, despite the expectation of an absent member. Another absent member wondered how anyone could choose someone “who bragged about making money fast on a ‘lovely cruise off the Western Islands’, whilst omitting to mention the probable deaths of both his crew and enemy. Who held a bitter grudge for eight years against the woman he loved and warmly likened women, Freudian slip, to hazelnuts?” Further, she said, when Louisa “falls off some stairs this ‘hero’ goes to pieces, leaving Anne Elliot to rise to the occasion until Captain Harville ‘brought senses and nerves that could be instantly useful; and a look between him and his wife decided what was to be done.’  ‘He was to be obeyed; they were all beneath his roof. Assistance, cordials, restoratives…..were supplied to all who needed them.’ So, referencing Alistair Duckworth, she chose Captain Harville.

He’s a tall dark man with a sensible, benevolent countenance, a little lame since a severe wound two years before and his taste, health and fortune had directed him to an inexpensive residence by the sea with rooms so small as none but those who invite from the heart could think of accommodating so many. His manners, she wrote, may not have been equal to Wentworth’s but he was a perfect gentleman, unaffected, warm and obliging. He’s hospitable to an uncommon degree and regards his wife and children “the treasures of his existence”. He’s not known for grand acts of bravery, but faces a world without prospects with resilience and fortitude. He has the inner resources to enable him to create a happy home, and finds constant employment:

He drew, he varnished, he carpentered,, he glued; he made toys for the children, he fashioned new netting-needles and pins with improvements; and if every thing else was done, sat down to his large fishing-net at one corner of the room. 

Our member argued that of all the responses to adversity in the novel, his is closest to Anne’s and to Jane Austen’s heart!

And, one member went gender-neutral and chose Elinor Dashwood, arguing that her quiet strength navigates the precarity of life for her family after her father’s death. She amply demonstrates her ability to stay calm when the awful Lucy Steele reveals her engagement to Edward Ferrars, knowing that his love for Elinor has been a subject of banter in the Middleton household. Her care for Marianne when the latter’s world falls apart after Willoughby’s defection and her life is in danger, and Elinor has to deal with both Colonel Brandon and Willoughby, is a model of emotional fortitude.

Journalist Shukla wrote in 2025 that:

Austen’s female protagonists endure because they are thinkers. They observe the world critically, even when they must navigate it carefully. Elizabeth Bennet’s wit, Anne Elliot’s quiet endurance and Elinor Dashwood’s emotional discipline are not passive virtues. They are survival strategies.

Austen understood that “intelligence does not always lead to agency”. Her heroines “often know more than they are permitted to act upon”. Shukla makes the point that

This tension between awareness and constraint remains painfully familiar. Austen did not need the language of feminism to write feminist fiction.

That seems a good point to end this post about heroes on, don’t you think?

Sources

Sarah Ailwood, “Such a man as Darcy: Masculinity in transition in Pride and Prejudice, Sensibilities CHECK 2004
Christopher Brooke, Jane Austen: Illusion and reality, 1999
Alistair M. Duckworth, The improvement of the estate, Johns Hopkins University Press, 1994
Sebastian Faulks, “He is such as awful man: Why readers are wrong about Mr Darcy“, BBC.com, 9 September 2025
Michele Larrow, “Could he even have seen into her heart”: Mr. Knightley’s development of sympathy“, Persuasions Online 37 (1), Winter 2016
Girish Shukla, “Jane Austen at 250: Why her novels still understand human nature better than most modern fiction“, Times Now News, 16 December 2025

* Just like us humans however, AI can change its mind if you ask the question a different time, or in a slightly different way.


June 2025 meeting: Jane Austen’s Letters (97 to the end)

July 6, 2026

We can now take some pride in having finished, over three meetings, an epic reading of Jane Austen’s letters – 348 pages, but that doesn’t include the notes and BiographicaI index. For our June meeting we read from letter 97 (October 1813) until the end of the book (July1817). The book, of course, is Deirdre Le Faye’s Jane Austen’s Letters

One member was interested in how Le Faye came to undertake the massive work of collecting and editing the letters, and related a few key points from an article Le Faye wrote on the topic for JASNA’s Persuasions. Le Faye relates that her interest in Austen was a gradual one over many years, but that what became her life’s work was really sparked by her unexpected discovery of a memorial to Philadelphia Hancock (Jane’s aunt), her daughter and grandson in a graveyard in Hampstead. This prompted further interest and research into the Austen family. Eventually, the Austen-Leigh heirs asked her if she would be interested in producing a second edition of the family biography. This resulted in Jane Austen: A Family Record, published in 1989 by the British Library, which led to her being asked to work on a new edition of Dr Chapman’s Letters. She was working on this when she wrote this article. Le Faye’s article includes many interesting comments about the nature of the work she undertook, including about about the letters themselves (omissions, disappearances, spelling etc). Having typed up all the letters, she empathises with Jane’s comments on how tired her hand becomes when writing letters.

One member commented that in this group of letters we see a ‘different’ Jane – the gossipy sister writing to Cassandra about everyday matters (a style with which we are familiar), but also the aunt writing to her nieces Anna Austen/Lefroy and Fanny Knight (in ‘Agony Aunt’ style to this latter), and the businesswoman writing to her brother, Henry. 

Several members commented on the letters relating to Jane’s illness, death, funeral and burial.

One member wondered why Jane was buried in Winchester Cathedral (which suggests some eminence) and who organised it – her brother Henry perhaps? or her brother Edward? For a possible answer to this question, see Collins Hemingway’s blog. Henry wrote the text of her memorial stone which refers to the ‘extraordinary endowments of her mind’ but did not mention her novels. 

One member, a retired medical practitioner, mentioned an article by Sir Zachary Cope that he had read as a student, which diagnosed Jane’s final illness as tubercular Addison’s disease. (This diagnosis has since been disputed with several other possibilities being suggested and no definitive answer agreed) .

Also on the subject of Jane’s illness and death, two or three  members commented on Cassandra’s letter to Fanny Knight, dated 20 July 1817, about Jane’s death and her funeral, and in particular Cassandra’s very moving words about her sister:

‘I have lost a Treasure, such a sister, such a friend as can never have been surpassed …’ 

Our remote member contributed the following observations about the letters: 

The last letters have always been very moving but this time, as we are much older and familiar with life’s adversities ourselves, they resonate for us on a deeper, more personal level. From Letter 145 in September 1816, when Jane mentions back pain and a desire for a ‘few days quiet’ to Letter 161 on 29 May 1817, Jane faced her symptoms with optimism and good humour, always hoping for an improvement. In Letter 153 on 13 March 1817, despite her desperate condition, she planned to take to riding the donkey, had a saddle made, took her first ride and ‘liked it very much.’ It was to Fanny Knight and Anne Sharp that she divulged her deterioration the most and it is to them Cassandra’s letters are addressed. It is impossible to read Cassandra’s letters without shedding a tear. She was indeed a fine writer. 

One member also discussed Jane’s correspondence with the Reverend James Stanier Clarke, Librarian to the Prince of Wales. This correspondence is by now quite well-known, but as the member commented, Mr Stanier’s letters seemed to take on ‘an almost flirtatious’ tone. We wondered (not too seriously) if we had discovered a hitherto unknown might-have-been romance in Jane’s life. In Letter 132(A), he even goes so far as to offer her the use of his library at his ‘cell’ at no 37, Golden Square, when she comes to Town. Was he hoping for further meetings? Jane does not appear to have obliged him. (For more on Golden Square, check out the Jane Austen’s London blog.)

Letters to niece Anna

One member concentrated on Jane’s letters to her niece Anna.  All but one of them are in the last part of the volume – 17 letters in total. What caught the member’s attention were the letters in which Jane offered advice to Anna on her draft novel, which Jane and Cassandra read in ‘books’ as Anna sent it to them. What was this novel, she wondered, and what did Jane make of it?

In Letter 103, [?mid July 1814; some is missing] Jane thanks Anna for her manuscript’ ‘It has entertained me extremely, all of us indeed. I read it aloud to your GM- and At C – and we were all very much pleased – The Spirit does not droop at all.’ After some positive comments about the characters and a few suggestions (mainly about matters of etiquette) she writes ‘If you think differently however, you need not mind me – I am impatient for more …’

In her next letter to Anna (104), dated 10 – 11 August 1814, she writes: ‘I like the name “Which is the Heroine?’ very well, & I daresay shall grow to like it very much in time – but “Enthusiasm” was something so very superior that every common Title must appear to disadvantage.’ 

Continuing the letter the next day, she writes: ‘We have just finished the 1st of the 3 books the I had the pleasure of receiving yesterday; I read it aloud – & we were all very much amused, & like the work quite as well as ever. I depend upon getting through another book before dinner, but three is really a great deal of respectable reading in your 48 pages. I was an hour about it – I have no doubt that 6 will make a very good-sized volume – You must be quite pleased to have accomplished so much.’ She expresses further compliments about some of the characters and makes many constructive comments about details of etiquette, geography etc. 

On Thursday she writes “We finished it last night … The last Chapter does not please us quite so well, we do not thoroughly like the Play; perhaps from having had too much of Plays in that way lately. – And we think you had better not leave England. Let the Portmans go to Ireland, but as you know nothing of the Manners there, you had better not growth them. You will be in danger of giving false representations.’Stick toBath and the Foresters. There you will be quite at home.’

She then relates some comments from Cassandra (with which she does not necessarily agree) and concludes, referring to St Julian’s ‘serious conversation’ with Cecelia, ‘I liked it exceedingly ; – what he says about the madness of otherwise Sensible Women, on the subject of their daughters coming out, is worth its’ weight in gold – I do not see that the language sinks. Pray go on.’

In Letter 107, dated 9 – 18 September, Jane writes: ‘We have been very much amused by your 3 books, but I have a good many criticisms to make – more than you will like.’ Despite this warning, her comments seem to be thoughtful and constructive and she praises the character of Susan. ‘You are now collecting your People delightfully, getting them into exactly into such a spot as is the delight of my life – 3 or 4 Families in a Country Village is the very thing to work on – & I hope you will write a great deal more & make full use of them while they are so favourably arranged.’You are but know coming to the heart and beauty of the book; till the heroine grows us, the fun must be imperfect – but I expect a great deal of entertainment from the next 3 or 4 books, I hope you will not resent these remarks by sending me no more.’ Further detailed, but constructive, comments follow in this, and the following letter [108, 18 September 1814].

We can thank Anna for sending her book to her aunt, as this provoked a few of Jane’s all too rare observations about her approach to writing fiction, such as: write about what you know, create novels from 3 or 4 families in a country village, ensure that characters behave consistently, be accurate in references to places, distances, use of titles etc. Another member also noted that Jane’s comment about her writing being ‘the little bit (two inches wide) of Ivory on which I work with so fine a Brush’ occurs in a letter to her nephew, Janes Edward Austen (Anna’s half-brother), in contrast to his own ‘strong, manly spirited Sketches, full of variety & Glow’. (Letter 146)

In Letter 108 she makes her much-quoted comment about the novels of Walter Scott: ‘Walter Scott has no business to write novels, especially good ones. – It is not fair – He has Fame & Profit enough as a Poet, and should not be taking the bread out of other people’s mouths. – I do not like him, and do not mean to like Waverley if I can help it – but fear I must… I have made up my mind to like no novels really but Miss Edgeworth’s, yours & my own.’

What was the fate of Anna’s novel? There seem to have been a lot of characters but it is difficult to discern what the plot may have been. In a footnote (2) to Letter 103, Le Faye quotes at length from Anna’s daughter, Fanny-Caroline Lefroy. The obstacles to the novel’s conclusion included the fact that Anna had seven children and Jane’s death, which resulted in the loss of the criticism and encouragement that her aunt had provided. The story was put away for years and one day Fanny-Caroline related witnessing her mother burn the manuscript ‘in a fit of despondency.’

Anna also attempted, but did not complete, a continuation of Sanditon, as discussed by Peter Sabor. 

Sources

Sir Zachary Cope, “Extract from British Medical Journal of 18th July 1964” and commentary
Deirdre Le Faye, “Jane Austen’s letters“, Persuasions #14 (1992)
Deirdre Le Faye, Jane Austen’s letters, Third/New edition , Oxford University Press, 1995.
Peter Sabor, ‘”The Same Difference as between Real Lace, & Imitation”: Anna Lefroy’s Continuation of Sanditon Revisited’, Persuasions Online, 38 (2), Spring 2018


May 2026 meeting: Austen’s worst villain

May 24, 2026

For our May meeting, we set ourselves the challenge of choosing the character we think is the worst villain in Austen’s novels, and of course, we all looked at the question from different angles.

Just for comparison purposes, one asked AI (Google Gemini) what it thought. Its answers were interesting*, so we’ll start with those:

  1. Mrs Norris (Mansfield Park)
  2. Lady Susan Vernon (Lady Susan)
  3. George Wickham (Pride & Prejudice)
  4. William Walter Elliot (Persuasion)
  5. Fanny Dashwood (Sense & Sensibility)

Only one of the members present chose one of AI’s choices, but for very particular reasons that had less to do with what this character did than with what Jane Austen thought. This member suggested there were different ways of looking at the question:

  1. Is it the person we most dislike?
  2. Is it the person we think does the most damage – actually or potentially?
  3. Is it the person to whom Jane gives the greatest come-uppance?

For this member, the third option was the deciding factor. She likes Austen and likes her judgement of people, so she was interested in which character ends up in the worst position at the end of an Austen novel. Her answer? Mrs Norris. Willoughby, Wickham, and Crawford all live with regret, but have reasonable lives (albeit Wickham’s is, admittedly, a hand-to-mouth struggle). Willoughby is let off particularly lightly, achieving a degree of “domestic felicity”! William Elliot probably lives with regret too, but does inherit Kellynch Hall. Northanger Abbey’s villains do not cause too much trouble, as Austen herself suggests. And Churchill, well, as one member said, he’s not so much a villain as a prat! Mrs Norris, on the other hand, is thoroughly ousted by Austen – out of the country even – to look after her sinning niece. It’s not a happy end, Austen tells us, for either of them:

“shut up together with little society, on one side no affection, on the other no judgment, it may be reasonably supposed that their tempers became their mutual punishment”.

Only one villain was chosen by two members – the egregious Henry Crawford. Indeed one member, in researching this topic, came to change her mind completely about Crawford. In times past, she thought Fanny could redeem him. However, both members were excoriating about Crawford’s failings – and about his sister’s role as co-consiprator. Interestingly, he’s “black and plain”, unlike the Ws, and warns himself at the beginning to “let them [the Bertrams] avoid Henry” – but to no avail. Our members outlined Crawford’s behaviour, describing him as the quintessential predatory male (albeit he faces strong competition from Willoughby and Wickham). He is divisive and disruptive from the moment he appears. He encourages Maria to prefer him, he calculatedly goes after Fanny, wanting to “make a hole in her heart”, and he blames Maria in the end for his misfortune. But, in the double-standard of the time, he gets off in a way that Maria Bertram – who is exiled with Mrs Norris – does not. Indeed, he is not even left saddled like Wickham and Willoughby, and appears to be redeemable?

The three other members present chose more surprising villains, which engendered a little more discussion than the aforementioned three.

Emma and Mr Woodhouse
Détail dune illustration du chapitre 17 du volume III : Emma et son père (Hugh Thompson, 1896, Public Domain)

One member referenced Richard Jenkyns who labelled Mr Woodhouse as the worst villain in Emma. That surprised us, but we listened. An important criterion for Jenkyns concerns the control Mr Woodhouse has over Emma’s life. Jenkyns suggests, said our member, that Emma is the happiest territory for those who want to see Jane Austen as a Tory philosopher promoting an ideal version of paternalism hierarchy, ruralism and social order. But, says Jenkyns, Mr Woodhouse is a selfish idle parasite, resulting in the spiritual welfare of the place being in the hands of a mean-spirited creep. He sees Emma and Mansfield Park as a pair. Although different in tone and plot, they are written close together and make a pair of studies of imprisonment and eventual liberation.

Jenkyns elaborates on Emma’s imprisonment throughout the book, which we have discussed before. She’s never been to the sea, to London, or even Box Hill. She has no friends, and so on. In fact, our recent discussion of Emma prompted us to devote a meeting to female isolation – we didn’t use the word imprisonment – in Austen’s novels. Jenkyns argues that while Mr Woodhouse is one of Austen’s finest comic creations, her cleverness lies in making him also a monster. He almost rivals Mrs Norris as an enemy of life and of other people’s enjoyment. His rank and wealth enable him to “command” his circle, to make the world revolve around him and his wants and needs. All this has been underestimated, because Austen couches her criticism in descriptions like “gentle selfishness” and “mild inexorability”.

The question is, is he too passive to be an active force of malignancy? Why is he so beloved? Austen’s brilliance, argues Jenkyns, lies in her ability to show the interplay of his conscious and subconscious motives, and that his passivity is aggressive and rapacious. Austen makes him, at once, “such a menace and such a dear”!

As some members did, another member shared her criterion for her choice, which is that, for her, Austen’s most villainous people are the men who, in pursuit of wealth, try to force or pressure wealthy heiresses to marry them, or conversely, if the women are not wealthy, end the relationship, perhaps after seducing them, rather than marrying them. She shared some examples: Mr Wickham, who tries to persuade Georgiana Darcy, a wealthy heiress, to marry him, and later runs away with Lydia Bennett, with no intention of marrying her as she has no inheritance; Willoughby, who drops Marianne after his inheritance is cut off by his wealthy aunt and marries a wealthy heiress instead (although it is not suggested that she was pressured or forced into the marriage); and Henry Crawford, who seduces Maria Rushworth, a married woman (although a willing participant in the seduction) and then ends the relationship rather than wait for her in inevitable divorce. These sorts of behaviours can leave the women (and their families) in a very difficult position, unless they are fortunate enough to be ‘rescued’ by someone like Darcy.

She then said that the worst ‘villain’ of this kind is one who does not receive much attention, although the story influences the plot. The villain is Colonel Brandon’s father in Sense and Sensibility. In Volume 3, Chapter IX, Colonel Brandon tells Elinor the sad story of his cousin Eliza Brandon, whom he loved but who was married “against her inclination” to Colonel Brandon’s brother, under the guidance of her uncle and guardian, Colonel Brandon’s father:

‘Her fortune was large, and our family estate much encumbered. And this, I fear, is all that can be said for the conduct of one, who was at once her uncle and her guardian. My brother did not deserve her; he did not even love her …. We were within a few hours of eloping together for Scotland …I was banished to the house of a relation far distant, and she was allowed no liberty, no society, no amusement, till my father’s point was gained.’

The marriage was unhappy, and they divorced. By the time Colonel Brandon returned from his regiment in the East Indies and managed to track her down to a spunging house, she was in the last stages of consumption. All he could do was look after her until her last moments, and take on guardianship of her only child. Brandon relates how he had looked after this child since then, but not quite successfully, because she met up with Willoughby, who seduced her: ‘He left her, promising to return; he neither returned, nor wrote, nor relieved her.’ This as we know, results in a duel between Brandon and Willoughby. Brandon tells Elinor that as soon as Eliza recovered from her lying-in, he removed her and the child to the country, and ‘there she remains.’ So, said our member, Colonel Brandon’s father’s cruel (villainous!) behaviour had multigenerational ramifications.

While some of our choices were more controversial than others, the final one probably won the prize for the most controversial, Mrs Smith in Persuasion. Our member’s argument was primarily political. She looked at the slave trade, and thought about the way she felt Austen normalised income from slave trade, such as that of Mrs Elton’s family and Sir Thomas Bertram. (She also wondered about where the wealth of some other characters comes from.) Our member’s main concern was the way Mrs Smith wanted to enlist Anne’s help in retrieving her money from her West Indies property, via her marriage to Mr Elliot. However, others present did not agree that Mrs Smith actively encouraged Anne to marry Mr Elliot. We saw it more that she thought she’d take the opportunity to obtain help when she thought the marriage was happening, but withdrew her request as soon as she discovered this marriage was not inevitable as she’d been given to believe. As an aside, our member noted that Austen’s family had connections on both sides of the slavery debate.

Our remote member wrote in that John Thorpe was her “most loathed villain”.

It was such an interesting discussion that we decided to turn our thoughts to heroes in a future meeting.

Source:

Richard Jenkyns, A fine brush on ivory: An appreciation of Jane Austen, OUP, 2004

* Just like us humans however, AI can change its mind if you ask the question a different time, or in a slightly different way.


April 2026 meeting: Persuasion, Vol 2

May 4, 2026

In April, we concluded our slow read of Persuasion, which we started with Vol. 1 in March (see post). While Austen’s first four novels were published in three volumes, the last two – Persuasion and Northanger Abbey – were published in two volumes.

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This month’s meeting was a bit smaller than last month’s bumper one, and we suddenly had to find a new venue when, upon arrival at the Library, we found the Friends Room was closed, but that didn’t stop us. When it comes to Jane we find a way.

As with our previous post, this post does not necessarily follow the order of our discussion but puts our ideas into some semblance of order. So, we start with the point made later in the discussion that Persuasion is the only novel that Austen specifically dates. In the novel’s opening chapter, we are told it is the summer of 1814, and halfway through volume 2, just before the novel’s denouement, we are told it is February (1815). Anne Elliot has been in Bath for a month, and during this month the Crofts, Captain Wentworth, and the Musgroves arrive. By the end of the month, Anne and Captain Wentworth have reunited and are engaged. We assume, said our member, that they marry shortly after.

Coinciding with this fictional timeline is the historical one. By April 1814, Napoleon had been defeated and is exiled on Elba, ending years of war. He escapes in February 1815, and is finally defeated at Waterloo in June 1815. Austen started writing Persuasion two months after Napoleon’s defeat, in August 1815, and finished it in August 1816. Our member suggested that all those critics who say Austen didn’t write about upheaval, about war and peace, have got it wrong. This novel is all about a society in flux. Comparing the novel’s time-line with that of Austen’s writing explains that Austen knew, when she wrote her final lines, that Anne, as a naval wife, would indeed be facing war again.

She gloried in being a sailor’s wife, but she must pay the tax of quick alarm for belonging to that profession which is, if possible, more distinguished in its domestic virtues than in its national importance. 

We also discussed what Austen meant by “domestic”. Did she simply mean that naval men made good family men or, in this novel about changing ideas about merit and rank, was she referring to their formal role within the country versus their strategic importance in war. In email discussion later, we agreed with that Austen is primarily arguing that naval people (part of the new professional middle-class) are superior to the old, landed gentry (like Sir Walter) in terms of their stability, kindness, and moral worth.

We talked again about style and structure, with one talking about two chapters, the first being Chapter 21 (Vol. 2 Ch. 9) which is devoted to Mrs Smith. Did we need all that information she wondered? Yes, we decided, as it conveys more than information. For example, in visiting Mrs Smith that day, Anne gives her friend precedence over higher ranking people. We also see the despair in a poor life and Mrs Smith’s hope for help. And it reveals another of Austen’s parallels, this one reminding us of 19-year-old Anne’s decision when Mrs Smith says of herself, “At nineteen, you know, one does not think very seriously”.

This member also talked of the beautifully structured letter-writing scene (Chapter 23; Vol. 2 Ch. 11). It starts with Captain Harville showing Anne the picture of the miniature painting of Benwick which is to be “set” for Louisa and about which Captain Wentworth is writing a letter. This leads to Anne and Harville talking about men and women and constancy, while Wentworth writes the letter, and we end up with the letter. We discussed how this scene is written with Wentworth’s letter-writing being playing in the background – a one stage his “pen ceased to move” and a little later “his pen had fallen down”.

This is the letter (“you pierce my soul”) described by some as the best love letter in the English language, but one of our members questions that such a letter could have been written by a fighting naval man! She sees it as an older woman’s fantasy letter.

Another member felt that this letter made her feel that Anne represents Jane Austen. She liked Anne’s point that men have professions to turn to – to take their minds off grief – which women don’t have.

Language was another topic, with one member being struck by some specific usage, which are not common now, such as:

  • Mary Musgrove “laying out for some compliments…” (Vol. 2 Ch. 3)
  • Lady Russell excusing Mr Elliot for “only erring in the hey-day of youth” (Vol 2. Ch. 4),
  • Mrs Smith being described in your youth as “the fine-looking, well-grown Miss Hamilton) (Vol 2. Ch. 5)
  • Lady Dalrymple describing Captain Wentworth as having “More air than one often sees in Bath” (Vol. 2. Ch. 8)
  • Anne who “closed the fatigues of the present day” (Vol. 2 Ch. 10)

He also noted the frequent use in the novel of the words ”felicity” and “felicitousness”.

Of course, we talked about various characters. Lady Russell was mentioned by several. It was suggested that she lacked emotional intelligence, and was not convincing as a friend for Anne. She lies about seeing Wentworth, for example. She’s a poor judge of character, seeing Mr Elliot as good for Anne, when Mrs Smith calls him “black at heart”. She is a snob, and doesn’t like Captain Wentworth’s rank recklessness. However, we also recognised that in small societies, people interfered in each other’s lives while having to remain polite and get on with each other.

We briefly talked about how Elizabeth and Anne have nothing in common, and that when Anne’s engagement is announced, the best Elizabeth can be is “cold and unconcerned”.

Not surprisingly, Mary Musgrove was a popular topic. One member loves Mary’s letter to Anne in Bath (Vol. 2 Ch. 6) in which she complains about 22 things (in the 44 lines in his edition) while another absent member sent in her notes later. She sees Anne Elliot and Mary Musgrove as a comic binary, and said she had been brought, yet again, to appreciate Jane Austen’s skill in rendering comic characters. She suggested that Mary Musgrove, whose self-centred actions and snobbish actions are regularly contrasted with her calm, other-centred sister Anne, is a comic creation (almost) to equal Mrs Elton in EmmaPersuasion‘s first volume demonstrates Mary’s selfish character all too clearly, and culminating in our seeing Captain Wentworth’s visible contempt at Mary’s behaviour.

Volume 2, then, consolidates Mary’s selfishness and snobbery that had been established in Volume 1. Our member argues that she’s as culpable as the deplorable Sir Walter and Elizabeth Elliot. In fact, she suggested that in some situations, Mary’s behaviour and attitudes are even more heavily satirised than those of her father and older sister. An example includes Mary’s letter to Anne in Bath, which contains that aforementioned litany of complaints. Both members drew attention to what our absent member called “a staggering feat of hypocrisy”, the one where Mary, having criticised Mrs Harville for leaving her children at Uppercross for an extended period while she cared for Louisa, says about coming to Bath:

‘I do not expect my children to be asked, you know. I can leave them at the Great House very well, for a month or six weeks.’

She mentioned another telling point that we had briefly discussed, the argument (Vol. 2 Ch. 10) between Mary and husband Charles about attending a play versus Sir Walter’s evening reception. While Mary argues that “all the principal family connexions” – including Mr Elliot – should take precedence over a play, Charles, asserting his disdain for such pretensions, makes the real point:

“Phoo! phoo!,” replied Charles, “what’s an evening party? Never worth remembering. Your father might have asked us to dinner, I think, if he had wanted to see us …”

He’s right – but the scene provides an opportunity for Anne to express her preference, and for Captain Wentworth to observe the difference in values between the two sisters.

Finally, there is the scene in the final chapter that a few members mentioned, Mary’s reaction to Anne and Captain Wentworth’s engagement:

Of all the family, Mary was probably the one most immediately gratified by the circumstance. It was creditable to have a sister married, and she might flatter herself with having been greatly instrumental to the connexion, by keeping Anne with her in the autumn; and as her own sister must be better than her husband’s sisters, it was very agreeable that Captain Wentworth should be a richer man than either Captain Benwick or Charles Hayter.

The reactions to the engagement particularly interested one member. She said that we are given the thoughts of Sir Walter, Elizabeth, Lady Russell (who looks, she said, “a bit dumb”), Mary, Mr Elliot, and Mrs Smith, but she would like to have known what others thought: the Crofts, Louisa and Henrietta (who thought the Captain liked them), and Captain Wentworth’s friends.

While we were discussing Captain Wentworth and Anne, one member said she’d noticed that at the end, Captain Wentworth seems to take all the blame for their long separation, while Anne takes none, saying:

“I have been thinking over the past, and trying impartially to judge of the right and wrong, – I mean with regard to myself; and I must believe that I was right, much as I suffered from it, that I was perfectly right in being guided by the friend whom you will love better than you do now. To me, she was in the place of a parent. … I have now, as far as such a sentiment is allowable in human nature, nothing to reproach myself with; and if I mistake not, a strong sense of duty is no bad part of a woman’s portion.”

This member pointed to Anne’s comment about “a strong sense of duty”. If Anne speaks for Jane, as a member had proposed, is this what Jane thinks?

Once again, Austen proved that we will never tire of reading and discussing her novels.

Sources

Rachel Trickett, “Jane Austen’s Comedy and the Nineteenth Century” in B.C. Southam, Critical essays on Jane Austen, 1968  


March 2026 meeting: Persuasion, Vol 1

April 12, 2026

Continuing our current round of slow-reading of the novels, we turn in 2026 to Persuasion, which we last did in 2017, the 200th anniversary of the novel’s publication. Once again, this slow read follows our slow reads of Austen’s four previous novels, Emma (in 2025), Mansfield Park (in 2024), Pride and prejudice (in 2023), and Sense and sensibility (in 2022). 

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We had our biggest attendance for some time at this meeting, with three new attendees, and one nearly new. As always, we individually shared our insights from this read, but some ideas recurred. Our remote member sent in her thoughts, which were that after many previous re-readings and our 2017 discussions of Aug/Sep 2017, she had no fresh insights, but she enjoyed reading it “for pleasure alone, as an older woman. Austen is older and wiser and so are we.” She was surprised how much she enjoyed it and wondered exactly what Benwick’s “improving literature” would be. She “loved the gradual acceleration of pace until the mad dash back to Uppercross and laughed at Austen’s brevity: “They got on fast.” Subtlety be damned, she said. Overall, she found it richer and more complex than she remembered, with a serious, thoughtful undercurrent. Others in the group commented on its quality, on how it feels that Austen really knew what she was doing, and on how Anne Elliot, with her lost love, feels more like Jane Austen, herself, than any of her other heroines.

Our discussion roamed across content, themes and style. An absent member went back to first principles. What is the novel about, she asked. She then suggested personal themes like despair, missed opportunities, second chances, the power of love, and wider, social themes, like a new England, and the rise of meritocracy. Austen promotes in Persuasion a society that values openness, professionalism and mobility.

She then thought about how Austen achieves these themes, and suggested it was mainly through the characters. Anne and Captain Wentworth convey the love story, with Anne’s loss of bloom also conveying a sense of time and lost years. Wentworth, the Crofts and other naval characters represent the new order versus Sir Walter’s old order. Several members discussed the Navy. Through hard work and success in war, her naval people develop real depth of character. They evoke a new professionalism and embody the potential for social mobility. Mrs Croft also suggests a new woman, one who acts as her husband’s collaborator, guide, supporter and confidante.

Our discussions about the Navy ranged across various ideas. We hear different opinions about naval men, from Sir Walter’s appearance- and class-focused approbation through Mrs Clay’s defence to Mrs Croft’s and Anne’s admiration. Jane Austen saw society changing, and that the Navy was playing a role in changing notions about class and ranking.

Related to this was one member’s concern about our current unsettled times with war in the Middle East. Austen, she said, was writing in similarly unsettled times, with the Napoleonic Wars just ending. It was a time of change in England. This member used Chapter 5 to illustrate her thoughts, because here we are presented with a picture of old versus new, a sense that society is going to be different. Austen compares the older Musgroves in their Great-House with the younger ones. We noted her delightful comment about the ancestor portraits, in which she contrasts the chaos of the scene with the elegance of the portraits:

“Oh! could the originals of the portraits against the wainscot, could the gentlemen in brown velvet and the ladies in blue satin have seen what was going on, have been conscious of such an overthrow of all order and neatness! The portraits themselves seemed to be staring in astonishment.”

Many members commented on style. We noticed more descriptions of place – including the landscape, nature and the weather – in this novel, usually conveying some aspect of the theme. For example, the autumnal tone which begins to emerge on the long walk, creates that sense of lost time, of lost years; and Austen draws a strong contrast between the coldness of Kellynch Hall, and the warmth of Lyme (and of the naval people).

One member observed that this novel commences with a strong sense of judgment that we don’t get in the openings of other novels. Sir Walter is thoroughly judged and found wanting in a way that doesn’t happen in most of the other novels’ openings, where social circumstances are established rather than judgements made (albeit in S&S, judgement is passed on John and Fanny Dashwood. Persuasion, however, opens with a strong criticism of aristocracy through satire.

Interestingly, the issue of wit/humour/irony/satire was mentioned by a few members. One shared that literary scholar Rachel Trickett said that wit is “on the whole” absent from the novel, while a new member quoted a critic who suggested that satire was milder in this novel. There is humour here, too, said this member, particularly in Mary, who is described at one point as being in a “comfortable state of imaginary agitation”!

Another member commenting on the opening argued that Persuasion doesn’t have a memorable opening sentence like many of the novels, but there is still much subtlety and meaning in the language. Minor characters, like Charles Hayter, who “quit the field”, and Mr Shepherd, reveal themselves through Austen’s use of irony (and its subliminal messages).

Moving more onto content, but still with an eye on the language, a member talked about how commonsense and a good heart underpin the novel. Anne’s mother, Lady Elliot, is described as “sensible and amiable” (Ch 1). Words like “violent” and “violence” which appear several times in P&P do not appear in Persuasion.

The novel is an introspective, contemplative story of loss and second chances. Much (though not all) of the novel is seen through Anne’s eyes. Anne’s thoughts on hearing Mary’s report of Wentworth’s opinion of her is an example:

“Altered beyond his knowledge!” Anne fully submitted, in silent, deep mortification. (Ch. 7)

She’s fading away, minding children, playing the piano.

Of course, we all love our Austen aphorisms, and one member couldn’t resist sharing Mr Shepherd’s argument when promoting the Crofts as tenants to Sir Walter

“A lady, without a family, was the very best preserver of furniture in the world.” (Ch. 3)

Some members looked at specific issues or questions. One asked: Was Captain Wentworth really out of love with Anne at the beginning of the novel? At the beginning of the novel we see everything through Anne’s eyes, and she believes he is angry and will never be able to love her again. However, we readers see what Captain Wentworth does, and through Volume 1 there are several instances where he quietly shows real care for her, suggesting he is still enchanted by Anne, whether consciously or unconsciously!

Another member had noticed two things regarding the Baronetage (Ch 1) she’d not seen before. One is a reference to a “still-born son” born 2 years after Anne. This made her think of structural parallels in the novel, such as dead sons (this one, and the Musgroves’ son at war), and falls (Mary Musgrove’s young son, and later Louisa in Lyme).

The other point she’d not seen before was the reference to “all the Marys and Elizabeths they [the Elliots] had married”. In other words, Anne does not seem to have been named for anyone important in the family, making it another way in which Austen subtly differentiates, and isolates, Anne from her sisters. Who was Anne named for then? AlwaysAusten‘s blogger suggests that Anne may have bee named after her godmother Lady Russell, whose first name is never revealed in the novel.

Several members commented on Austen’s greater use of description of appearance in this novel. Again, we saw this supporting themes and ideas. For example, Anne’s fading bloom (physical) mirrors her fading importance in the family (social). One member wondered whether it might also have been due to Austen’s increasing age making her more conscious of looks and its loss, but also recognised that Austen does use appearance to support her themes. For example, Sir Walter’s good looks are very much linked to his personal vanity and his tendency to criticise other people’s appearances:

He had been remarkably handsome in his youth; and, at fifty four, was still a very fine man. Few women could think more of their personal appearance than he did; … (Austen on Sir Walter, Ch. 1)

‘A few years before, Anne Elliot had been a very pretty girl, but her bloom had vanished early; and, as even at its height, her father had found so little to admire in her, (so totally different were her delicate features and mild dark eyes from his own); there there could be nothing in them now that she was faded and thin, to excite his esteem.’ (Sir Walter on Anne, Ch. 1)

‘It sometimes happens, that a woman is handsomer at twenty-nine than she was ten years before; and, generally speaking, if there has been either ill-health nor anxiety, it is a time of life at which scarcely any harm is lost. It was so with Elizabeth, still the same handsome Miss Elliot that she had begun to be thirteen years ago; and Sir Walter might be excused, therefore, in forgetting her age, or, at least, be deemed only half a fool, for thinking himself and Elizabeth as blooming as ever, amidst the wreck of the good looks of everyone else; for he could plainly see how how old the rest of his family and acquaintance were growing … (Ch. 1)

Appearance is discussed or described frequently throughout Volume 1: Sir Walter’s objections to naval men is based largely on their appearance; Elizabeth is unconcerned about the risk of Sir Walter falling for Mrs Clay because she was not beautiful enough to attract her father (“That tooth of her’s! and those freckles! …”, Ch. 5); and of course Anne, according to her sister Mary, is found wanting in Captain Wentworth’s eyes (“You are so altered that he would not have known you again.” Ch. 7). Anne, on the other hand, thinks that “the years which had destroyed her youth and bloom had only given him a more glowing, manly, open look, in no respect lessening his person advantage”. (Ch. 7)

Austen describes many other characters. We are told that Henrietta and Louisa Musgrave’s “faces were rather pretty” (Ch. 5), and describes Mrs Croft in some detail:

Mrs Croft, though neither tall nor fat, had a squareness, uprightness and vigour of form, which gave importance to her person. She had bright dark eyes, good teeth, and altogether an agreeable face, though her reddened and weather-beaten complexion, the consequence of her having been almost as much at sea as her husband, made hers seem to have lived some years longer in the world than her real eight and thirty. (Ch. 6)

She also describes Wentworth’s naval friends in Ch. 11. These characters are admired (with “pleasing” and “agreeable” faces), despite showing some of the cares of life.

Overall, we felt that this novel contains many differences from Austen’s previous ones, including the increased use of description, the large number of characters, and that so much happens (including accidents, and deaths – Captain Benwick’s Fanny, Mr Elliot’s wife, Dick Musgrove).

During the ensuing discussion, we talked about the issue of “persuasion” which no-one had mentioned in their individual reflections. We found many examples of people being – or not being – persuaded, from references to Anne’s being influenced by Lady Russell to not marry both Frederick Wentworth and Charles Musgrove to Louisa’s determination not to be persuaded by others and Captain Wentworth’s apparent approval of her firmness at the end of the volume. We will take this up again in Volume 2!

Sources

Rachel Trickett, “Jane Austen’s Comedy and the Nineteenth Century” in B.C. Southam, Critical essays on Jane Austen, 1968  


November 2025 meeting: Female isolation in Jane Austen’s novels

November 18, 2025

This month’s topic was inspired by a blog post in which the blogger stated they didn’t like Emma. One of our members responded in defence of Emma, using some of the points we’ve discussed in past JASACT meetings concerning Emma’s isolation – that she’s never left the village, never seen the sea, never been to London. It dawned on our member that isolation in Austen’s women could be a good JASACT meeting topic. Hence this meeting …

The three most obvious isolated heroines are Fanny, Emma and Anne, but arguments can be made for all the heroines, not to mention other female characters, so our meeting was wide-ranging.

We looked at dictionary definitions of “isolation” but found them wanting. Broadly, when applied to people, it involves being separated from others or placed apart. However, we were interested in more nuanced interpretations, looking at, in various degrees and combinations, the physical, social, intellectual, psychological, emotional, financial, and/or moral isolation and marginalisation experienced by Austen’s women.

One member suggested that the answer to female isolation was marriage. It was accepted as the principal role for a female, with her highest aspiration being running a home and raising a family. Austen played by society’s rules and married her females off rather than risk her books not selling! 

On women’s experience of isolation

Financial isolation was referenced many times during the discussion. To be an old spinster and thus poor and scorned was a dreadful fate, one rarely encountered in Austen’s novels. It was a subject too sad to sell books, said our remote member. Sir Walter Elliot’s condemnation of Mrs. Smith was the attitude of the period. But, while marriage might result in financial security and respectability, it could also, as in the case of Charlotte Lucas, result in intellectual isolation.

One member was particularly interested in women’s financial isolation, in their lack of financial control over their lives. How did they cope in their society? Were they isolated, or just clever in operating within the constraints of their times. We have discussed before that most women needed to marry, needed to make a good marriage, and that in some cases this marriage was important for the whole family. Many men were absent at various wars during this time, which made partners thinner on the ground.

Emma was one of the few characters who had financial power. Charlotte Lucas on the other hand had little money, so few options:

Without thinking highly either of men or of matrimony, marriage had always been her object; it was the only honourable provision for well-educated young women of small fortune, and however uncertain of giving happiness, must be their pleasantest preservative from want. This preservative she had now obtained; and at the age of twenty-seven, without having ever been handsome, she felt all the good luck of it. (P&P, Ch. 22)

Big families were seen as positive. The Morlands’ family of ten was seen as “a fine family”.

Financial isolation can be closely aligned to social isolation. Jane Fairfax is socially isolated, albeit in a loving environment, but well-to-do-women, while not as free to go out and about as modern women do, had busy lives. They learnt to operate within the structure of their time, and it wasn’t necessarily all bad, said one member. Another member spoke of Emma listing her own “great many independent resources” that will occupy her “active busy mind” in her unmarried old age (Ch. 10), while Mrs Elton brags of being “blessed with so many resources” within herself that she was quite independent of the world (Ch. 32). Our member suggested that this concept of women having their own resources is the closest Austen approaches to acknowledging the female isolation. 

Whatever their situation, most of the women accepted the status quo, but Austen does allow many of her heroines to be discriminating in their choice of husbands. Anne Elliot, Fanny Price, Elinor Dashwood and Eleanor Tilney all glimpsed apparently unattainable partners who would have satisfied their hopes of intellectual and emotional happiness, but for much of their novels are yearning, discerning and isolated,  until rescued by marriage. 

One character, however, is not no resourceful or accepting of the status quo, Mary Musgrove, who whinges about being isolated:  

She had no resources for solitude; and inheriting a considerable share of the Elliot self-importance, was very prone to add to every other distress that of fancying herself neglected and ill-used. (Ch. 5)

She complains that all will be “happy at Bath” while she is stuck at Uppercorss, while Anne has developed coping resources. She knows, for example, that when she plays the piano she is “giving pleasure only to herself”. (Both Ch. 6)

Physical isolation was experienced by many characters, sometimes symbolising other forms of isolation too. Fanny is a case in point. Her physical isolation in the East Wing, means she is cold, but it also symbolises her social isolation. Many characters experienced physical isolation, sometimes briefly, some longer term, such as Mrs Smith (in Persuasion) whose physical isolation, like Fanny’s, also reflects her social isolation; Catherine Morland at Northanger Abbey; Charlotte who marries Mr Collins because she didn’t have the luxury of choice; Mrs Smith restricted to her chambers for health reasons.

In general, women – regardless of their situation – were isolated. They could not go out when they wanted. However, one member, inspired by a recent article by Nada Saadaoui in The Conversation, about place and landscape in the novels, offered a different perspective. Saadaoui’s discussion includes identifying the perils and negative aspects of being out and about, such as Lydia’s experience in Brighton, Catherine’s “unpreparedness for the subtler hazards of urban sociability: flattery, pretence and manipulation”, and Mrs Price’s recognition of the dangers of Portsmouth. Our member therefore suggested that, given the difficulties awaiting those who go out, isolation could be a protection. Marianne’s life is threatened after the shock she receives in London, and Maria Betram’s time in London ends in disaster for her. Isolation can offer physical and reputational protection.

But, as one member offered, MP offers one of the bleakest sentences in Austen, and it is about isolation:

It ended in Mrs. Norris’s resolving to quit Mansfield and devote herself to her unfortunate Maria, and in an establishment being formed for them in another country, remote and private, where, shut up together with little society, on one side no affection, on the other no judgment, it may be reasonably supposed that their tempers became their mutual punishment. (MP, Ch. 48)

Meanwhile, another member also suggested that physical isolation was not necessarily a bad thing. We see sisters supporting each other in isolated places, like the Dashwood girls. Jane Fairfax is protected by her poor aunt and grandmother. Emma’s wealth isolates her, but the country is safe compared to cities. These women needed, and drew on, solidarity and support wherever they were.

Intellectual and/or emotional isolation was another common theme in our discussion, particularly for Anne Elliot, Fanny, Jane Fairfax, Elinor Dashwood, and even Elizabeth Bennet. Fanny, when she arrives at Mansfield Park feels her isolation:

Fanny, whether near or from her cousins, whether in the schoolroom, the drawing–room, or the shrubbery, was equally forlorn, finding something to fear in every person and place. (MP, Ch. 2)

One member found critics talking about the rich inner lives of Austen’s isolated heroines: John Wiltshire and Marilyn Butler discuss Anne Elliot (“her word had no weight … she was only Anne”) and Fanny Price. Butler writes that Anne has “an inner life that is rich and feeling, an outer environment that is barren” (p. 283). This made her wonder whether isolation may not always be negative. Can it favour the development of a rich inner life, or produce resilience and moral integrity, as it seems to in these characters?

Other members pointed to the negative impact of isolation on characters like Elinor Dashwood and Anne Elliot who regulate their behaviours and suppress their own emotions and needs in the service of others. They sacrifice their own well-being in order to fulfill familial and social roles. Anne Elliot, notably however, does find some intellectual companionship with Captain Benwick.

A little case study

A different sort of isolation – encompassing multiple types – is experienced by Anne de Burgh. We know very little about her. The daughter of the wealthy Lady Catherine, she is privileged and surrounded by people, but seems an isolated character. Her mother is a cold and unpleasant woman, who shows her no affection, and, she seems to have no friends. Closest to her, perhaps, is her governess, Mrs Jenkinson, who does show some concern for her. 

She appears in the chapters where Elizabeth, Sir William and Maria Lucas visit Mr and Mr Collins. It seems she occasionally stops by the Collins house in her carriage and talks to Mr and Mrs Collins but never comes into the parsonage. She is present at Lady Catherine’s dinners, where her mother speaks somewhat disparagingly of her, suggesting “if her health had allowed her to play” the piano, she would probably “have performed delightfully”. She plays cards after dinner, but is never given any direct speech. There is no evidence of her doing anything else. Both Maria Lucas and Elizabeth notice her lack of good health when she drops by in her carriage, with Elizabeth being characteristically forthright:

‘I like her appearance … She looks sickly and cross. – Yes, she will do for him very well. She will make him a very proper wife.’ (Ch. 28)

Elizabeth, later sees Anne as “pale and sickly”, with features, that are “not plain [but] insignificant”, and notes that she speaks “very little, except in a low voice, to Mrs Jenkinson” (Ch. 29). At dinner, Anne, seated next to Elizabeth, “said not a word to her all dinner time. Mrs Jenkinson was chiefly employed in watching how little Miss de Bourgh ate, pressing her to try some other dish, and fearing she were indisposed” (Ch. 29).

Anne’s future, we know, was supposedly settled, with Lady Catherine having announced earlier that she and her sister, Lady Anne Darcy, had long ago agreed that Anne and her cousin, Fitzwilliam Darcy, should marry. What the cousins themseles felt was evidently quite irrelevant. This would be a marriage of status and wealth. But, was it likely to occur? There is no evidence that Darcy speaks to Anne at all, or even that Colonel Fitzwilliam, the cousin of both Anne and Darcy, speaks to her (despite his having much better manners than Darcy). Both are more interested in Elizabeth. Does Anne notice this? Does she care? Does she resent her overbearing mother who has decided on her future? Anne remains silent and largely unknown. Will she ever rebel?

This member was also intrigued by Anne’s eating so little at dinner. Did she have some form of eating disorder? Was it her only way of exerting some form of control over her own life? Our member searched for Jane Austen and anorexia and, sure enough, found a recent Master’s thesis dated January 2025. Its abstract explains the central premise as suggesting

that the gender inequality faithfully depicted in Austen’s novels, by which women are submitted to domesticity, marriage and the pursuit of beauty, prompts female characters to engage in disordered conducts. Considering anorexia nervosa a double-edged conduct that emerges as a by-product of women’s conflict between duty and desire, findings show that the characters of Marianne Dashwood and Anne De Bourgh succumb to eating disorders as a means to escape patriarchal oppression, starvation thus becoming a metaphor for women’s hunger for freedom and appetite for self-determination.

This provided food (excuse the pun) for thought, including what we think of such analyses.

So …

We ended up with some opposing ideas. Was isolation necessarily a bad thing? Did it provide for personal well-being and safety? And, did it offer opportunities for the development of characters’ inner selves, moral integrity, resilience? On the other hand, what pain did many of our heroines suffer through their emotional and intellectual isolation?

Finally, we all enjoyed our remote member’s comment that “the women we have most sympathy for are invariably superior creatures – I see them as swans on the duck pond of life”. 

Sources

Marilyn Butler, Jane Austen and the war of ideas, 1975
Grace Cazzaniga, “Elinor and Anne:  Emotional Isolation, Family, and Society in Sense and Sensibility and Persuasion, Vassar College student thesis, 2023
Maria Port i Puig, Jane Austen and anorexia nervosa: An analysis of victuals as representative of patriarchal structures in Sense and Sensibility and Pride and Prejudice, Universitat Oberta de Catalunya. 2025
Nada Saadaoui, “How Jane Austen’s landscapes mapped women’s lives“, in The Conversation, 21 October 2025
John Wiltshire, Jane Austen and the body, 1992


October 2025 meeting: Jane Austen and France

November 1, 2025

There were basically two approaches to this topic, the members who investigated whether Jane Ausetn read or spoke French and the members who considered the impact of the Napoleonic wars on Austen and her writing. England was at war with France for the whole of her adult life. As one member commented, Austen was war-conditioned.

Did Austen read French literature?

One member read Jane Austen and her Predecessors, by Frank W Bradbrook. He refers to Dr Chapman who noted after the arrival of cousin Eliza in 1786, references to several novels, including Mme de Stael’s Corinne and Mme de Sevigne’s Lettres.

Bradbrook comments that it is strange that there are no references to Rousseau, because Austen must surely have read La Nouvelle Heloise, a death of a governess (‘rather a friend than a governess’) which reminds him of the relationship between Emma and Miss Taylor. Then in Persuasion, there is a point in the story where Anne possibly reflects the sentiments of Rousseau’s Julie. Persuasion also contains a reference to Candide: Sir Walter Elliot’s remarks on Admiral Baldwin’s lack of attention to his personal appearance – “it is a pity they are not knocked on the head at once” – appears in Candide as “In this country it is good from time to time to kill an admiral to encourage the others”.

Lady Susan may have been drawn from French fiction and possibly Mary Crawford too. Bradbrook discusses parallels between Mansfield Park and Les Liaisons Dangereuses by Choderlos de Laclos, which was published in 1782, possibly bought by Eliza.

Several members referred to Jane Austen: The French Connection, by Joan Austen-Leigh, the great granddaughter of James Austen-Leigh and one of JASNA’s founders. She asks ‘How well did Jane Austen speak French?’, because in Austen’s lifetime most educated English people studied French as a matter of course.

There are various references to this in her novels.

  • Catherine Morland learned French from her mother
  • Maria and Julia Bertram are astounded that Fanny had never learnt French
  • Miss Bingley in her famous list about an accomplished woman cites her thorough knowledge of “the modern languages”
  • Lady Susan declares that to be “Mistress of French, Italian, German, Music … will gain a woman some applause, but will not add one lover to her list”.

Evidence suggests Jane read French from an early age.

  • She was given Fables Choisies in December 1783, perhaps as an 8th birthday present.
  • When she was 12 she was reading L’ami de l’adolescence.
  • In 1800 she writes that she had just finished Les Veillees du Chateau.

In the surviving 161 letters there are 20 French words or phrases. Austen asks “how often do any of us use French in our letters or email?” For Austen-Leigh, Austen’s French phrases seem spontaneous, natural expression.

Some trivia

  • Adieu is used 21 times in the novels, goodbye only twice.
  • Austen mentions France as a country in the novels only three times, all in Northanger Abbey.
  • Austen copied into her music book two songs about Marie Antoinette and the music of the Marseillaise, though she called it the Marseilles March.
  • Austen was obviously fond of her brother Henry’s French servants, Mrs Perigord and her mother Mrs Bigeon as Austen left the latter 50 pounds in her will.
  • The French were among the first to translate Austen’s novels into their language. Raison et Sensibilite was published in Paris in 1815, Le Parc du Mansfield and La Nouvelle Emma in 1816. By 1824 all six novels had been translated into French.

The Napoleonic wars and Austen

Another member referred to another JASNA article, ‘Austen and Empire: A thinking woman’s guide to British imperialism’ by Ruth Perry.

The Napoleonic war first impacted the Austen family with the death of Cassandra’s fiance Thomas Fowle of yellow fever off Santo Domingo in 1797. Perry claims that “The ghost of Thomas Fowle peers through Jane Austen’s novels, the original of all the disappearing suitors”, for example, Edward Ferrars and Bingley. Cassandra’s reaction of “uncommon resolution and propriety … models the qualities of our favourite Austen characters”.

By the time Thomas Fowle died, 80,000 British soldiers had perished in three and a half years of war with France.

Perry argues that England’s colonial war in the Caribbean was “momentous for Jane Austen’s life and as it turns out for posterity” because Fowle’s death and Cassandra’s spinsterhood helped determine Austen’s decision to remain single and to write.

Perry’s long article explores the issues of slavery and abolition, as well as how the war in the Caribbean influenced Austen’s writing in Persuasion, and the characters of Admiral Croft and Captain Wentworth and how their naval careers had led to success and wealth.

Although Sir Walter might complain that the navy was “the means of bringing persons of obscure birth into undue distinction, and raising men to honours which their father and grandfathers never dreamt of …”, Austen links this class mobility in her last novel to greater possibilities for domestic happiness in the creation of new kinds of families. England’s wars of imperialism permits Wentworth to make a fortune sufficient to marry the daughter of an aristocrat.

Another member referred to the chapter, ‘The French Connection’ in Claire Tomalin’s Jane Austen: A Life and that because Jane Austen never travelled to France, all her knowledge came from the family, her cousin Eliza and her naval brothers. Persuasion was in fact the first novel to explore the impact of the war on the navy and the naval officers.

Some more Trivia

  • The Royal Palace at Winchester was used for French prisoners of war.
  • Jane Fairfax’s father died in the war.
  • The original version of Sense and Sensibility had references to France which had to be deleted later because by the time of publication France and Britain were at war.

Sources

Joan Austen-Leigh, “Jane Austen: The French Connection” in Persuasions, No. 20
Frank W Bradbrook, Jane Austen and her Predecessors, Cambridge University Press, 1967, p 120 – 123.
Ruth Perry, “Austen and Empire: A thinking woman’s guide to British imperialism“, in Persuasions, No. 16 (1994)
Claire Tomalin, “The French Connection”, in Claire Tomalin, Jane Austen: A life


September 2025 meeting: Matchmaking in Jane Austen

September 20, 2025

We started by focusing on matchmaking, mostly in terms of specific instances in the novels, but we came to realise that although matchmaking is a specific theme in Emma, it runs through all the novels. This makes sense, given Austen’s overall critiquing of the role of marriage in the Regency era, particularly for women, and her promotion of marriage unions based on real connection and affection, mutual respect, and compatibility of character and intellect, rather than on the manipulations of a matchmaker. Austen explored the impact of social class on marriage prospects, and recognised marriage as balancing social equality and affection.

One member looked specifically at the idea of the “matchmaker” and found that at this time matchmakers were paid in France, where matchmaking evolved through the 19th century from informal family arrangements to a commercialised “marriage market” driven by matrimonial agencies and newspaper advertisements. This more formal, commercial matchmaking tended to ignore feelings, but was, rather, a way of manipulating people into a “good” transaction. In England, paid matchmaking was banned. Instead, it was something undertaken usually by female family members or friends who looked to arrange suitable marriages for the upper and middle classes, and tried to balance affection with practicality and economic alliance. That was the theory, though as Austen showed in practice, this was not always achieved. As one member added, we still matchmake today, but through online services!

Whether formal or informal, however, matchmaking was serious business. Marriage concerned the whole family, its security and wellbeing, particularly that of unmarried sisters and of the mother should she be (or become) widowed. Making a good match could be imperative.

Jane Austen, Emma

Several members chose particular “matchmakers” or novels to talk about, and of course Emma (in Emma) featured more than once. One member noted that both Emma and Mrs Weston engaged in matchmaking. She also commented on Mr Knightley’s awareness of the importance of money and security, and the favourablity of a match between Robert Martin and Harriet. Another member talked of how Emma and Mr Knightley fall in love without matchmaking. Emma learns that it works best when “like” finds “like” whereas formal matchmaking (as Emma tried with Harriet, and as one member’s research found) “blindly joins incompatible objects”. 

Further considering Emma, we discussed Jane Fairfax’s predicament as a woman who was accomplished without the money, while Emma, as Mr Knightley points out to her, is not so accomplished but of course she has the money.

Another member talked of Mrs Bennet as the quintessential family matchmaker, but despite her (and those like her in other novels) best efforts, a lot of young people managed to find matches on their own. Lydia Bennet certainly does, but perhaps not as successfully as others.

Another member suggested that matchmakers came in various shapes. For example, the master of ceremonies who introduces Catherine Morland and Henry Tilney (Northanger Abbey, Chapter 3) in the Lower Rooms could be described as undertaking a type of matchmaking.

Mansfield Park

Mrs Norris, in Mansfield Park, on the other hand, is of the more traditional family member style. She was instrumental in introducing Maria Bertram to Mr Rushworth (and gets, said our member, the prize for most disastrous match).

The winter came and passed … and Mrs. Norris, in promoting gaieties for her nieces, assisting their toilets, displaying their accomplishments, and looking about for their future husbands, had so much to do … (Ch. 4)

Mr Rushwporth was “from the first struck with the beauty of Miss Bertram”, and

Mrs. Norris was most zealous in promoting the match, by every suggestion and contrivance likely to enhance its desirableness to either party (Ch. 4)

It’s not long before the engagement announced, and Sir Thomas approves from the West Indies, asking only that the marriage not take place until his return. Only Edmund has his doubts:

Edmund was the only one of the family who could see a fault in the business; but no representation of his aunt’s could induce him to find Mr. Rushworth a desirable companion. He could allow his sister to be the best judge of her own happiness, but he was not pleased that her happiness should centre in a large income… (Ch 4)

(Interesting word , “business”, here, regarding marriage.)

Chapter 4 is a busy chapter, because it is also here that Mrs Grant does a bit of thinking about matchmaking herself, thinking that Tom Bertram would be a good match for Mary and Louisa for Henry. In other words, these female relations, Mrs Norris and Mrs Grant, are aware of their matchmaker role. Later in our discussion we talked about chaperones also often taking on this role, with Mrs Jennings (in Sense and sensibility) keeping an eye out, while Mrs Allen (in Northanger Abbey) is only interested in her clothes and her friends. She provides no advice or guidance, let alone matchmaking, for Catherine.

Back to MP … Upon Sir Thomas’s return in Volume 2, Mrs Norris finds her judgement being question regarding the theatricals, so she focuses on her big achievement, the engagement:

There she was impregnable. She took to herself all the credit of bringing Mr. Rushworth’s admiration of Maria to any effect. “If I had not been active,” said she, “and made a point of being introduced to his mother, and then prevailed on my sister to pay the first visit, I am as certain as I sit here that nothing would have come of it; for Mr. Rushworth is the sort of amiable modest young man who wants a great deal of encouragement, and there were girls enough on the catch for him if we had been idle. But I left no stone unturned….” (Ch. 20)

Northanger Abbey interested another member, and she started with John Thorpe who does all he can to close off other opportunities for Catherine, and put himself forward:

I am glad you are no enemy to matrimony, however. Did you ever hear the old song ‘Going to One Wedding Brings on Another?’  I say, you will come to Belle’s wedding, I hope.”
“Yes; I have promised your sister to be with her, if possible.”
“And then you know” — twisting himself about and forcing a foolish laugh — “I say, then you know, we may try the truth of this same old song.”
“May we? But I never sing. Well, I wish you a good journey. I dine with Miss Tilney today, and must now be going home.” (CH. 15)

In an attempt to big-note himself, he conveys the critical “information” to General Tilney regarding Catherine’s supposed inheritance, resulting in the General suddenly paying ‘“anxious attention … to general civility”, and his focusing attention – “such solicitous politeness” – on Catherine. Then, just as suddenly he boots her out the door. She has no idea why until Henry explains at the end that

The general had had nothing to accuse her of, nothing to lay to her charge, but her being the involuntary, unconscious object of a deception … (Ch. 30)

Northanger Abbey’s main storyline, suggested our member, is based on a misunderstanding of Catherine’s wealth, compounded by her naiveté.

Not all matchmakers, in fact, argued another member, are female. Austen’s flawed men, such as Sir Thomas Bertram and General Tilney, are driven by financial imperatives to engage in matchmaking, reflecting their role (at the time) of ensuring their family’s ongoing security. Austen critiques this too. Both men indirectly and directly interfere in courtship matters, and both (for different reasons) send young women away as part of their matchmaking endeavours.

Sir Thomas does want what’s best for his children. He had been concerned about the possibility of an attraction developing between little Fanny and his sons when she first arrives but Mrs Norris talks him out of this. He gives Maria a chance to pull out of her engagement, but is relieved when she goes ahead. He does his best to encourage if not force Fanny to marry Henry Crawford, believing it’s right for her and her family. He acts as matchmaker driven by financial and social considerations. Mansfield Park, argued this member, is partly about the education of Sir Thomas. He understands something about human nature, but he completely misreads Fanny, and her moral compass.

General Tilney also acts as a matchmaker driven by mercenary motives. He wants a marriage between Catherine Morland and his son Henry because he believes she is wealthy, and then treats her shockingly when he discovers the truth. He is tyrannical and manipulative, seeing marriage as a financial transaction rather than something based on genuine affection. Kelly Coyne explores the many uses of the word interest (and its derivatives) – which has a significant financial meaning – in the novel. She concludes that Northanger Abbey “relays Austen’s serious concerns about the financial appraisal that occurs during courtship and the sinister obscurity of that appraisal’s execution.”

We all came away with some new ways of looking at and understanding matchmaking in Austen’s times, of the direct and indirect ways in which it operated in those times, and of her use of these to explore her ideas about what makes a good marriage.

Sources:

Mostly we focused on the novels themselves, but a couple of other sources were referenced.


August 2025 meeting: What is Jane Austen’s legacy?

August 23, 2025

Given this year celebrates the 250th anniversary of Jane Austen’s birth we decided it was time we discussed her legacy – and so that was our August meeting topic.

We all agreed that her literary legacy is the modern novel as well as the extraordinary characters she created. Harold Bloom, in his foreword to A Truth Universally Acknowledged: 33 reasons why we can’t stop reading Jane Austen, edited by Susannah Carson, explains,

“Some literary works are mortal; Jane Austen’s are immortal… What makes this so? Austen’s work possesses an uncanniness, a certain mode of originality. She created personality, character and cognition; she brought into being new modes of consciousness. Like Shakespeare, Austen invented us … Personality is Austen’s greatest originality and the cause of her perpetual pervasiveness … After Shakespeare, no writer in the language does so well as Austen as giving us figures, central and peripheral, utterly consistent in her (or his) own mode of speech and consciousness.”

Susannah Fullerton echoes this in an article published in The Canberra Times.

“For me, the major reason I go back to her books again and again is her phenomenal understanding of what makes people tick, of human nature. And that hasn’t changed in the more than 200 years since she published her books. I think everybody knows characters like the ones Jane Ausetn created. You know, hypochondriac or stingy characters, or people who talk too much like Miss Bates. (Emma).”

While Pamela Whalan in the same article adds

“Jane Austen had a wonderful power of observation . . she understood how people thought, behaved, needed, wanted. She was a realist and an optimist but not a romantic. Her characters are based on normal people – people you could recognise as you go about your daily routine”.

We also discussed how Austen’s work can cross cultures with two members reflecting on Jane Austen’s influence in modern day Pakistan. One member introduced the novel Unmarriageable by Soniah Kamal and an anthology titled, Austenistan. Edited by Laleen Sukhera, it contains short stories set in Pakistan inspired by Austen’s novels, such as “The Fabulous Banker Boys” in which Darcy and Bingley are re-imagined as bankers working in Dubai.

Sukhera started the Jane Austen Appreciation Society in 2015 in Islamabad. It evolved into JASP, with branches now in Lahore and Karachi, and London. The early meetings were high teas, dress-ups and discussions. For example, on parallels between Elizabeth and Margaret as portrayed in The Crown, and Elinor and Marianne in Sense and sensibility. Our member said that JASP has many members and followers, and that there is a group called MENAP (Jane Austen in the Middle East, North Africa and Pakistan) on Instagram, but as there doesn’t appear to be a website, it’s difficult to get any idea of current activities.

Based on comments by Sukhera and others, it appears that many educated Pakistani women who work in professional jobs (teachers, journalists, lawyers, bankers etc) are privileged but still see Pakistan as a patriarchal society where women have fewer rights and opportunities than men, where there is still considerable pressure for women to marry, not necessarily for love, but for money, status etc, leading to unhappy marriages and divorce. Many noticed the parallels between contemporary Pakistan and Regency England.

Another member had found an article by Ali Naushahi, the director of the BBC series Jane Austen: Rise of a Genius, which has recently been shown on the ABC, entitled As a Muslim girl in Bradford, I saw my story in Jane Austen’s novels. She writes,

“Devouring Austen’s work as a teenager I appreciated not just the storytelling but the survival tactics – strategies women used to maintain their dignity in a world that offered them very little agency. Reading those novels, it wasn’t the ballrooms and the bonnets that spoke to me but the stakes. They captured the emotional cost of a world in which women had limited options and where marriage was more often an economic contract than a love story. This was something I had seen first-hand in many of the arranged marriages of the women around me. Austen taught me that the domestic sphere could be radical. Her characters weren’t obvious revolutionaries, but women who, through wit, tenacity and endurance reshaped their own lives. Austen’s power, quiet but enduring, transcends time and cultural identity. Marking her 250th birthday isn’t just about remembering a literary icon, but about recognising that across the centuries, some battles remain the same.”

Another member talked about how Austen highlights the importance of money and social status, calling her a born “microeconomist” and referencing Chapter 29 in Jane Austen in Context, edited by Janet Todd, Money by Edward Copeland. Money in Jane Austen’s novels has an uncanny way of seeming so much like our own that we run the serious mistake of thinking that it is. Everything in the Austen novels seems to add up at the cash register in the usual way . . . so familiar we think we are in the same world, but we are not. Rather, Copeland argues that the economy of the time was in a state of rapid and unsettling transition with inflation and periods of economic depression. In this unstable economy, marriage, Austen’s narrative mainstay, was a legitimate and common means of gaining access to all important capital.

Finally we compiled a list of Austen’s legacy in the modern world.

  • The books, academic studies, biographies etc.
  • The Jane Austen societies, like JASA: There are 81 groups in the US alone
  • Conferences and festivals
  • A fascination with the Regency era, the manners, the fashion, the balls, etc
  • TV and film adaptations: It could be argued that the 1995 Pride and Prejudice led to Austenmania.
  • The cult of Mr Dracy
  • The fan fiction creating sequels and prequels.
  • The merchandise and memorabilia.
  • Tours in Hampshire, London, Bath and their economic benefits.

Sources

Susannah Carson, A truth universally acknowledged: 33 reasons why we can’t stop reading Jane Austen, Penguin, 2009

Edward Copeland, “Money” in Jane Austen in context (ed. Janet Todd), Cambridge University Press, 2005

Christina Henderson Harner, “A Pakistani Jane Austen: Destabiliseing Patriarchal and Post-Colonial Hierarchies in Soniah Kamal’s Transcultural Price and Prejudice”, JASNA Persuasions online, 41 (2), Summer 2021

Soniah Kamal, Unmarriageable, Pride and Prejudice in Pakistan, Allison and Busby, 2019

Ali Naushahi, “As a Muslim girl in Bradford, I saw my story in Jane Austen’s novels“, The Guardian, 30 May 2025

Laleen Sukhera (ed), Austenistan, Bloomsbury, 2017 (Preview of Austenistan)


July 2025 meeting: Jane Austen’s Letters (48-96)

July 21, 2025

Continuing our second run-through of Jane Austen’s letters that we started in October last year, we looked this month at Letters 48 to 96, written between 1806 to end of 1813.

This was an eventful period for Austen. At the start, she, her mother and sister were essentially homeless – that is, they had somewhere to live but had no place to call home. In late 1808, Austen’s sister-in-law Elizabeth died after her 11th childbirth, and by 1809, Jane, Cassandra and their mother had moved into Chawton, which was Austen’s home for the rest of her life. Before this move, but perhaps with things appearing settled, Austen wrote her “MAD” letter (68D) to a publisher expressing frustration at their non-publication of Susan (later Northanger Abbey), to no avail. Once at Chawton, she worked on her novels. Sense and sensibility and Pride and prejudice were published, and she completed Mansfield Park. Her letters do mention these, but we would love her to have written more about her writing – anything and everything!

Discussion

Our first time reader of the letters was not present for this meeting, which is a shame. For the rest of us, we were surprised about how bothered we were this time around by all the detail about people, many of whom we are not seriously interested in. However, we did glean things that interested us, despite having read the letters before.

In other words, there are many reasons for reading the letters. They provide insights into her life (making them a major source for the many biographies written about her) and into the Regency era. Chapman, who edited an early edition of her letters, writes in his Introduction that:

Read with attention, they yield a picture of the life of the upper middle class of that time which is surely without rival …

Besides these obvious insights, we also get a sense of her personality, her reading preferences, her sense of humour, her writing style and her awareness of writing and language. For example, she writes, tongue-in-cheek about being exposed to her young niece Fanny’s “discerning Criticism”:

I begin already to weigh my words & sentences more than I did, & am looking about for a sentiment, an illustration or a metaphor in every corner of the room. (Letter 66)

To quote Chapman, “read with attention”, we can glean from her letters what she thinks about people, character and human behaviour. However, with letters missing and the family’s understandable but nonetheless distorted memoirs, our gleanings or thoughts can only ever be tentative.

So, what did we glean this time around? One member read the sections in David Nokes’ biography that cover the period of these letters and found something interesting concerning the oft-discussed issue that there’s little evidence Austen wrote much fiction, during this period, compared with before her father’s death. Popular theories about this include grief and depression over her father’s death and her homelessness. Nokes, however, suggests there could be other reasons, such as, she had things to do, people to meet. It was an active time.

As a couple of members discussed, this active time included her stay in London with brother Henry (letters 70-72, April 1811). In these letters, she talks about going to plays, shopping, visiting museums and galleries. Again, with “real attention” we come to understand her a little more. For example, on visiting the Liverpool Museum and British Gallery, she writes:

I had some amusement at each, tho’ my preference for Men & Women always inclines me to attend more to the company than the sight. (Letter 70)

Surely the words of a born author! She talks about shopping, including spending Cassandra’s money and undertaking commissions for people. She talks about parties, including one with sister-in-law Eliza de Feuillide’s friends:

It will be amusing to see the ways of a French circle. (Letter 70)

In Letter 71, she describes another gathering with Eliza’s French friends and acquaintances:

Monsieur, the old Count, is a very fine-looking man, with quiet manners, good enough for an Englishman, and, I believe, is a man of great information and taste. He has some fine paintings, which delighted Henry as much as the son’s music gratified Eliza … If he would but speak English, I would take to him.

We found new words and expressions, with this one from London intriguing us: “by the look of things this morning I suspect the weather is rising into the balsamic Northeast” (Letter 72). “Balsamic” in this context sent us to our dictionaries. It comes from the Latin balsamum and means “balsam-like”, in the sense of “restorative” or “curative” or “soothing” (like “balm”.)

Still in London, we find Austen working on the proofs for Sense and sensibility. She replies to Cassandra’s enquiries that

“I am never too busy to think of S&S. I can no more forget it than a mother can forget her sucking child; & I am much obliged to you for your inquiries. I have had two sheets to correct … ” (Letter 71).

Will it be out in June? (It was published in October.)

An issue that threads through the letters concerns women – single women, older women, women having babies, and so on. For example, she mentions travel more than once, something a few members commented on this time round. Our remote member noted “how sadly reliant she, Cassandra and Martha were on her brothers for transport. Respectable women did not travel by public coach and if lacking the money for hiring chaises their lives had to be planned around the movements of male family members. The extent to which this restricted Jane Austen is sad but she doesn’t allow herself to openly complain”.

From London (Letter 70) she writes of her return trip, saying that if brother James’ “plan alters, I can take care of myself”. In her blog, Ellen Moody suggests that it “seems men use travel etiquette to control the women”. She quotes Austen saying at one point that “Edw & Henry have started a difficulty respecting our Journey …” (Letter 65) but Austen says they won’t be put off!

On a different travel issue – if we can call it that – Austen writes to her naval brother Francis (Letter 86) telling him she has “something [another book] in hand” and asking whether he would mind her mentioning “the Elephant … and two or three other of your old ships”.

One member compiled a list of the books Austen mentions reading in these letters. Indeed, our remote member commented that while in previous reads of the letters, she was most interested in the astounding number of people Austen knew but this time she noticed her reading list and “voracious appetite for books”. Austen and her those around her, wrote our correspondent, “consumed not only novels but biographies, poetry, letters, travel, plays and soldier’s campaign memoirs. The local lending libraries evidently carried a much wider range than I had realised and she could be said to have self educated”. 

Meanwhile, our list-making member noted that between Letters 78 and 88 Austen doesn’t mention other books because, presumably, she was working on her own. Interestingly, in Letter 78 (January 1813) she mentions reading Thomas Clarkson’s 1808 book History of the abolition of the slave trade. This was when she was writing Mansfield Park.

Another member focused on what struck her as different this read, and found some new things of interest, one being Austen’s response to the money she made. In Letter 86, Austen writes that every copy of Sense and sensibility had been sold and brought her £140, which made her “long for more.” She also writes that she was “read and admired in Ireland, too”. 

Members noted that these letters cover a wide range of topics, including descriptions of moving house, purchasing a dinner set for Chawton, the high level of social activity, and the severity of winter. Members were interested in her visits to museums and galleries in London, with our remote member noting Austen mentioning seeing works by Glover (John Glover, 1767 – 1849, who emigrated to Tasmania in 1831). We also noted how some of her language is still used today, like “quite the dregs of the family” and “we are all dog-tired”.

While most of the letters were written to sister Cassandra, there are letters to others. In 1813, she writes, for example, to brother Frank in Sweden, and says:

I have a great respect for former Sweden. So zealous as it was for Protestantism! [sic ] – And I have always fancied it more like England than many Countries; – and according to the Map, many names have a strong resemblance to the English. (Letter 86)

This, together with various references in the letters to other countries, got us thinking about Austen and nationalism. A future meeting topic, we think! Austen also mentions facial pain (Letters 87 and 89, September 1813) to Cassandra.

Of course, we looked for inspirations for her characters, and found many. In Letter 51, Austen mentions a will in which all is left to one child in a family. She comments that “such ill-gotten wealth can never prosper.” Inspiration for John and Fanny Dashwood perhaps?

Another must surely be behind Miss Bates and the Box Hill picnic scene:

Miss Milles was queer as usual and provided us with plenty to laugh at. She undertook in three words to give us the history of Mrs Scudamore’s reconciliation, & then talked on about it for half an hour, using such odd expressions & so foolishly minute that I could hardly keep my countenance. (Letter 53)

Ellen Moody mentions Austen’s references to Martha, and her running after a man. Moody fears that Nancy Steele is in part, at least, a satire on Martha. She says that Austen was “hurt and offended that Martha was not satisfied with her” and suggests these feelings fuelled Austen’s “characters who chase men no matter who or what”. Such women pepper the letters, as well as the novels.

On member, short on time, decided to look for some quotable quotes, and of course it wasn’t hard. For example, she found:

“the Rich are always respectable … ” (Letter 53)
“nobody ever feels or acts, suffers or enjoys, as one expects.” (Letter 55)
“I consider everybody is having a right to marry once in their lives for love, if they can …” (Letter 63)

We will continue our reading of the letters, but interspersed with other meetings …

Sources

RW Chapman, “Introduction to the First Edition (1932)” in Deirdre Le Faye, Jane Austen’s letters
Deirdre Le Faye, Jane Austen’s letters (New ed, 1995)
Ellen Moody, Reveries Under the Sign of Austen, Two blog (several posts)
David Nokes, Jane Austen: A life


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